posted October 03, 2016 02:24 PM            

About this aspect, in general?

Thanks xxxx

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posted October 03, 2016 05:07 PM            

My dad has his Sun conjunct Mars in Virgo 1H, his Mercury is also conjunct.

Between the two of us, I'd say my dad displays more of the true Martian characteristics, he also has his moon in Aries, he's very temperamental and agressive in his expression. He's intense to say the least and gets very fixated and passionate about specific plans/ideas he's working on. He's very restless and has tons of energy, he prides himself on his toughness and is pretty accident prone and reckless. He's super competitive and when he's anoyed he gets really critically harsh and sacarstic, he is very satirical, and is really argumentative at times, some people do not know how to handle him, he can be verbally mean when he's agitated and I think that contributes to the conjunction in Virgo, he says things that he later regrets which kind of similar to his temperament, he flairs up and instantly is over it, he doesn't often hold a grudge unless someone steals from him or something (Venus conjunct Neptune 2H) He's a super active person, loves the outdoors, building stuff/architecture, he loves motor sports and extremes sports in general, he's an extreme person!! . I feel like Mars/Aries makes him very fiery and individualistic, there's something about him that's very true to him, like he's really easy to read and straightforward, I don't want to say "innocent" but he has a child like lovability that's very open. He is a warrior 100% !!! He loves fighting, not so much anymore, but he use to box, do martial arts, loves MMA, was a ranger in the marines and was a sniper, he loves guns/weapons and watches lots of action packed films lol

posted October 03, 2016 05:29 PM            

Gonna study what you wrote!

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posted October 04, 2016 02:27 AM            

I think Mars to a planet can have it become defensive combative and competitive. It can also be obsessed with strength i.e either physical(muscle), mental or emotional etc.

Mars is like a knife to me and sort of "sharpens" the planet in aspect to it. So there is some narrow minded or at-least a "tunnel vision" approach to things. But also can make one actively look for challenges to master or motivated to "overcome" difficulties.

In his case, he is excessively bright but very competitive and argumentative. He always wants everything to be about him(also has Leo Asc that accentuates his Aries Sun) and finds me irritating as i dont conform to him

In men, it can increase the whole "macho man" approach or give them and a preoccupation with being a "man" i.e am i "man" enough? Am i brave enough or sexually potent enough? etc. Sort of a fratman, footballer, hyper masculine (if extreme) sort of mentality.

In women, it can certainly attract them to fields that are "male" dominated or give them more "male" associated personality characteristics.

Even in "sorority sisterhood", there could a clear "alpha female" whose influence dominates and whom little must ever be questioned.

I actually think that women are far more domineering and aggressive than males. But that is just my opinion. And this aspect is more about domination and powering "over" someone and has some Scorpio undertones to it.

The Sun is indicative of the relationship with the authority figure(not necessarily male)and may be subject to periodic fluctuations with aspects between Mars and Sun.But indifference is certainly not likely.

There could be some competition,rebellion or trying to "outdo" the authority figure in some way.

The individual may even desire to do their own thing -far from the authority figures teachings that may surpass or contradict what they have been taught by them.

Having children that have a martial personality is likely or atleast those of Aries-like characteristics boys/girls who will challenge them or assert their own independence from the parental figure for various reasons.

This is sort of like a circle completion as the virtues of strength, independence,combat or winning etc. are deeply entrenched in the personality and identity of the person.

posted October 04, 2016 06:48 AM            

Another very interesting thing I noticed about a man with this position (because I was involved with him for quite some time), was that people always seemed to be asking him for directions.

Lol I remember that once we were together in a foreign country, and even though he was a tourist himself, all other tourists were asking him for addresses! The way they walk is as if they know exactly the direction they're heading to, even though they may not really have a clue!

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posted October 04, 2016 10:37 AM            

The harsh aspects (square, opposition), can bring a certain defensiveness. Perceived slights earn a sort of knee-jerk reaction from them, when the other person probably didn’t mean any harm.
The conjunction, trine & sextile are more comfortable in their own skin. As people have mentioned before, comfortable pursuing what they want. Because it doesn't necessarily clash with "who they are".

Mars in any aspect does bring a desire to “win” at whatever it is the planet person is doing. On the plus side, this means once they decide they want something, they will go into it full-swing. These folks really follow through on their intentions. Mars gives both the impetus and the energy. And yes, like Aries23Degrees said, it makes “strength” of any sort very important. These people likely don’t tolerate excuses from themselves (and in some cases, others) for not getting things done. Obstacle? Bulldoze the damn thing. They don’t like anything standing in their way. They are not easily put off by the prospect of butting heads against brick walls. All in a day’s work. Walls were made to be torn.

The downside, (and A23Degrees gave the exact word for it), is that they (we) tend to develop “tunnel vision” about whatever it is we’re trying to achieve. That single-minded (*ahem*, pig-headed) focus on the “I want this I want this I want this” can blot out other meaningful things. Which they usually realise in retrospect. As with all aspects, age & experience rounds it out a bit and they learn to not ignore everything else in favour of their object of desire.

On the plus side, they will almost always be “above board” – and their actions and intentions line up. Along with the drive to get things done, they have a very basic kind of honesty about it. Not afraid of putting their hat in the ring – may the best man win.

