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Topic: Can you see Scorpio's game and tame them?
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ScarlettO'Hara
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posted September 12, 2016 08:24 AM
  
Have you ever seen the Scorpio (dominant/sun/moon/mars/venus) man or woman' game and have exposed them?If yes then post your placements. P.S. Love them... just curious about the immature or negative scorpios!!!  IP: Logged |
Starry~*
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From: New York, USA
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posted September 12, 2016 10:17 AM
Yep I do. Very blatantly and clearly, but they make it very subtle and beneath the surface.I am a: Scorp ASC with Pluto/Merc/Venus all conjunct in the first house. I have yet to expose this current person's but I will strike if and when time calls for it. IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted September 12, 2016 11:03 AM
I prefer not to have to deal with such things, hah I have enough on my plate. Idk if I can see these "games" easily. Most of the times I feel like "What do I know, maybe things are not as I perceive", and I don't like to fall into the trap of seeing what I want to see. So usually I don't interfere (not just with scorpios, but others as well), unless I have hard evidence that they're causing actual harm. If it's just small conflicts or other trivial stuff then wooo I don't bother. From what I've seen, most tend to get tangled and trapped in their own game though. Lower vibration of scorp energy reminds me of my father, which is why I spend extra effort to keep check on myself and be as "fair" as I can. Twice I was tempted to air out the dirt on two people, but didn't because I thought that it would make things worse. One was my friend's former spouse, who did a number of things to shake her emotionally, cheated her financially, frauds...etc... I was able to use the information I gathered to negotiate with him and put an end to that messy situation. I'm a cap, saturn dominated. 12th house stellium. Scorp mc, Pluto in the 10th making a few aspects that I don't pay much attention to because their effect is hard for me to detect under the bulk of saturn and neptune influence. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX
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posted September 12, 2016 11:10 AM
It can be easy for me to pick up on certain vibrations from individuals. I've dealt with a low vibration Scorpio Asc conjunct Moon before; the fact that it was so easy for me to get under her skin is what made it easy for me to expose her. Often I don't to keep things simple, but if I needed to I could easily do it. I think it's easier when they are at a lower vibration because they "think" they are very perceptive but aren't necessarily as perceptive as they think they are. That same Scorpio Asc/Moon person will often just introduce herself to groups of people without any sort of invitation whatsoever. One of my friends, who is a Scorpio Sun, describes her as being, "in her own happy world thinking she's so perceptive." She also has a tendency to be an "attention ***** ", which confused me a bit regarding the Scorpio Ascendant. That's when I knew that she was vibrating at a lower octave. I am a Scorpio Ascendant conjunct Mars exact. 8th house Gemini Moon involved in Mystic Rectangle trine sun, opposite Pluto exact and sextile MC. Sun sextile Pluto. ------------------
Scorpio Ascendant
Aquarius Sun in 4th
Gemini Moon in 8th
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kaiLLand
Newflake Posts: 21
From: Queanbeyan, NSW, Australia
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted September 12, 2016 10:59 PM
Yes! LOL!
I'm a Scorp ascendant
Jupiter con Asc
12th house Pluto in Libra con Asc
Saturn conjunct Pluto
Moon trine Pluto
Mercury sextile Pluto
Neptune sextile Pluto
Venus square Pluto
Grand water trine connecting the 1st, 9th, and 5th houses.I attract Scorpios like crazy. IP: Logged |
colorful butterfly
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From: Durham north carolina usa
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posted September 12, 2016 11:52 PM
If you want to tame a scorpio, they must trust you.IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted September 13, 2016 03:22 AM
See their games? Yes. But as I was raised by one for too much of my childhood, it may come from my upbringing.But tame them? I've never tried, I just kick them to the curb. I get along great with those who don't play head games. IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte
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posted September 13, 2016 12:40 PM
Mmmm my mom, she's Scorpio sun conjunct Neptune. She's so bossy/controlling and when she doesn't want me or my brother/sister to do something she'll try to manipulate the situation or convince us what she wants us to like. It can be pretty annoying. I use to say stuff about it or call her out all the time, she just denies it. She's pretty stubborn about it too. I feel like it's Neptune, makes her remember only what she wants to then scorpios fixedness and pride makes her never admit when she's wrong.. Ha When she does this to me now I'm more "gentle" about reacting to it, sort of just lightly brush it off or tell her I don't want to do that I'm gonna do something else.. It's like she just can't help herself ha. I can usually see where it's coming from or what her desired outcome wants to be. i don't see the point in creating fights over it, it's so ingrained in her (my libra sun talking..) and during fights it's when the actual Scorpio games come into play so it's not worth it. I agree though, to tame a Scorpio they need to trust you, which means no secrets and being very open/honest with them. They appreciate authentic expressions. Being honest.. And slightly playful when calling them out.. That what I do with my mom and trust me.. Being a libra, I definitely learned how not to step on toes growing up with all the water/earth in my family.. Lots of Scorpio especially.. Dey all so moody. ha.
