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Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 882 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted September 27, 2016 08:02 AM
What is the difference between the systems? Why would we use one and not the other?Which one is 'right'? I am referring to the house systems, such as equal, whole signs, etc. There seem to be quite a bit. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 1127 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 27, 2016 08:12 AM
vedic is based off of constellations (star dots that humans pointed out what picture or animal they form) the start of the ram constellation is where the celestial ring and the ecliptic crossed each other 2000 years ago. but now that point where the rings cross has moved over around 20 degrees from the ram constellation.
now say it is at 20 degrees in Ram. theres many star pictures in the sky. not just on the eclpitic but all over. anyway western believes that that crossing point of the giant rings is actually where the zodiac begins. Aries Point. Start of aries. If you use a slight understanding of science is that the closer things are, the more they effect you. Considering stars are many light years away (much of them) and the likelihood of the pictures we pointed out actually having a physical/quantum/metaphysical effect is very unlikely. well there is none if you'd ask a scientist. but then again they dont know about the sign's energy either
The ecliptic energy path and the celestial energy ring are both in our backyards. both centered pretty nearly around the earth from just a little ways into outer space. imagine that.
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Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 882 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted September 27, 2016 08:37 AM
Sorry, I should have been more specific.I was referring to the house systems. Equal, whole signs, etc. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 1127 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 27, 2016 08:42 AM
IF you look at the sun at its highest peak. it is litterally physically located at the MH. For some reason this isnt always squared the ascendent. The MH can be located anywhere above the horizon while looking at a natal chart. This is litterally the highest point in the sky. If you look at the celestial and ecliptic rings crossing, the MH is cancer point. taht is where the 2 rings are the furthest from each other which creates some kind of tension or energy. The highest point of the ecliptic from the earth should be the cusp of the 10th, as the horizon itself is another giant ring. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 1780 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted September 28, 2016 12:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by Koniucha: What is the difference between the systems?
That is a long involved topic that must be answered either in mathematical terms or in the simplest summary. The simple summary is that they are different ways of dividing the sky into 12 parts as seen in a birth chart using an overlay that appears as lines on the chart. Some use more a time-based system of dividing the semi-arcs (Koch, Placidus) invented by the Arabian astrologer Haly in the 11th century. Others are space-based. quote:
Why would we use one and not the other?
Because careful examination through comparison and research leads you to see one is consistently most accurate. quote:
Which one is 'right'?
I don't think 'right' is the word. Placidus is the most accurate, but loses accuracy between 60-66* north or south latitude. No house system currently used is perfect. The so-called equal system is not actually a house system at all, but an arbitrary equal division of the ecliptic in a chart purely for convenience without any regard to the dynamics of the Earth's rotation. It is the least accurate since accuracy would require the chart to be always located at the equator on a perfectly round Earth with no wobble. quote:
I am referring to the house systems, such as equal, whole signs, etc. There seem to be quite a bit.
Yes, since they are all human overlays rather than moving bodies there are many theoretical ways of conceiving them. ------------------ The Declinations Guy Rising Sign Descriptions | Expert rectification ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓
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Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 882 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted September 28, 2016 07:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Yes, since they are all human overlays rather than moving bodies there are many theoretical ways of conceiving them.
Thank you very much Kannon IP: Logged |