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Topic: Why do some heavy scorpio influenced men try to act more lighthearted?
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headintheclouds91
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posted September 29, 2016 05:58 PM
  
I know a guy with a Scorpio sun, moon and venus and his pluto conjuncts all of these planets too and he always tries to act more lighthearted than what he clearly is. Its so obvious to me that he is faking it and tries to cover up his more intense, sensitive and deep side. Why do some of them do this? Drake too who has a scorpio/pluto stellium himself i have also seen doing this. And the husband of my friend`s sister is also a scorpio/pluto heavy guy acts the exact same way. The only thing i can see in common with these guys astrologically is that they are all very strongly influenced by scorpio /pluto. IP: Logged |
Kiimberly
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posted September 29, 2016 06:41 PM
My boyfriend is heavily scorpio. Sun/Pluto/Venus/Merc in 4h Scorp, pluto conj sun conj IC. With this placement it means Taurus is his MC and Leo his ASC. Both considered less darkly intense signs, generally. He has a Leo moon, too. He masks EVERYTHING with humor. There is no being serious with this guy, sometimes I am successful, but an amazing ability to deflect everything with a joke so funny you actually forget he's being a big fake and not letting on how he really feels. I pick my battles with that stuff. But there's definitely no changing it.To be fair to Pluto and Scorpio, he's nearly got a fixed grand cross (he would if you count the midheaven as a placement): moon in leo conj asc, mars in aquarius conj dc, sun and pluto in scorpio conj ic and a taurus midheaven. So that may have something to do with his personality hehe IP: Logged |
the89freespirit
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posted September 29, 2016 07:24 PM
I have Moon conjunct Pluto and MC in Scorpio. I honestly act the same way. A big part of it is my Aquarius NN in the 1st. I have less and less of a need to be that dramatic or heavy, outside of my artistic life. Outside of that, I am mostly lighthearted and full of jokes and wit and casualness in my demeanor, to a point where most would be shocked at the dark intense stuff that can go on in my head. But it is not fake at all. At the same time, I never pretend to not have depth either. I can easily switch into a very philosophical or metaphysical conversation. For me, my Scorpio energy, by being on the Midheaven, is so evident that it is going to emerge one way or another. But I have learned how to deliver it. In fact, humor is often the best way to deliver that raw truth that Scorpio sees so easily. Very perceptive people are usually also very funny and learn to be to offset any social awkwardness that intensity may create. So if you see a Scorpio person acting this way, that is why. Also do not try to pin placements down so easily. There are many ways an astrological energy can be expressed. Don't expect all Scorpio types to be very brooding and serious. And keeping things light can just be another expression of our Scorpio mystery.  ------------------
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CosmiqPhuz
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posted September 29, 2016 08:23 PM
Scorpio doesn't always mean serious, I think. Deep feeling, yes. Intense and extreme, yes. But not humorless or stoic. I would consider their ascendant signs too, since that can be a big part of what you're seeing.IP: Logged |
CosmiqPhuz
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posted September 29, 2016 09:21 PM
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DopGang
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posted September 29, 2016 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Scorpio doesn't always mean serious, I think. Deep feeling, yes. Intense and extreme, yes. But not humorless or stoic. I would consider their ascendant signs too, since that can be a big part of what you're seeing.
Many of them that I know are hilarious.
I was also thinking that maybe they reserve that side of them for a few. IP: Logged |
Selenite
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posted September 30, 2016 01:17 AM
Scared of their own darkness!IP: Logged |
CosmiqPhuz
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posted September 30, 2016 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by DopGang:
Many of them that I know are hilarious.
I was also thinking that maybe they reserve that side of them for a few.
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BeholdAstarte
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posted September 30, 2016 02:09 AM
I can relate to this , and what was said above ^ esp @ 89freespirit because I too have prominent Venus/Pluto Scorpio conj on DC and 0 degree parallel to my sun/merc/Mars. I consider myself a pretty cheerful and silly person most of the time. I enjoy humor a lot and can laugh easily. What I think of when I read all these though is how secretive I am and what I choose to present to others. There is volcanic well inside me I don't even understand, and it's so heavy, I control it and don't like to put that into others, I dunno I suppose talking about it just feels so vulnerable? Or exposing that side. So it's better just to keep it light and happy, because it's so easy to sway into those intense feelings. im a pretty hyper sensitive person, I'm not sure if I'm ever really able to hide my sensitivity/emotions. I can think of 4 people I know who have heavy Scorpio placements with Pluto conjunctions and they can appear so much "lighter" than their depths present. And are also pretty silly and humorous people. The intensity comes out in subtle ways though, it's always wherever the passion is directed where it's most noticable. Relationships/love/art IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91
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posted September 30, 2016 04:33 AM
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Scorpio doesn't always mean serious, I think. Deep feeling, yes. Intense and extreme, yes. But not humorless or stoic. I would consider their ascendant signs too, since that can be a big part of what you're seeing.
Yeah i get that they can be funny and all but its the "i am trying to downplay my intensity so i`ll try to act more casual" part that bothers me so much. I am very sensitive to other people`s emotions myself so when i feel that someone isn`t being themselves it FEELS so dishonest and fake to me.
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headintheclouds91
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posted September 30, 2016 04:43 AM
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Originally posted by Selenite:
Scared of their own darkness!
Yes i think this might be one of the reasons for this behavior too. IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91
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posted September 30, 2016 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
The intensity comes out in subtle ways though, it's always wherever the passion is directed where it's most noticable. Relationships/love/art
Yes i have noticed this too. The guy i mentioned he was very interested in me probably why when he tried to act "lighter" around me i immediately saw through it. It just seemed so faked and like he was trying too hard to act "cool" and chill.