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hypatia238
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posted September 13, 2016 01:24 PM
Tame them?! hahahahhahaYeah right?! That is funny. JK but seriously no, I don't think you can tame a scorpio and if you do is only bc they are letting you; I would say this applies to sun in scorpio and AC in scorpio but especially to mars in scorpio. IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher
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posted September 13, 2016 02:28 PM
There are too many websites that at least seem/appear to excuse Scorpio's shadow behavior too much. This is one of the rare websites/forums that doesn't take Scorpio's bullsh*t. Thank God, I thought I was missing a chip in my brain, or crazy, for not liking aspects of Scorpios! It's almost a big relief to read other people who think Scorpios (their shadow aspect) can be jerkholes! IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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From: love lives forever
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 13, 2016 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Tame them?! hahahahhahaYeah right?! That is funny. JK but seriously no, I don't think you can tame a scorpio and if you do is only bc they are letting you; I would say this applies to sun in scorpio and AC in scorpio but especially to mars in scorpio.
Agreed... you can't actually do it... I know  I've tried to tame myself!  It is an essentially wild sign, it's loyalties are made from deep wells of emotion, and the Scorpio will smell your attempt to box them into your moral code faster than you will be able to assess and coerce them... Scorpio can be understood, but will never be changed through force... It's a FIxed water sign, emotional. If there's a healthy Gemini presence, or mutable signs period, in the chart, then they're more liable to be willing to change, to see the other perspective, to assess their own stuff. Actually a lot of things contribute to accountability, and as always the whole chart just has to be taken into consideration... maturity of the individual matters a lot. I wouldn't attribute somebody's misbehavior to a Scorpio placement alone, although I know the shadow side is rough... same with all the signs.. it exists because of an imbalance in the person's life and must be tempered by the qualities of the opposite sign. That's what I've noticed anyway... more on that later... but the extreme shadow requires the energy of the opposition to balance it out. Obviously other things help too, but if you engage in power games with Scorpio they generally don't yield... You can help them see the error of their actions, the way it hurts others... Scorpio does understand emotional pain... but without being an insightful penetrating person yourself, you're fooling yourself if you think you know their reasons for doing what they're doing better than they do.
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yungang_grotto
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From: love lives forever
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posted September 13, 2016 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by colorful butterfly:
If you want to tame a scorpio, they must trust you.
  Yeah... if you want to tame them, they have to be willing to be tamed by you... they have to be humble, and you need to be so freaking genuine and not playing any games yourself (or they'll see it and call you on it, if you're being self righteous rather than actually helpful, etc, they'll feel it a mile away...) IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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From: love lives forever
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posted September 13, 2016 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
Mmmm my mom, she's Scorpio sun conjunct Neptune. She's so bossy/controlling and when she doesn't want me or my brother/sister to do something she'll try to manipulate the situation or convince us what she wants us to like. It can be pretty annoying. I use to say stuff about it or call her out all the time, she just denies it. She's pretty stubborn about it too. I feel like it's Neptune, makes her remember only what she wants to then scorpios fixedness and pride makes her never admit when she's wrong.. Ha When she does this to me now I'm more "gentle" about reacting to it, sort of just lightly brush it off or tell her I don't want to do that I'm gonna do something else.. It's like she just can't help herself ha. I can usually see where it's coming from or what her desired outcome wants to be. i don't see the point in creating fights over it, it's so ingrained in her (my libra sun talking..) and during fights it's when the actual Scorpio games come into play so it's not worth it. I agree though, to tame a Scorpio they need to trust you, which means no secrets and being very open/honest with them. They appreciate authentic expressions. Being honest.. And slightly playful when calling them out.. That what I do with my mom and trust me.. Being a libra, I definitely learned how not to step on toes growing up with all the water/earth in my family.. Lots of Scorpio especially.. Dey all so moody. ha.
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Starry~*
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From: New York, USA
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posted September 13, 2016 04:17 PM
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That's what I've noticed anyway... more on that later... but the extreme shadow requires the energy of the opposition to balance it out. Obviously other things help too, but if you engage in power games with Scorpio they generally don't yield...You can help them see the error of their actions, the way it hurts others... Scorpio does understand emotional pain... but without being an insightful penetrating person yourself, you're fooling yourself if you think you know their reasons for doing what they're doing better than they do.[/B]
Very well said. I'm currently dealing with the very dark sides of an older Scorpio. Cannot be tamed. Anyone going into a relationship with any Scorpios hoping to tame them or change them will be disillusioned. I know that being with a Scorpio is not an easy task. Dark stormy clouds will be 10x dark. However, the good times are also 10x greater. Sometimes I sense things and what they are trying to hint at. Scorpios are usually insecure so they will test the waters in subtle ways. If you can catch these subtle gestures of testing the waters, you will know what or how they are thinking. Calling them out depends on situation and circumstance. Be careful of their easily bruised ego and sensitivity. They will be very unforgiving if you challenge them in such a way. IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted September 13, 2016 04:56 PM
Unless the scorpio in question has heavy sag placements, you wont tame them - you will just **** them off in the process. If the scorp in question does have a lot of sag, you still wont tame them - they will just be more laid back than usual and probably wont care. If you are dealing with a less evolved scorp I suggest walking away as opposed to playing any games with them or, especially, trying to change them. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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From: Colorado
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 13, 2016 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Agreed... you can't actually do it... I know I've tried to tame myself! It is an essentially wild sign, it's loyalties are made from deep wells of emotion, and the Scorpio will smell your attempt to box them into your moral code faster than you will be able to assess and coerce them... Scorpio can be understood, but will never be changed through force... It's a FIxed water sign, emotional. If there's a healthy Gemini presence, or mutable signs period, in the chart, then they're more liable to be willing to change, to see the other perspective, to assess their own stuff. Actually a lot of things contribute to accountability, and as always the whole chart just has to be taken into consideration... maturity of the individual matters a lot. I wouldn't attribute somebody's misbehavior to a Scorpio placement alone, although I know the shadow side is rough... same with all the signs.. it exists because of an imbalance in the person's life and must be tempered by the qualities of the opposite sign. That's what I've noticed anyway... more on that later... but the extreme shadow requires the energy of the opposition to balance it out. Obviously other things help too, but if you engage in power games with Scorpio they generally don't yield... You can help them see the error of their actions, the way it hurts others... Scorpio does understand emotional pain... but without being an insightful penetrating person yourself, you're fooling yourself if you think you know their reasons for doing what they're doing better than they do.
