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Electro DGX
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posted September 02, 2016 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are your thoughts on this aspect. I've read many interpretations and threads on it, but I would like to hear other's thoughts on it so I can make judgements based on that. I've already tried mentally analyzing the **** out of it myself lol

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posted September 02, 2016 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Generally, from what I've seen, their emotions can be a tidal wave. It's hard to sway them or make them feel differently once they're feeling something (deep sadness, ecstatic, raged). You just have to let it happen and it will subside naturally when they're ready.

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posted September 02, 2016 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Generally, from what I've seen, their emotions can be a tidal wave. It's hard to sway them or make them feel differently once they're feeling something (deep sadness, ecstatic, raged). You just have to let it happen and it will subside naturally when they're ready.

That is very true. It's something I've noticed myself actually; if I'm very upset or angry, I can't typically fight it because it causes me much more frustration, nor do I want to. I'll go through it and when it's over then I'm feeling better and more clear-headed.

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posted September 02, 2016 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for strawberryaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect with Moon in Pisces and I feel emotions veeery strongly, also my moods change quite frequently, I feel either sad or happy, there is no in between (maybe thats because my sun and moon is in dualistic signs).

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posted September 02, 2016 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Moon sq Pluto. Pluto is also sq Sun and Mercury.

What's funny is that I RIGHT NOW, 5 min before typing this, wondered what the heck has gotten me so aggressive :-/ I know Kannon will say it's tPluto messing with all my Cardinal planets and perhaps he's right.

Anyway, I am super intense and I have yet to meet another human that can follow me to the very bottom, or heights! I am my own cocaine receptacle that will just infuse whatever emotion I am feeling at the moment.
I literally scare the shi* out of some :-/

The only thing positive in this, for ME, is that I am not afraid of the "dark side" and I am not afraid of hitting rock bottom! Actually, I can take myself there on own accord (burning bridges or just simply rocking the boat one too many times) just so that I can go through a metamorphosis of sorts. I find it invigorating to embrace what others try to avoid. I am not afraid of depression. I'll make myself even more depressed by watching sad movies or listening to sad music. I just let myself dwell until I am good and ready to move on.

It sounds like I am a complete nut but it's not that "in your face". To me it feels like riding a long tidal wave where I completely relax, without fear.

I never hide my feelings. I don't pretend to be some type of EMO person. I don't like when people hide their true selves. Reality can be ugly and I prefer to know it right now as opposed to later..

I should probably mention that my moon gets hit from many sides. Opposite Sun, Venus, Mercury, Saturn.....semi-square Uranus...parallel Neptune....and square Pluto.

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quote:
Originally posted by Electro DGX:
What are your thoughts on this aspect. I've read many interpretations and threads on it, but I would like to hear other's thoughts on it so I can make judgements based on that. I've already tried mentally analyzing the **** out of it myself lol


Hi! I love this aspect. I have it. My emotions are very intense, so if I'm just annoyed I feel it through and through and I have to control it from rising to anger. When I like someone I LOVE them and they're the greatest! When I've been disappointed, they're the worst and I have no empathy for anything I do to them (I don't actively instigate anything though and I think this is the "control" part of the aspect coming out.) I oscillate between feeling too much and being indifferent, which is different than "not wanting to feel at all".

I had a up and down relationship with my mom, violent at times (I have the opposition), but my friend has the trine and she is best friends with her mom.

I wonder if this aspect makes others more intuitive to sexual interest shown by others when it isn't blatant.

Also a very strong person and I won't openly react to a lot.

I'm also very sensitive to people who put me in a submissive position. It's hard enough being a triple Aries, but my Moon / Pluto makes it a special challenge not to be rebel against normal "boss / employee" dynamics. Maybe it's not submissiveness so much as Moon / Pluto kind of adds to the ego.

To top it off, i think my Moon being in Taurus and opposition Pluto gives me a lot of grace as to when and where to say or react.

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posted September 02, 2016 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kiimberly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon conjunct Pluto in Scorpio, 2nd house (6 degree orb)

Emotions felt are deep and intense, more so than your standard moon in Scorpio. I feel everything to my core: happiness, sadness, and everything in between shakes my whole life. I can always tell when I am ill in a dangerous sense if the only thing in my bones is a grey, bored energy.

I constantly reinvent myself, I'm forever toeing the line between what is acceptable and what isn't, and despite my carefree manner sometimes, I take myself and everything very seriously and personally.

I'm also extremely stubborn. There is a darkness that can overtake my emotions, and I've struggled with mental illness since I was very young (my first episode was age 8). The world doesn't always become memory to me in the clearest way-emotion can cloud my vision of the way events may have taken place. I am easily hurt, but easily bounce back with positive recognition. I hate to be embarrassed, even briefly, even jokingly.

