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soren Knowflake Posts: 1271 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012	posted October 03, 2016 01:04 PM Ok. 13.5/24 = 0.5625 x 360 = 202.5 degrees clockwise from your ascendent. You must have been born more near the summer months. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1271 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012	posted October 03, 2016 01:07 PM Look at this picture. The original Asc is correct. The actual horizon is shown as it is placed over the eclitpic ring (circle). This horizon paired with the eclpitic ring is how it would look in real life. The asc/dsc points are calculated from where the Horizon crosses the eclpitic. Which is NOT most of the time, exactly opposite to the asc. All of these chart calculators- by their own system of houses and standards- have a rule that the descendent always is dierectly opposite to the ascendent. IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4846 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014	posted October 03, 2016 01:11 PM So what would be my descendant if I have scorpio rising at 17d according to your calculations?? Aries or Pisces? IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1271 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012	posted October 03, 2016 01:12 PM I cant tell. I'd need to do the calculation as its different for each place of birth. But it is a real point- where the sun falls below the horizon. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1271 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012	posted October 03, 2016 01:30 PM Anyone wanna know where my official descendent (if my calculations were correct) is located? I'll give you a hint. It makes everything seem magicaler : O. I'm amazed tbh. If i find out my calculations are 100% accurate (I'm pretty sure they might be?) then I'm just going to reflect back on my life. It's conjunct my jupiter by 2 degrees. Before it was 13.5 degrees below my jupiter. Wowzaaa!!! I'm glad find out where your special sunset point is too! Follow my initial calculations! I hope you all find this point as it would be relating exactly on the eclpitic and the horizon. Eg: a part of your chart configuration. Squares. Angles. Aspects to it. What it all means. Power plays IP: Logged
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2987 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015	posted October 03, 2016 01:40 PM quote: Originally posted by soren: Ok. 13.5/24 = 0.5625 x 360 = 202.5 degrees clockwise from your ascendent. You must have been born more near the summer months. So my Pisces dsc at 28.xx degrees (virgo asc 28.xx) Now means that my dsc is roughly 6 Pisces? IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1271 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012	posted October 03, 2016 01:41 PM Yup. Just like you saw on the youtube link I posted. More of the eclpitic ring was above the horizon than below it. IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4846 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014	posted October 03, 2016 01:44 PM quote: Originally posted by soren: I cant tell. I'd need to do the calculation as its different for each place of birth. But it is a real point- where the sun falls below the horizon. The Caribbean, Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo. IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4846 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014	posted October 03, 2016 01:45 PM quote: Originally posted by DopGang: So my Pisces dsc at 28.xx degrees (virgo asc 28.xx) Now means that my dsc is roughly 6 Pisces? Wow your AC is exact on my Sun IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1271 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012	posted October 03, 2016 01:47 PM Hypatia: Sun rises at 7:06 at your area of birth. Hold on. your sun sets at 6:41. Difference of the 2 times: 695 minutes. = 11.6 hours. 11.6/24 =0.483 times that by 360 = 173.75 degrees clockwise from your ascendant. check it out!!!! Oh. I might have messed up. Your Sun is at 28 degrees pisces? I thought you meant the new 6 At your time of place during the time of year where a certain amount of the eclpitic is above and more is below the horizon, at 28 degrees pisces, the sun sets at 6:48. hold on. and it rises at 6:48. haha my bad. its right beside aries point!! (i think during aries point, both sides of the zodiac on earth are equal?, therefore they rise and set at the same time; balance. equal days with equal nights. equivelent amoutns of the eclpitic above and below the horizon.( IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4846 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014	posted October 03, 2016 01:52 PM edited out. IP: Logged
Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 1100 From: Registered: Jun 2015	posted October 03, 2016 02:00 PM the89freespirit Im not attracted to my 5th/7th/8th houses! IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4846 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014	posted October 03, 2016 02:12 PM quote: Originally posted by soren: Hypatia: Sun rises at 7:06 at your area of birth. Hold on. your sun sets at 6:41. Difference of the 2 times: 695 minutes. = 11.6 hours. 11.6/24 =0.483 times that by 360 = 173.75 degrees clockwise from your ascendant. check it out!!!! Oh. I might have messed up. Your Sun is at 28 degrees pisces? I thought you meant the new 6 At your time of place during the time of year where a certain amount of the eclpitic is above and more is below the horizon, at 28 degrees pisces, the sun sets at 6:48. hold on. and it rises at 6:48. haha my bad. its right beside aries point!! (i think during aries point, both sides of the zodiac on earth are equal?, therefore they rise and set at the same time; balance. equal days with equal nights. equivalent amoutns of the eclpitic above and below the horizon.( so in my case I will still have taurus in my DC then? I have sun in Virgo @28d and Moon in Pisces @20d. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1271 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012	posted October 03, 2016 02:12 PM quote: Originally posted by DopGang: So my Pisces dsc at 28.xx degrees (virgo asc 28.xx) Now means that my dsc is roughly 6 Pisces? Oops not sure if you made a typo or not, but all ASC calculations are correct from the website's calculating. It's the dsc which is automatically by their standards calculated to the exact opposite point. Your new DSC is at 6 degrees Virgo. Your asc is the same. If you can't wrap your mind around that they dont have to be opposite to one another; look at the picture at the top of this page. Edit: Nvm Sorry My brain you typed it correct. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1271 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012	posted October 03, 2016 02:15 PM quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: so in my case I will still have taurus in my DC then? I have sun in Virgo @28d and Moon in Pisces @20d. Yes. Sun is above ground for 12 hours. 12/24 = 0.5. 0.5x360 =180. 180 degrees from ascendant. IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4846 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014	posted October 03, 2016 02:17 PM quote: Originally posted by soren: Yes. Good bc that fits lol .... But yes I see the value of what you are bringing to the table with this thread now, I imagine for some folks it would make a lot more sense once they correct the DC. Like DP might be like "I do tend to attract Pisces around 6d and not so much Pisces in late degrees." IP: Logged
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3082 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted October 03, 2016 02:19 PM quote: Originally posted by Empty Spaces: the89freespirit Im not attracted to my 5th/7th/8th houses! you have to check the rulers of these houses. You will more likely than not be attracted to people touching these planets, or triggering your mars/venus IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1271 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012	posted October 03, 2016 02:19 PM Yes but i noticed I attract people who are the same degree of my asc. but thats just one side. now i know i probably attract this new dsc degree too. thanks for listening. IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4846 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014	posted October 03, 2016 02:22 PM quote: Originally posted by theunknown: you have to check the rulers of these houses. You will more likely than not be attracted to people touching these planets, or triggering your mars/venus haha the ruler of my 5th is neptune and I love it when a guy's mars or venus conjuncts my neptune and to top it off end up trining my venus and mars, my two most fulfilling sexual relationships involve a guy's mars conjuncting ruler of my 5th and a guy's venus conjuncting ruler of my 5th and both end up also trining my venus and mars...they made me feel so high! Still care about both of them. IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4846 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014	posted October 03, 2016 02:24 PM quote: Originally posted by soren: Yes but i noticed I attract people who are the same degree of my asc. but thats just one side. now i know i probably attract this new dsc degree too. thanks for listening. oh yeah I am very attracted to people that conjunct my AC or DC but also my IC actually and I am very attracted to people with strong venus and I have Taurus in the DC. IP: Logged
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2987 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015	posted October 03, 2016 02:25 PM quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Wow your AC is exact on my Sun My mars also, pretty much. (27.44) Mercury is less than 5 degrees from that. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1271 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012	posted October 03, 2016 02:26 PM If my theory is correct- you'd be more attracted to that specific degree than most. Because most wont have both asc/dsc at the same degree. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1271 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012	posted October 03, 2016 03:57 PM There's no getting around this: Chart calculations are wrong. All of them. Input "Dikson" (a northern lattitude town) into astrotheme. Go to a year where there are planets in the upper right quadrant of the chart. Keep on moving the time ahead by an hour. The sun will move above the horizon by 50 degrees and then it will receed back and cross the ascendant from which it came. Those are the only parts that the ecliptic is above the horizon. Yet the upper right quadrant will have planets being above the "descendent" shown in the chart. I thought it was a well known common thing where any planets above both the asc/dsc axis, were considered above the horizon. In the youtube video i posted; nearly all the planets were below the horizon. The same thing goes for the "Dikson" chart- yet the chart itself doesnt account for that. If they showed the true eclpitic descension point below the horizon- then people could actually see when a planet was going beneath the horizon. But no chart on the planet does this. IP: Logged
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2987 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015	posted October 03, 2016 04:01 PM Edit: still thinking. Will need to look into IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1271 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012	posted October 03, 2016 04:06 PM The chart gets wonky the higher the declination of the town in respect to earth. EG town higher from the equator. But the point is the chart is completely false. Guess what. It's not the only one that's falsley calculating planets above/ below the horizon when they often arent. This is what this sunset point will reveal. It's also a powerful/potent energy spot and anything conjunct it is extremely powerful. As it is the horizon. Crossing the Ecliptic. We take into account the part where the ecliptic rises above the horizon, but not the point where it descends below it? ... IP: Logged

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