I think there were these personality types in Human Design called “generator”, “manifestor”, etc. These folks are generators. They like creating things, initiating, building, making something with their own hands. They’re go-getters – they won’t be passive, they won’t wait for things to come to them. They don’t expect things to be “handed” to them in any way.

posted October 04, 2016 10:41 AM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Another very interesting thing I noticed about a man with this position (because I was involved with him for quite some time), was that people always seemed to be asking him for directions.

Lol I remember that once we were together in a foreign country, and even though he was a tourist himself, all other tourists were asking him for addresses! The way they walk is as if they know exactly the direction they're heading to, even though they may not really have a clue!

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Haha!! This is very weird. Even weirder 'coz it happened to me too. Maybe just a coincidence. But after reading your post - maybe more?

I recently moved halfway across the world, for grad school. I'd only been here a week. And the people in this town, who've been living here for years, were asking me for directions.

Yeah, people always expect Sun-Mars folks to "lead the way" or initiate something.

posted October 04, 2016 10:43 AM            

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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
It's seriously depressing for me if I don't feel like I'm talented at what I do and not good at my job. I like responsibility and doing my job the best I can.

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posted October 04, 2016 11:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Mars in any aspect does bring a desire to “win” at whatever it is the planet person is doing. On the plus side, this means once they decide they want something, they will go into it full-swing. These folks really follow through on their intentions. Mars gives both the impetus and the energy. And yes, like Aries23Degrees said, it makes “strength” of any sort very important. These people likely don’t tolerate excuses from themselves (and in some cases, others) for not getting things done. Obstacle? Bulldoze the damn thing. They don’t like anything standing in their way. They are not easily put off by the prospect of butting heads against brick walls. All in a day’s work. Walls were made to be torn.

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Perfectly said!! It resonates with me very much so.

posted October 04, 2016 12:59 PM            

I think this conjunction is the root of my problems with anger. 1 minute everything is fine, the next minute i'm being super aggressive. And when I have a goal or want something (or someone) really badly, I can turn obsessive. If I have a problem of any kind, I want to fix it right here, right now.

posted October 04, 2016 05:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Hmm ^ me too. I thought this was my Saturn squares?

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Could be, my sun/Mars/merc are in the 6H and they do make a square to Saturn in the 9th.

posted October 04, 2016 08:35 PM            

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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
Could be, my sun/Mars/merc are in the 6H and they do make a square to Saturn in the 9th.

Typically my work is up and down, I want to do really good but I get insecure every so often and doubt myself. I get so scattered, one day my routine is down, the other I'm all over the place. I worry all the time if coworkers like me and sometimes I can be standoffish and short, so working with others can be difficult at times, it's hard, I want to get along but my temper makes me push people away..

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I can identify with the insecurity part of it for sure. The rest - that is most likely the 6th house personal planets squared by a 9th house Saturn.

You know, it's my Sun-Merc-Mars stellium too (I'm using the term a bit loosely here) that's squared by Saturn!

I guess the learning curve with Saturn squares is a bit steeper, at least until & during our first Saturn return. Have you had yours yet? I haven't learned to cope with those Saturn squares myself, but I'm trying..and hoping that those efforts pay off during the first Saturn return (ha!).

It can be a real pain if it's squaring a cluster of personal planets, 'coz your Sun-Mars conjunction will want to take a swipe at things, go full steam ahead. And Saturn will kind of pull you back and make you second-guess every damn thing.

Appearing standoffish - that happens to me too, irl. It's the Merc-Saturn square. We swallow most of our words, and they don't see the light of day. Being "hesitant", especially in the early stages of communicating with someone can make us seem aloof. Even if we are talkative, usually..the vibe they get is "quiet and uninterested". One of my friends used to say trying to get answers from me is like pulling teeth. Ouch. But I see where he's coming from. Does that happen to you? Like, you want to participate more fully in the conversation, but just *can't* until you feel more comfortable?

posted October 04, 2016 08:56 PM            

Why wouldn't Sun conj Mars be the same with a dad?

Maybe, the Moon is a feminine planet/yin and Mars is a masculine planet/yang.

Any thoughts?

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posted October 05, 2016 03:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:

once they decide they want something, they will go into it full-swing. These folks really follow through on their intentions. Mars gives both the impetus and the energy. And yes, like Aries23Degrees said, it makes “strength” of any sort very important. These people likely don’t tolerate excuses from themselves (and in some cases, others) for not getting things done. Obstacle? Bulldoze the damn thing. They don’t like anything standing in their way. They are not easily put off by the prospect of butting heads against brick walls. All in a day’s work. Walls were made to be torn.

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I can identify with this. i hate when people gives excuses (i.e. I am too old, too poor, too etc) to follow a dream. when i hear these comments i get angry. I get annoyed when people feel victim of circumstances rather than using them to build their character and strenght. I see obstacles as a way to strenghten my will.

posted October 05, 2016 08:03 PM            

That being said, she is very good at accomplishing things. She is a great taskmaster, and has tons of energy to get things done. She will not stop until something is complete. It's hard for me to be objective because she and I have opposite Mars, opposite Mercuries, and all kinds of other troubles. I get along well with her these days, but growing up with her was bumpy. She doesn't bend well to others. In fact, she does this to my Dad too. He just goes along with most of what she says because it is easier.