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the89freespirit
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posted September 30, 2016 11:01 AM
I don't see why it makes him dishonest. Maybe he is just not comfortable enough with you yet to share those feelings. And maybe he feels some subtle pressure or expectation to share when he is not ready to or wanting to go there yet. That can drive a Scorpio person away fast.Getting to know a Scorpio person is never a simple straightforward affair. Expecting so only leads to disappointment. There are layers upon layers, many of which you will probably just not know. The truth is that all people are complex and it is hard to say that you truly know someone. But Scorpio represents the unknowable nature of man in a very powerful way. Those of us with Scorpio planets are never going to be easy to understand or let you know everything about our lives or ourselves. The best thing to do is just accept this without taking it personally or getting frustrated. Because that is ironically when Scorpio will be more likely to reveal more. ------------------
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DopGang
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posted September 30, 2016 11:27 AM
^^^
Yes. I agree.
I'm only 12th, so it's different than Scorpio obviously but similar in that I can be evasive of things that I don't want to reveal. I can even get mad or just be rude.
Like leadership at work. They come by, "have any plans for the weekend?" Man, I'm ice cold, very vague. I just want to tell them, "don't get all buddy with me when you'll slit my throat in your office if I looked like I could possibly break a company standard. F##k you." I can't of course. Not if I want to remain employed.  IP: Logged |
Selenite
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posted September 30, 2016 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
I don't see why it makes him dishonest. Maybe he is just not comfortable enough with you yet to share those feelings. And maybe he feels some subtle pressure or expectation to share when he is not ready to or wanting to go there yet. That can drive a Scorpio person away fast.
I agree with that. Some people just don't get it for some reason. Not everyone is comfortable barring their souls to others right away (or ever). Sometimes I feel like saying, "No, you can't have me. You don't get to know me just because you feel like it. I need to trust you." Of course I don't say that (in words).
But I feel like, "if only your approach was different, we could be friends, but since you obviously don't respect my boundaries then I will just run and save us both the trouble."
Though I'm probably more sensitive to that kind of thing than the average person bc of past unhealthy relationships. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted September 30, 2016 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by Kiimberly:
My boyfriend is heavily scorpio. Sun/Pluto/Venus/Merc in 4h Scorp, pluto conj sun conj IC. With this placement it means Taurus is his MC and Leo his ASC. Both considered less darkly intense signs, generally. He has a Leo moon, too. He masks EVERYTHING with humor. There is no being serious with this guy, sometimes I am successful, but an amazing ability to deflect everything with a joke so funny you actually forget he's being a big fake and not letting on how he really feels. I pick my battles with that stuff. But there's definitely no changing it.To be fair to Pluto and Scorpio, he's nearly got a fixed grand cross (he would if you count the midheaven as a placement): moon in leo conj asc, mars in aquarius conj dc, sun and pluto in scorpio conj ic and a taurus midheaven. So that may have something to do with his personality hehe
That is his moon in Leo. I love that combo btw sun in Scorpio with moon in Leo, love their sense of humor.
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Yanmorg
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posted October 01, 2016 11:03 AM
I've noticed this too but it's only with the males instead of the females. I believe it has something to do with control and maintaining the power of intensity in the union.IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91
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posted October 01, 2016 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
I've noticed this too but it's only with the males instead of the females. I believe it has something to do with control and maintaining the power of intensity in the union.
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hypatia238
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posted October 01, 2016 03:11 PM
If you have a Scorpio stellium falling in an air house or mutable house I imagine they will be a lot more light hearted.The same goes with a sun in Scorpio with a moon sign in air or fire. There are all these other factors to consider. Being a Scorpio or having a Scorpio stellium does not automatically mean that you will fit the Scorpio archetype.
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CosmiqPhuz
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posted October 01, 2016 03:12 PM
Having Scorpio placements can make me feel like the beast from "Beauty and the Beast" sometimes. It's nice to be not the beast once in awhile, haha. Not necessarily fake, but just to take life a little more lightheartedly. Then again, maybe those guys are being fake. A lot of them usually are when they're trying to impress people... IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91
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posted October 01, 2016 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Then again, maybe those guys are being fake. A lot of them usually are when they're trying to impress people...
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theunknown
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posted October 01, 2016 07:22 PM
Because they can be lighthearted ... This whole Scorpio = dark and gloom isn't true.... IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted October 01, 2016 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by DopGang:
Many of them that I know are hilarious.
I was also thinking that maybe they reserve that side of them for a few.
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hypatia238
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posted October 01, 2016 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Scorpio doesn't always mean serious, I think. Deep feeling, yes. Intense and extreme, yes. But not humorless or stoic. I would consider their ascendant signs too, since that can be a big part of what you're seeing.
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polkadotstars
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posted October 02, 2016 11:05 AM
Pluto is my dominant planet but I am a Leo ascendant. I think the Pluto comes out in observing others, studying them, and having many thoughts internally. I'm still a happy and sunny person, thanks to that Leo ascendant. Us plutonians reserve our deeper thoughts to those closest to us. Just yesterday I was talking to my boyfriend about how I study people. There were a group of teenage girls and I was observing them, their dynamics, studying their individual and group interactions, and their social awkwardness of being a teenager but trying their hardest to mask it by putting on a "cool" front. I sound like a total weirdo for being so observational, and that is why I don't tell everyone about it lol. IP: Logged |
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