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soren
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posted September 19, 2016 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my dad is a leo. but he's always had his home as a nest. he's always been super "caring" "compassionate" "kind" "gentle" "cooks for the family" type of person. soft amiable. introverted shy. he has his sun in the 4th house of regular house systems, and

the new house system i mentioned, i believe there's a chance it's the strongest of the 3 main sets of signs. draconic is by far not very strong. the horizon ring mixed with the sun energy path might be strong. but my new system discovered i actually think now it might be the strongest. i know its there because. its the strongest because its the reason we are stuck to the earth and not floating to the sun. the earths gravity is 50000x stronger than the sun, on individual people. this is why the earths rotation ring, MAY be actually stronger than the sun energy ring. i dont know. ok after typing it nevermind i remember. i remember 2 progressions i had of my sun. i had a progression through the regular houses and it hit me like a ton of bricks. and i had the sun progress through my newly discovered houses and it was strong enough, but not nearly as much as a brick destroyer collapsement. it was like i became cool and passive and emo.

but through the regular houses i had no control i changed my whole attitude and lifestyle and behavour.


so. there we have it. so are the houses stronger than the signs? i dont know. i dont have a proper progression through the signs to compare to. actually i do. 2 hours after i was born saturn changed signs.


but it wasnt the sun. but it was strong. it might be the strongest. i dont know. all we can conclude from my progression is that the celestial ring is weaker than the ecliptic. look:

celestial ring + horizon < ecliptic + horizon
=
celestial ring + ecliptic < ecliptic + horizon
=
sign < houses

so i think the houses are the strongest.


so this is why. zodiac sign alone is nothing. we arent living in primitive times any more guys. you got to take into consideration house placements more importantly than signs. especially my new house system.

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted September 19, 2016 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
again very interesting! I am always looking forward to hearing about your system.

so by your dad's example, do you want to say that he seems more like a cancer than a leo? have you also checked the duad and dwad of his Leo degree? maybe it is in cancer or falls into the 4th?

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soren
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posted September 19, 2016 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he has duad in sagitarious


yes he seems much more cancer than leo. because his sun is in the 4th house of regular houses and also it would be in the 4th house of the celestial/horizon houses. so in a way they may double the effect. i believe the houses/new houses from the celestial sphere both have duads too because they are just like the regular signs. and i use duads because only duad or dwad could be true only one. i experienced through progressions that duads are accurate that each starting duad is the same as the sign its in. because thats how it was for my progressions.

anyway the new system is simple. it all depends on your east point. for some people the new houses will just overlap for the most part all the regular houses, making each planet falling in the same house for both houses extra strong of that sign. however if the east point was 30 degrees from the ascendent. then all the planets may all have 3 signs each. it would be in a different house in regular houses than to the new houses, and depending on the sign it could be in a different sign than the other 2 house systems. so the person's sun would have an influence of all 3 signs. a less potent but more variation to their experience. more of a jack of all trades than having all your chickens in one coop and staying to see what that coop entails


also i made a mistake i realized today about whether the houses are stronger than the signs. the only info i personally believe is true from my progressions is that

ecliptic > celestial ring

i dont know if
horizon disc > celestial ring, is correct

it likely is because it is physically present, and you know how the ecliptic is made from the physical sun, it's a path engrained into ethers. the nodes are just the energy path of the moon. the physical bodies themselves are creating the things. they are the important factors much more important than the mere energy they leave behind. so in that sense we know that the physical is most important in astrology

therefore its likely that the horizon is stronger than the celestial sphere but i dont have proof. so i only know that the regular houses are stronger than this new house system. because thats how it felt. but it still is the 3rd most powerful set of houses/signs and overlaps the regular houses.

in fact there is another set of houses. the sun leaves an energy ring behind in the sky. so does the moon. but its not draconic. draconic energy rings from the moon are very weak because the moon moves so slowly around the earth. but based off the earth spinning, the moon leaves behind a seperate ring similar to the sun's energy path.

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