Well said.
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yungang_grotto
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From: love lives forever
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posted September 13, 2016 05:52 PM
But I mean it's possible of course for Scorpio to be un-self-aware... but that's kind of the point... preoccupation with self is no longer fulfilling. They are embodying the essential struggle of merging, they're pointing out your darkness through their own actions... They're in the process of murdering the personality and doing away with the illusion of separation once and for all... they are in charge of merging, discarding, dying back of ego... so the soul growth can happen. It's not always pretty... lol... but remember Sag is in the other side of that turmoil, and Sag freedom is HARD WON. They're battle hardenedby Scorpio's merciless process of reduction to bare essentials so that the heights can be attained...IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted September 13, 2016 07:43 PM
At the risk of over-simplifying - no. Not just Scorpios, though - anyone. The minute you try to "tame" some or all aspects of someone's personality, you're entering the territory of trying to change them, as individuals. I'm assuming by *tame*, you mean, temper their reactions in some way? Make them more manageable, less roof-raising melodrama? Then you're with the wrong sign. You won't get a mellow Scorpio, no matter what they seem like in public. Anyway, personally I'd say, to expect them to be any other than their nature - is itself kinda screwy. Not judging you - just saying, it's a no-win situation. Too many aspects of this to examine, I can't do justice to all of them here. But I'll tell you what I've found. If they truly love you, trust me, behind the scenes, they are trying to *tame* themselves! Scorpios are very hard on themselves, right up there with Virgo & Capricorn. Except here the rigour is emotional. They want you to have the best, purest, most intense love. The self-aware ones are already treating you with velvet gloves. They know how scorching they can be, and they consciously try to put the lid on that. In their minds, their job is to *protect* you. And to some extent, they try to protect you from themselves too - though you may never know it. They have the patience of Taurus, but with the boiling emotions of Pluto - so it's harder.
The love of my life, used to say, when I called him that.. "I don't deserve that. The true love of your life would love you ten times more than I do and hurt you ten times less". The ones that are *not* self-aware - major, major powers of deflection! You will never be able to put a finger on why they're wrong about anything. And they won't hold back on the games either. But it's just that you probably met them at the "wrong" time in their journey. I've had some come to me years later, apologizing. The "emotions" we keep talking about, they're not just motives, they're compulsions. They can't even help themselves, despite their at-times super-human self control. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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From: love lives forever
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posted September 13, 2016 07:45 PM
^^^ !!!IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted September 13, 2016 08:07 PM
ScarlettO'Hara, Btw I Looooooooove your name. In the book, she was almost definitely an Aries.
And she was played by a Scorpio in the movie. IP: Logged |
Gemini30
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posted September 13, 2016 11:24 PM
I can not only tame Scorpios but i can even control them. Do i control them? NO heck no. I ain't a Dictator. However to tame a Scorpio you must have extreme patience. It'll take years but eventually you'll get there! IP: Logged |
Liliya
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posted September 13, 2016 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
It'll take years but eventually you'll get there!
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12muddy
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posted September 14, 2016 01:19 AM
^ I laughed hard. IP: Logged |
ScarlettO'Hara
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posted September 14, 2016 02:17 AM
Woww... thanks for so many answers!!! I totally agree with you all. Scorpio needs to trust you or respect you in order to be tamed. I have always attracted Scorp placement people around me. And everytime they play some game. But each time I unmask it and tell them I won't fall for that game of their's. They listen to me and respect my words... maybe because of my genuine behavior. What I think is you can expose and tame them: 1) If they trust or respect you.
2) or If you have scorp placements yourself... I have Moon (almost, lagging by few .07 deg),North Node and Pluto in 8th house in Scorpio and I always see what's going on inside the Scorp. I solve their issues like no other person.
And @Elysia thanks!!! Even I love that character a lot. It inspires me on a very subconcious level. 
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curiouspisces89
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posted September 14, 2016 10:14 AM
Their games are all the same so its easy to read them once you have deal with one IP: Logged |
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