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posted October 13, 2016 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol. But seriously some other user said we give off a troublesome vibe that attracts people that are looking for trouble. I don`t understand why we give off this vibe though? With me i have attracted men a few times that are in relationships with women they have lost their feelings for a long time ago but they are stuck and wants some excitement in their love lives again.

btw I have never done anything with these men.

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posted October 13, 2016 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always experienced men pursuing me (even when I wore a fake wedding ring and lied about being already married, I still endured pushy males, and I realized that I just made myself even MORE attractive to some men), and I know at least a few of them were married or such. I think lots of married men cheat, and I know plenty of married women look for excitement and such from outside their marriage as well (maybe it's why I attracted certain men when I wore the fake wedding ring, they had success with that in the past).

Though interesting enough, I was invited to a threesome by a husband AND wife. They both asked me at the same time, and I believe they both were sincere about it. We went to the same fitness club, and both were fine looking specimens for their respective gender, so it's not that they needed a pretty face for them to get into it again (though I expect adding me would still be a bit of spice for something getting a little stale, a little adventure and new anticipations to counter the predictability). We'd also talked for a long while, though not that deeply (I can barely recall what led up to the offer), and I liked them both as casual friends. That was one of the rare moments I was actually intrigued the idea (but then I had gotten comfortable with them both, as opposed to the many strangers trying to get into my pants), but I sincerely regretted telling them no as I was in a monogamous relationship (even as my own partner who championed monogamy as the only way to be was cheating behind my back, but I wouldn't find that out for awhile yet--and it's not that she was bored with me because she fought like hell to keep me when I said it was over).

I suspect I do give off a certain vibe that many can feel (or at least pick up on subconsciously) my packed 5H Sag (that includes Eros along with moon-Mars-Uranus-Neptune) sextile to 3H sun and stellium that includes Pluto (and Venus).

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posted October 13, 2016 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha you scandalous ladies.

But seriously, Venus-Pluto energy does give a person a "forbidden fruit" kind of appeal. The messed up thing about this placement is that the person can be more attractive to the other when either the Venus-Pluto individual is somehow unavailable or unattainable or when the other is unavailable or unattainable. But its important, if you have this placement, to stop and wonder if you are possibly attracting this kind of drama into your life.

It can be applicable to men and women with this placement, of course. In a situation with a male and a Venus-Pluto female, it can be especially powerful. But I am not big on gender attachments to the planets.

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posted October 13, 2016 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Readytochill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sure hope not

I have been told that I look like trouble. A random guy actually said that when I was with one of my guy friends that really liked me and told him to watch out for me. All I did was walk into the building while eating my delicious frozen yogurt and I got that reaction! How exactly? I wouldn't know.

I'm still confused when I read on here that we Venus/Pluto attract unavailable people, like do we just have this magnet that attracts these taken people or what? I do believe it might be a certain look we give out though.

What look can I give to attract single men? Lol

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posted October 13, 2016 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Readytochill:
I sure hope not

I have been told that I look like trouble. A random guy actually said that when I was with one of my guy friends that really liked me and told him to watch out for me. All I did was walk into the building while eating my delicious frozen yogurt and I got that reaction! How exactly? I wouldn't know.

I'm still confused when I read on here that we Venus/Pluto attract unavailable people, like do we just have this magnet that attracts these taken people or what? I do believe it might be a certain look we give out though.

What look can I give to attract single men? Lol


Haha Pluto energy is actually at its sexiest and most attractive when the person is not trying to be sexy. Its like the sex appeal functions best when it's as much of a mystery to the Plutonian.

So just keep eating your frozen yogurt and the men will continue to flock your way.

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posted October 13, 2016 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptunicity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed the opposite though. The Venus-Pluto person seems attracted to taboo stuff and mistresses. I know one that's secretly interested in me. I don't see them as the forbidden fruit at all, maybe because I don't have that aspect and I'm not interested.

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posted October 13, 2016 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RogueReader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TL;DR Wahhhh, too many people are attracted to me!

Oh em gee, guys! This is the most perfectly timed post I've ever encountered in my time here. I am a Venus-Pluto female (Aqua Sun, Libra Rising, Cap Moon, 6H Pisces Venus). I could really use added perspective and advice, so please add to the thread. It's moments like this where I'm especially grateful for this LL community .

I actually signed on weary and watery-eyed about a culmination of all the scenarios so many posters have described. The Venusian/Plutonian aesthetic is supposedly legendary (and advantageous?), but man, it feels like a burden when you carry that essence as a woman. Men get wildly attracted to us and overstep boundaries. It gets creepy really quickly.

