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DopGang
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posted September 29, 2016 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well at that distance, it would look nearly identical.
You also have to keep in mind the limited region at the time and limited population. It wasn't like today where they'd give John a ring on the telephone across the Atlantic and ask him what they sky looked like. With modern software it's easy for us to make relocation charts and all that.

How would you do it?
Without a computer, without any kind of modern telescope. Without any aid whatsoever other than you and stars, how would you do it?

How would you know where your property was and your neighbor's was if someone didn't tell you because they used survey equipment with GPS and all that?
You'd probably use a rock or stab a stick in the ground, a tree, a stream. Wouldn't you?
Many states in the U.S. use rivers to form the boarders, to know where one is and another is. Again, before modern technology when the land was being settled.
Hypothetically, if they looked up at a sky with no stars and never saw one, ever, how would they know in the inky black night?
If all they saw were planets floating through the sky and the moon. How'd they know where they were in reference to the rest of space?

Why don't you explain how they did it? I gave mine.

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soren
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posted September 29, 2016 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nah I'm pretty sure that if there were 12 equally individual spaced out regions in the sky, that if the people back then somehow did discover them, that they would just always in some ways just tell where they are. I mean they are invisible to the naked eye, the signs- and the energy they are. But even then you'd expect them to just psychically sense where the borders of the signs were telepathically.

No I'm saying if there really was 12 equally spaced signs, then the only way to keep a record on them would be to map them out. If they didn't do that- they'd never remember or be able to know where they occurred. The last posts were a joke but didn't execute it good enough

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DopGang
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posted September 29, 2016 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we're actually thinking the same thing but misunderstanding each other. Maybe?
*sigh*

So what I'm saying, if they saw, Regulus, a big bright, unique star with other stars sitting just left of it, or above it, maybe 3 to the right of it, whatever. They knew that was Regulus. They knew that very near Regulus, was Leo and to this side was Virgo. I'm not suggesting that they had it pinpointed to a half degree of course. But they could look up, "There's Regulus. Leo is there, in this region of the sky."
Where we've broken it down so fine, they could at least say, "This is the energy of this region of the sky."
Much more basic than what we use today.

Is that what you're thinking?

ETA: In case anyone forgot, this is my speculation, that I believe. Not that I'm saying definitively - "This is just how it was." This is how I THINK it was.

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soren
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posted September 29, 2016 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its either 1 of 3 things:

discard all current beliefs of astrology, say they were right:

they created astrology when they looked up at the sky. when they saw this:

they said, "hey! that constellation looks like a lion! I honestly think that when any body lines up in that constellation, it is going to make them have the energy like a lion! they will be proud, strong, and noble."

2: they noticed when the sun was near by this constellation, it had leo energy. the constellation itself looked like a lion to them, and they discovered that it was the constellation that had this leonine energy to it. that the constellations themselves and the pictures they made were actually a symbol from the gods that showed them what personality the sun would have.


or 3: they somehow noticed that personality's of people had a big change from month to month depending on where the sun was located. they could note when that time happened, and so they found the borders. they made up and mapped the constellation that coincided with it


its interesting that some people believe that it was actually the Annunuki aliens (if they existed) that taught humans astrology. It would be interesting to research if astrology independendtly originated at several seperate places around the globe (proving it was not all linked to one teaching most likely). anyone have any details on this?

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DopGang
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posted September 29, 2016 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I'm leaving out the sun which I'm sure plays a massive role as well. Understanding the seasons and how they correlate to what part of the sky is being viewed and where a certain star should be.

They were smarter than I am. That's for sure! So maybe I need to be quiet and stay humble?

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DopGang
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posted September 29, 2016 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by soren:
its either 1 of 3 things:

discard all current beliefs of astrology, say they were right:

they created astrology when they looked up at the sky. when they saw this:

they said, "hey! that constellation looks like a lion! I honestly think that when any body lines up in that constellation, it is going to make them have the energy like a lion! they will be proud, strong, and noble."

2: they noticed when the sun was near by this constellation, it had leo energy. the constellation itself looked like a lion to them, and they discovered that it was the constellation that had this leonine energy to it. that the constellations themselves and the pictures they made were actually a symbol from the gods that showed them what personality the sun would have.


or 3: they somehow noticed that personality's of people had a big change from month to month depending on where the sun was located. they could note when that time happened, and so they found the borders. they made up and mapped the constellation that coincided with it


Yep, yep.

I'm on board with that.
Ahh... It's been fun.

In the end, I think we're thinking the same things really. Just having a hard time getting it across. Well I am. Typically.

But I agree.
And we both agree that there are only 12.

ETA:
I'm sitting here thinking, "What the hell just happened anyway?" Hahaha. Like, does our conversation even make sense? I don't know. It's like the entirety of it is still bobbling around in my head. Like we went around in circles only to end back up at the start.

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