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UnderworldGlory
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posted September 17, 2016 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mind has been extremely unsettled and uneasy over the negative interpretation of these degrees. I've been extremely depressed, health isn't good, and looking over at the interpretation of these degrees is just not making it any better. Has anyone had similar experiences?

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lalalinda
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posted September 17, 2016 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello UnderworldGlory, I was not not familiar with these degrees.

I researched it and found a ton of interesting information. Thank you so much for bringing this topic up.

Here's one website you might be interested in.
http://www.astrologyinaction.com/360-degrees-of-the-zodiac

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A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step...Lao Tzu

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UnderworldGlory
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posted September 17, 2016 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, thanks for the prompt response. I already visited this website but it doesn't address the issue I've been having regarding the pessimistic foretellings of the degrees listed not just by this author Adriano Carelli but also by Charubel and Kozminsky symbols.

Again I'm wondering if anyone has experienced any dread reading these degrees?

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mirage29
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posted September 17, 2016 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
UnderworldGlory..... You have to take care of yourself! Please... {hug}

quote:
UnderworldGlory ...
My mind has been extremely unsettled and uneasy over the negative interpretation of these degrees.
I've been extremely depressed,
health isn't good, and
looking over at the interpretation of these degrees is just not making it any better.
Has anyone had similar experiences?
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I already visited this website
but it doesn't address the issue I've been having regarding the
pessimistic foretellings of the degrees listed
not just by this author Adriano Carelli but
also by Charubel and Kozminsky symbols.

Again I'm wondering if anyone has experienced any dread reading these degrees?


I've tried to put a post together here, but there was a LOT of interference in my environment... I hope this makes sense, without scaring anyone. LOL


Quotations and Scriptures.....

Like a fluttering sparrow or a darting swallow,
an undeserved curse will not land on its intended victim.
-- Proverbs 26:2 http://biblehub.com/proverbs/26-2.htm

*by Curse here, meaning words that are spoken and heard, then interpreted by the hearer with possible effects* Your subconscious mind always scans, and throws out little flags at things IT thinks applies. (Just the way it is designed, to keep us informed and safe.)

And

Guard your heart above all else, for it determines the course of your life.
Proverbs 4:23 NLT http://biblehub.com/proverbs/4-23.htm

Your Heart is the Core of you, where you stay Centered and Hold your Peace. It is also a resonating chamber... things flow in and out.

Basically, the Ideas you entertain form Imaginations, around which you may begin to behave or vibe certain ways, as you go into stress or stay in Peace about.

These things you loop in your mind, and ruminate in the backgrounds of your thoughts, tending towards Manifesting themselves into actual physical realities. (Either chemically organically, or by influencing your choices and behaviors.)

Everyone does this on an unconscious and subconscious level. What we need to do is to be more Mindful of what we take in to our thought-realm systems, and circulate. What we 'allow' space for will remain there, nesting. --

They can coalesce, synthesize into systems of beliefs, ideas about yourself which may be wrong or only 'coincidental' to be happening. (Our human psychology was designed to want to form causal links, naturally-- to keep us 'safe' from harms-- imagined or real. Defense system...).

If you learn about this, and become conscious and aware of it, you can begin to shape your future a bit differently, by what you feed your consciousness, and 'hold' space with.

We must remember too--- that the sabians and degree prophecies were made by humans, involved with their own drama-stories, friends, filtering (unknown) energy sources.

On the spiritual levels, we really don't know what 'realm' or layer of invisible beings and 'thought-forms' were downloading this information to them?...

Not all things that are said to be divine are of the purest cleanest source-waters.

For each person, that means YOU must learn how to discern, for yourself..... (consult your clergy, guru teacher mentor parent etc for advice can be important).

'What' you allow into your consciousness can feed like good nutrition or fester into something unintended.

What do YOU want to 'come true' or become manifest INTO your actual reality? ...

Your Thoughts have the power to become Things.


In bible stories, many children (and adults) use the symbol of the Mustard Grain/Seed as the symbol for Having a tiny-bit of Faith. ...

The mustard plant is actually a giant overgrown bush?... Doesn't take much care to grow it. Basically grows by itself...
(Idea System, Thought System) (Things you learn will develop a system of associations for you.)
Side ref, http://ww2.odu.edu/~lmusselm/plant/bible/mustard.php


And to add to this aside?
I also symbolically see this as the neuro-system-- the nervous-system, spinal cord and brain. They have brain training now! LOL
(If you can envision the bush or tree without leaves, this could look like the human nervous system?) ...
Maybe even the interconnections to electrical-subtle chakra grids?
(Haven't studied that yet, but it could be a guess?)

[On faith, and Mustard Seeds]
It is the smallest of all seeds, but it becomes the largest of garden plants;
it grows into a tree,
and birds come and make nests in its branches.
-- Matthew 13:32 NLT
http://biblehub.com/matthew/13-32.htm

(Jesus was known to use Nature, to explain spiritual things using symbolic language)


"That the birds of worry and care fly over your head? – this you cannot help.
But that they build nests in your hair? – THIS, you can prevent!”
attributed to Chinese Proverb.
http://mirplemmons.wordpress.com/2011/09/08/dont-let-them-build-a-nest/


Spirit is the Life,
Mind is the Builder, and the
Physical is the Result.
-- Edgar Cayce http://www.edgarcayce.org/the-readings/spiritual-growth


We must remind ourselves not to take interpretations "too literally"... Just use them generally and broadly.
This includes astrology, any oracle cards or divination tools, sabians, etc. Or, philosophies, religious quotes out of context, etc.

I KNOW for myself, how hard that can be... It's seductive and soo delicious for the mind to gobble and eat up. And especially applicable to people into self-improvement.
(You're talking to a Gemmy Sun H6taur, with a Gemmy Mercury, and analytical Virgo Moon... PLUS many other 'imagination expanding' Mercury aspects....
So, I know I'm Preaching at 'the choir' here? {me} haha)

The absolute magnificence of synchronicities need to be held 'as much as possible' as object synchronistic matter. (Inject common sense and grounding-- keep pulling back like a telescope or microscope... micro macrovision)


And as final note...... There are some more-unscrupulous persons who are not beneath using FEAR in order to manipulate others into buying products.
Or!, some may lead you towards visiting websites, which may have viruses, Trojans. ....

Know your astrologers, know your sources.

Know Yourself.
Monitor your fear, and where that comes from?

It's okay to back-off for a while from some sites and systems IF you're not having good results. Doesn't mean you can't re-visit after a period of time... YOU and Your Health and Well Being come first. Balance!

"Ain't Worried By Nothin'" ....

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