I've encountered all of the themes others have mentioned: Imposing, taken men. Obsessive and taboo attractions sent my way. I always turn them down, even when I might find myself initially attracted (before learning they're in established bonds). I'm big on monogamy and loyalty, so I'm actually super offended to even be considered as mistress material!!! Yet, these shady propositions come my way. It makes me feel like a harlot, a **** , or a concubine. It makes my femininity (which I otherwise enjoy) seem more like a liability.

And lastly, it'll always baffle me how often I attract attention while minding my own business or even trying to go unnoticed. Sorry for the rant guys. It's rare that I can really rant about this without feeling like I sound narcissistic.

QUESTIONS: I don't get what it is about the supposed 24/7 sexy Plutonian "vibe". I love it when I'm going for a sensual look, but how do I turn this thing off?! What can be done to harness this energy and lose the taken creeps? Also, what could be the motivation to attract these troublesome scenarios, if that's the case? What's at the core of such a compulsion???

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posted October 14, 2016 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 14, 2016 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a female who has Venus square Pluto almost exact (0.12 deg.), you really can't get much more "Venus/Pluto" than that (add on my Scorpio Moon to boot).

I can tell you it does NOT always result in arising these creepy, obsessive tendencies in other men. I think that has more to do with how you carry yourself, what your "look" is, what type of "vibe" you put out and how you present yourself to the world on a daily basis.

I am about as "normal" as they come in terms of my appearance, how I dress and style myself and also how I present myself in public. I also am fairly quiet and keep to myself most of the time. As such, I don't unintentionally invite people (men) to become that "friendly" with me when I haven't given them any reason to approach me.

Let's face it, men are visual creatures. If you walk down the street and stand out in some way, either because you are drop dead gorgeous, are volumptuous/wearing revealing clothing, have something "unusual" about your look or are simply "vibing" the right way, someone will inevitably stare at you or try to approach you if possible. This is what initiates the attraction/conversation which then leads to any number of possibilities.

I think we have complete control over the situations we find ourselves in and perhaps even unintentionally we invite the types of people into our lives who would put us in these kinds of positions.

I'm only saying this because in 30 years of life, I have never had a man want to make me his "mistress" or anything like what has been described so far.

For me, it is much more of a PERSONAL struggle as my relationships have been nothing short of tumultuous so far, and I try every single day to NOT let my paranoid, suspicious feelings ruin what could otherwise be a great thing. It's constantly feeling like you're waiting for the other shoe to drop or that someone will inevitably let you down that is exhausting. To just trust and let go is almost impossible. I am also guilty of being a little obsessive and maybe even a little controlling in my relationships.

That is Venus/Pluto to me.

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posted October 14, 2016 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@margym0o i also have the square. I agree with a lot of what you said but i have attracted creeps long before i started wearing the clothes i wear. Since 6th grade i have had way older men that are looking for trouble hitting on me and checking me out and i was as "normal" and as simple as it could get when it came to my style back then. I was also a very shy and quiet girl. Even today i am still quiet and reserved and not very open. But i think someone said once that us venus/pluto folks can attract people that can cross boundaries with us and in my case that has been true no matter what i have had on and how i have acted around them. Actually most of these cases i have given clear signals that i have no interest whatsoever but its like they don`t want to see that.

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posted October 14, 2016 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Readytochill:
I sure hope not

I have been told that I look like trouble. A random guy actually said that when I was with one of my guy friends that really liked me and told him to watch out for me. All I did was walk into the building while eating my delicious frozen yogurt and I got that reaction! How exactly? I wouldn't know.

I'm still confused when I read on here that we Venus/Pluto attract unavailable people, like do we just have this magnet that attracts these taken people or what? I do believe it might be a certain look we give out though.

What look can I give to attract single men? Lol


I have gotten that too numerous of times throughout my life.

I have pluto chart ruler and venus conjunt mars in leo sextile pluto in the 12th and trine Neptune all applying and moon in Pisces.

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posted October 14, 2016 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Readytochill:
I sure hope not
I'm still confused when I read on here that we Venus/Pluto attract unavailable people, like do we just have this magnet that attracts these taken people or what? I do believe it might be a certain look we give out though.

What look can I give to attract single men? Lol


It seems like we do, lol. I wish i knew what look to give so i am not put into more awkward situations.

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posted October 14, 2016 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RogueReader:

Oh em gee, guys! This is the most perfectly timed post I've ever encountered in my time here. I am a Venus-Pluto female (Aqua Sun, Libra Rising, Cap Moon, 6H Pisces Venus). I could really use added perspective and advice, so please add to the thread. It's moments like this where I'm especially grateful for this LL community .