I don't do shallow. Even my most "shallow" interests have a depth of meaning to me easily overlooked by many. But sometimes I am very mean, also. I feel Pluto in me in a Mars way sometimes, quick and impulsive despite its slow move and rule over water. The difference (in my opinion), is that a fiery impulsive action and a watery one are quite dissimilar. Fire can (but doesn't always) mean physical, occasionally violent or aggressive impulsiveness, where as plutos aggressive impulses are emotionally damaging instead, haha.

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posted September 02, 2016 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:

I wonder if this aspect makes others more intuitive to sexual interest shown by others when it isn't blatant.


YES!!

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posted September 02, 2016 04:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
YES!!


Good to know. Even my closest friends don't get it when I tell them someone made me uncomfortable, even though to me you can see it in people's eyes if you just pay attention!

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posted September 02, 2016 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpiogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A person I know has Moon in Aquarius square Pluto in Scorpio. She told me once that she was sitting in front of her desk, trying to remember were she had put something, until she realised that 45 minutes had passed with her staring blankly at her computer screen. I think this could be a result of the aspect I mentioned, especially with Aquarius in the mix.

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posted September 02, 2016 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UrsusBlack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 02, 2016 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UrsusBlack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 02, 2016 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all the responses! They were very interesting to read! Although, I will probably still continue to dissect it anyway (as if it hasn't already been enough).

I'm not a Scorpio Moon, my Moon is in Gemini as stated in my signature, but often I sure as hell feel like one. With my Moon in the 8th opposite Pluto exact with an orb of two minutes, how could I not? It's as if my soul was waiting to enter my physical body and was like (sorry, can't wait till the moon moves into Scorpio, here you go!).

Often I feel things so deeply it's as if that's the very lens I use to experience life in itself. I am often friends with people who have lots of water in their chart because they can understand the depth of my emotions and are just as willing to go as deep as I do on a daily basis. In fact, it happens so often that diving into the very depths of a certain subject is so natural. All of these emotional experiences that I've went through I've just classified as normal and never have considered to be mental illnesses, until I did some "research". I have severe anxiety issues and will be easily overwhelmed when it even comes to minor things such as taking AP classes. I have friends who have similar symptoms, one of them in particular having a Scorpio Stellium.

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posted September 02, 2016 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpiogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, I don't agree with the notion that certain signs can feel more deeply than others. After all, what is the measure of "deep" and can ANYONE know if they've reached it or if others have? Most people have emotions. The difference is in how each moon handles them. An Air moon and a Water moon can feel things on the same depth. The difference is that while the Air moon will be able to bury these feelings or wave them off relatively easily (for whatever reason), a Water moon won't be able to do that and can end up "swimming" in them.
Of course aspects and houses play a role, too. But really, no one can say "I feel more deeply than other people". You only know what YOU feel.

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posted September 03, 2016 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kiimberly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scorpiogirl:
Personally, I don't agree with the notion that certain signs can feel more deeply than others. After all, what is the measure of "deep" and can ANYONE know if they've reached it or if others have? Most people have emotions. The difference is in how each moon handles them. An Air moon and a Water moon can feel things on the same depth. The difference is that while the Air moon will be able to bury these feelings or wave them off relatively easily (for whatever reason), a Water moon won't be able to do that and can end up "swimming" in them.
Of course aspects and houses play a role, too. But really, no one can say "I feel more deeply than other people". You only know what YOU feel.

More deeply for me just means things stick to me and get carried in everything I do moving forward. It's not that this doesn't happen for everyone, just that I've not met many folks that understand the intensity that is often unexplainable.

Obviously I don't know what others feel. But I know what I experience at the hand of others and from the world and I find that experience unique. I haven't found another way to explain it. It's important to note that astrological interpretations are often (especially from me because I am like this as a person) more hyperbolic and fatalistic than our nuanced reality. The way an air sigh may bury feelings is something I personally could not do, and right there is a difference that doesn't mean more or less anything, just different. I don't think anyone on here really means any one sign or aspect feels more or a less a certain way than others all the time. Just that it's different and difficult to assign words to a feeling that can't be explained. Its all just speculation. I also shoot off my mouth a lot and all comments from me should be taken with a grain of salt 🤗

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posted September 03, 2016 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for UrsusBlack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 03, 2016 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a square between them - one is in its own house (pluto in 5th) and moon as a ruler is in 8th (eek) and rules 12th

So i guess my creativity,love life is in constant struggle with the hidden and darker part of me,my emotions ,wich might be triggered by sex,misteries,other peoples possesions,hidden things,dark things,intense things....

