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soren
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posted October 13, 2016 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Earth's yearly orbit around the sun- Creates an energy ring

Earth's rotation- equator- energy ring.

Sun's movement in the sky- never aligned with the ring that is permanently around earth from the earth's yearly orbit

The Horizon. A powerful physical ring. If we had a thousand rocks circling around our planet- that would be a ring too. The motion and the movements of the rocks would create one. I'm sure saturn has a couple extra zodiacs from it's.

The Confusion of the houses: The houses have nothing to do with the yearly ecliptic. I mean not Placidus. The houses are the cross sections of the sun's daily path, which is not the yearly one, they are completely not aligned ever. That path is fixed to your local horizon wherever it rose and followed along during the sky. The point where it rose, is the "daily" ascendant. And where it set is the daily descendant. And the path which would be above the horizon, is houses 6-12. Well- I don't even know. Seeing as they are 1 circle that isn't even centered around, and they cross and non-opposing places, who knows if it does anything.
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Then there are a few more zodiacs. All you have to do is think of the energy rings around us. It takes 2 to begin

The sun's yearly path with the horizon would create 2 perfect rings centered around us. Equal houses. Yes it's a proven fact now as I speak it

Next there is the equator. The equator crosses the horizon. Well it doesn't actually cross our local horizon. Which stresses the brain and makes you think is it really a zodiac if its not even centered?? As all charts are taken from the location of the center of earth, where the equator crosses.

Yet the signs on a planet scale all do encompass us. They encompass everything on the planet. In fact I found it interesting how certain parts of the planet are in a sign, including your area of birth. Which I believe is the sign square the ascendant. So that means your actual physical body was in Scorpio for example from the Earth's perspective. Yet I always thought astrology was center based. Maybe it is

Anyway. The sun's daily motion is nearly never centered around us. The arctic sun would be an example stays at the same angle all day making a circle directly over head. Should we calculate houses based on that?

Maybe they are created but I think it would have to intersect something, and even then, who knows. Anyway I found from my progressions that Placidus is accurate. But so are equal houses I found. They both exist- near similar places but misaligned.

Anyway this is all just clarifying. The one's we know there are a zodiac for entirely sure would be where 2 giant rings are perfectly balanced around the observer

Then the next house system, which surprisingly is already in use but they likely don't know why is the solar chart. It is actually where the sun lies, since the sun always lies on its daily orbit around, and it always lies on its yearly ecliptic that the sun marks where these 2 rings cross. However it will be a similar scenario to the Placidus houses, where the points they cross aren't opposite, which I don't know how to further calculate that. But at least you'll know where anything close to the sun is. And that means everyone has their own sun on the 1st/12th cusp of a set of signs. We are all cusp babies : O

Actually I have 2 major clues to map both placidus (which apparently is wrong based off logic, where the descendent really lies, where the sun's path goes below) and where it is for the solar chart (daily path + yearly)

If you use astrotheme, find the time the any planet rose and count how many exact hours and minutes from when it set. Divide that by 24 which is figuring out how much percent of its orbit circle is above and below and multiply by 360 to change it to degrees.

Ok In the top center model the sun lets say was only above the horizon for 11 hours. Making it have around 165 degrees above the horizon (its circle path). Although The path isn't centered around us so it won't be 165/360 degrees, but at least it gives us a rough estimate. Plus for anyone + or - 40 degrees from the equator, we are still getting probably like 320+

So I used the sun rise to make it easier. Remember the 2 paths always intersect/begin at the sun since the sun is what creates the daily path, and the actual ecliptic (yearly path) is moving, but the daily path is fixed.

So since it only got 11 hours of sky time, using the sun at the horizon to make it easier to see with our eyes where both the daily path is, and the yearly path is (which at a different time of day wouldn't be at the same spot on the horizon because it moves)

From this we can see how the orange daily path gets less of its trail above the horizon, and a bigger trail below. Since they both begin at the sun, i made the sun on the horizon so we can see how the daily path is shorter above the horizon. From this example we can see the likely whereabouts of their intersection!

Move on to the bottom -> right. This is more harder to see. But it's a similar time of year where the sun makes a bit less path above the horizon than below. So from where it is (around 23 degrees below the horizon) we know it's trail is going to be less than the 180 degrees yearly ecliptic. So draw your own path here if you want to try to get an approximate cross section of where the rings cross.

The bottom <-- left is a time of year where the sun gets more distance above the horizon. Think that if the sun were conjunct the descendant, that the 2 rings would be touching and the other side of the orange ring would expand further than the blue ring. But if the sun were located at the ascendant, the rings would touch at the ascendant, and the orange ring would expand further on the other side of the blue. So that way we know, as the sun is closer to the descendant that the orange ring starts moving a little bit closer to how it will be when the sun eventually moves a bit closer

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soren
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posted October 13, 2016 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you can calculate the rough whereabouts of the start and ending points which show us where Aries/Libra begins. All the house cusps will be roughly equally spaced just as Placidus cusps are equally spaced apart in reality but they appear slanted because we view them from a birds eye view of the ecliptic which wouldn't be looking at them face-front

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