posted October 05, 2016 01:28 AM            

There is 3 men. The first man smoked ciggarrets. Never showered. Over ate all the time. Smelled terrible.

The second man never exercised. Constantly was late for his job. Couldn't hold a job. Basically sounding like someone undesirable.

The third man got perfect grades. Went to college. Held a good job.

The first man was George Washington. The second man was Winston Churchill (none of this is accurate but similar). The third man was Hitler.

Nevermind the message. I was thinking the first two men did what they did because they lived out of love. Forget about that whole message of that story. Lets re-work it so the 3rd person is a spiritualist. They practice meditation. They are kind to others. They donate money to charity.
The third man is a divine spiritualist.

I was just thinking. What's the different between the 3rd man, and the first two? The first two live for love. The third one had different values. He might still be considered great. There are many people who might worship the first two. The people who would suggest that the first 2 were more mentionable than the third, the people who would say that- they themselves are likely similar to the first two. Which is why they would create and look upon the story for pleasure and reassurance. Because these people likely live for love. It's a value.

The spiritualist likely lives for divinity. Pureness. And there are likely 1000's of people that look to that man as a good example. Yet these people would have differing values- more watery. Spiritualistc, helping the world become a more nicer happier place for all.

Now there is not a story worshiping these people that we are close to. But there likely is stories out there. And it's likely that the people who spread stories of the spiritualists, the story we aren't hearing about, likely have similar values to the spiritualist and thus perhaps more water in their chart. As we watch the video of the 2 men about how "loving" and "rugged" they were. There is also stories happening that we aren't currently in touch with, of spiritualists. But the people who were more "loving" and "rough" themselves, made that story above.

So I realize perhaps what it comes down to is kind of the elements. Fire people, as I feel, are more reckless, unempathetic, rugged, rough. Spiritual people are likely more clean- people with more water. I might be wrong- just speaking off of what you'd expect. Caring, meditation.

So it's like fire is love. Pleasure. Comfort. Enjoyment. So the stories followed by fire people and made by fire people potentially would be about these rough reckless people and how much they accomplished while being the way they loved.

Stories followed and perhaps made by Earth people would be stories about hard workers. They are connected to the physical. They would look up to the hard working people they hear about and they themselves would contain that value.

Air is intellectual pursuit.

posted October 05, 2016 08:41 AM            

Actually being presentable to someone else is a way of showing love.

But I see what you're getting at....

I think we tend to value ourselves according to what we are best at, and put an emphasis there, sometimes neglecting other areas, as our sense of self-worth is not as contingent on those other areas.

Well no one can be great at everything.

posted October 05, 2016 09:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
You can live for love and still shower.

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posted October 05, 2016 11:01 AM            

I have Venus in Virgo. Showering is never up for debate. In fact, love, to me, is like a really good shower. It makes you feel all clean and brand new.

But I think I am getting off topic...

posted October 05, 2016 01:36 PM            

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Do you think it's true, that when someone idolizes someone- per say, their hard work. That that person themselves- likely has perhaps Earth in their charts.

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posted October 05, 2016 03:35 PM            

But then I was thinking and it made me think about who each person personally idolizes, and thought maybe it was something similar to being based off the elements, if you idolize someone who is spiritual, then maybe you have water. But I realize every element has love. Love is merely harmony in the universe that we feel. Maybe it feels different for each element. Maybe it doesn't. Is it true some signs like lack of fire, experience life in a much more cold, realistic, harsh way(water)? I thought their love was more like a divine sacrid relationship with life(water mixed with little fire). I might be wrong. Based off a progression I had which made me think if anyone had a more extreme one- they'd be living a completely different scope on life than me, born with more air+Sun and 2 planets in the first.

But thanks for responding. Thanks Selenite. Yeah you didn't have to say how you showered hahahaha

@Faith. I disagree

posted October 05, 2016 07:25 PM            

As for water, again - slightly different from 'spirituality', the word I'd go for is 'emotion' - the intangible-but-deeply-meaningful gestures are the ones that get them.

About the air signs, I agree - you can whip us all into a frenzy with nothing but a bunch of ideas. For air signs, that's soul food.

With the earth signs, the very opposite of water (in this case) - tangible results, even if modest, will impress them way more.

Say a bunch of air signs are discussing the building of a new type of sky-scraper. With a never-before-seen solar-powered facade that tells you the weather, stock market, the bestsellers of this week and what-have-you. The whole building could pack itself up at the end of the day (yeah, totally random, but what the hell, the whole thing is so random). Now, they would appreciate each other as they add on progressively shinier ideas to their imaginary sky-scraper. All of them would come back from that conversation with a smile on their face and a twinkle in their eye...someday, they think.
If an earth sign or two were to drop into the conversation.. They would either smile politely through it, or just plain roll their eyes - depending on how good friends they are with the air fellas. They'd come back from that conversation thinking "what a load o' hooey. Them no-gooders wouldn't know an honest day's work if it stared them in the face." They go back to the bar, to have a drink. And one of them quietly talks about the wonderful deal he got on a piece of land, where he's planning to build his own boat shop. He says construction is going great, only two months in and the walls are up. The other two murmur their approval, and take a swig of beer. Their interest is aroused, and they ask to see the blueprints of the place, which he happens to have in his briefcase...

posted October 05, 2016 07:51 PM            

Yeah you get what I mean. We take interest in different things depending on our elements.

I would never be interested in blue prints. But maybe Earth signs would

I think what would be really interesting that you made me think, is what if there was a television show, showcasing the 4 elements. We'd have to pick someone who was VERY STRONG in each element. Like not just in the signs, but in the houses. Like have one guy who is a leo sun, in the first, with a sag moon. Like super strong in an element. Even the planets. Have one person extremely strong in a certain element, have 4 people, and have 4 new people on the show every episode. Then we'd learn how each element interacts.