In general i belive this aspect should be about emotional re birth each and every time.

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posted September 03, 2016 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Moon in the 6 house trine pluto in the second house, I guess my emotions are deeply linked with my body

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posted September 03, 2016 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The description definitely resonates with me, but my square is 9 degrees. I do have a lot of Scorpionic/Plutonic influences in my chart as well, but not as many as others. Yet what has been written above fits.

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posted September 03, 2016 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this, My moon conjunct pluto in libra 1st house. I feel everything and very deeply , it's hard to let it show all the time because of the intensity.

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posted September 03, 2016 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Electro,

Moon and Pluto together in major aspect ...

angulars:
parallel,
conjunction,
contra-parallel,
opposition,
square

... indicates an alignment between the feminine subjective principle of receptivity-sensitivity-need (Lunar, goddess Diana) -- active emotions -- with the unconscious drive to total consciousness (Pluto, Hades) that links to the collective, transpersonal will to survive and thrive.

These are the most difficult and potentially detrimental aspects to have in the natal chart. One is too easily blinded to personal patterns, self-protective to a secretive degree until humiliation or personal destruction intervenes. Think of the politician with a secret hypocritical proclivity, a minister with an obsession with porn or prostitutes, an athlete with a substance abuse or gambling problem -- people who cannot say no to their shadow self or let light balance their personal darkness.

Those are rather dramatic examples of when it goes wrong. I acknowledge many purposes inherent for each developing soul with these aspects. Some may just be very intense and private.

With these two strongly emphasized together there is almost always an issue, even pre-birth (previous incarnations) with death, loss, fear, trauma with subconscious triggers that may require time and finely honed insights to understand. There is no doubt that nearly all feelings are strong, and can become over-powering at times. It is important to understand these through conscious connections of the behaviors and reactions to basic survival and self-protection, etc. This is best gained through help from an outside source who holds a healing intention.

Analysis may get you nowhere. It certainly has very limited benefits. The unconscious Plutonian drive for power does not like analysis or exposure. So it generally takes finding oneself in the helpless position of addiction, uncontrolled obsession, etc, before a sincere pursuit for help is sought. It almost first requires having one`s passion fully engaged, observing the emotions in a detached way and becoming willing to seek balance. Contact sports, dramatic creative outlets, and work of the outlaw/underworld or power-wielding sort (law enforcement, politics, executive positions, doctors, lawyers) attracts these folks.

Many may cope well with these aspects on the surface so long as a creative skill can be applied. This can be therapeutic, but it can be very difficult as soon as sex or power are involved as deep issues of belonging, safety, security, safety, etc, are triggered.

People with these natal aspects are prone to powerful urges, drives, ambitions, and when in balance may have tremendous potential for a lasting positive effect on others. This balance is hard to achieve, however, until healing takes place.

At the very least, they hold the practical power of creativity and feel nothing halfway.

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posted September 03, 2016 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hannaramaa,

The Moon exalted in stable, down-to-earth Taurus and Pluto in its sign is actually probably the most friendly arrangement I can think of between them. As you`ve described, however, there is still very much the dynamic of an opposition at work. I think you described it very honestly and gave good insights. Plutonized emotions easily turn `angry` since they often deal in matters of severity, trauma, etc, that may be originating in an unconscious past.

Personally, I only have a minor aspect between Moon and Pluto separated by 107, being just within orb of a 105-degree aspect (like a mini-square). So I understand some of these things, but don`t feel or experience them at near the intensity.

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
hannaramaa,

The Moon exalted in stable, down-to-earth Taurus and Pluto in its sign is actually probably the most friendly arrangement I can think of between them. As you`ve described, however, there is still very much the dynamic of an opposition at work. I think you described it very honestly and gave good insights. Plutonized emotions easily turn `angry` since they often deal in matters of severity, trauma, etc, that may be originating in an unconscious past.

Personally, I only have a minor aspect between Moon and Pluto separated by 107, being just within orb of a 105-degree aspect (like a mini-square). So I understand some of these things, but don`t feel or experience them at near the intensity.


That's true since they're at least fixed signs and not cardinal ones. Do you think the cardinal sign Moon / Pluto oppositions are more explosive, or fade quickly? Oh, what about a mutable one? I can't see that one being very intense but I don't know anyone with that type of placement either. Yet.

As a side note, yes I have a fixation on loss and take measures so as to prevent that. Death, yes! Used to be more obvious when I was younger. I mean how else do you explain a 4 year old loving reading the obituaries other than having Moon / Pluto and astrology?!

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