I actually signed on weary and watery-eyed about a culmination of all the scenarios so many posters have described. The Venusian/Plutonian aesthetic is supposedly legendary (and advantageous?), but man, it feels like a burden when you carry that essence as a woman. Men get wildly attracted to us and overstep boundaries. It gets creepy really quickly.

I've encountered all of the themes others have mentioned: Imposing, taken men. Obsessive and taboo attractions sent my way. I always turn them down, even when I might find myself initially attracted (before learning they're in established bonds). I'm big on monogamy and loyalty, so I'm actually super offended to even be considered as mistress material!!! Yet, these shady propositions come my way. It makes me feel like a harlot, a **** , or a concubine. It makes my femininity (which I otherwise enjoy) seem more like a liability.

And lastly, it'll always baffle me how often I attract attention while minding my own business or even trying to go unnoticed. Sorry for the rant guys. It's rare that I can really rant about this without feeling like I sound narcissistic.

QUESTIONS: I don't get what it is about the supposed 24/7 sexy Plutonian "vibe". I love it when I'm going for a sensual look, but how do I turn this thing off?! What can be done to harness this energy and lose the taken creeps? Also, what could be the motivation to attract these troublesome scenarios, if that's the case? What's at the core of such a compulsion???



I feel you gal. And good question 👍

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posted October 14, 2016 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarahhm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
venus conjunct pluto here.. no idea what you guys are talking about. never experienced anything like this.

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posted October 14, 2016 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sarahhm:
venus conjunct pluto here.. no idea what you guys are talking about. never experienced anything like this.

Yes. I have different ideas about it also but I don't feel like fighting.

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posted October 14, 2016 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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venus conjunct pluto here.. no idea what you guys are talking about. never experienced anything like this.


Then consider yourself very lucky to not have experienced this side of this aspect 👍

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posted October 14, 2016 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
does venus trine pluto 1' count?

I don't realize if it can give the vibe, but one thing I am very sure is that my friendship with my male friends will turn awkward after their women want to meet me and finally see me.

The one man I know who would love to have me as his other woman has sun conjunct mars in scorpio and scorpio venus. I can see how he loves the thrill and the trouble, crave the intensity of it. We started as a really good friend in 2 years then he pursues me in 8 years, he will buy me presents if he goes overseas and will leave his important meeting just to meet me although I do not want to meet him but he will always successfully manipulate the situation and find me. lol. Thanks to my self-control, I won't jump to marriage/in-relationship man just because he is super nice or how intense he is to get me. He is very good in manipulation that I almost always do what he wants me to but my venus in pisces is very good in "disappearing" too LOLOLOL

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posted October 14, 2016 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiOnfshh78     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus/mars conjunct pluto here;
Men look at me like I'm some kind of wild animal they would like to get in a ring with. I always attractive to the wrong men, nobody nice ever hits on me. Scorpio men usually are VERY attracted to me, but it never works out because I'm usually more intense than they are, they can't handle it. But all in all, I just want pure genuine love. So when I see a man look at me, like he would kiss the ground I walk on, I usually just keep walking now...

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posted October 14, 2016 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus/Pluto conjunction here.

There is an entire ocean what men think. With one look into my eyes they will recognize that I am a #1 and nothing minor .

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posted October 14, 2016 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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does venus trine pluto 1' count?

I don't realize if it can give the vibe, but one thing I am very sure is that my friendship with my male friends will turn awkward after their women want to meet me and finally see me.


Haha i have experienced something similar with guys i have befriended. But with me they are the ones that will turn awkward and sometimes get the wrong idea about me, like suddenly thinking i am into them just bc i like to hang and talk with them sometimes and they get awkward bc they don`t feel the same or its the other way around that they are starting to develop feelings for me and they start acting awkward bc of that.

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posted October 14, 2016 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarahhm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
now when i think about it - what are you guy's age range?

i'm in my early twenties and in university so a majority of the guys around me are still awkward turtles and insecure and i've been told that i look like i'd automatically turn them down if any of them tried to come up to me <- that usually follows the whole 'i'm surprised you're so sweet!'

but i now remember i once had a married man tell me about his past infidelity that lasted 10 years and ended it with.. 'you know, you remind me of her so much'

so maybe it's an age thing and in a decade or so ill be able to relate to your posts fellow venus/pluto sisters

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posted October 14, 2016 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I wonder how many women who DON'T have this aspect feel the same way?

I bet a lot.
I think this bridges over to a societal issue.

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posted October 14, 2016 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sarahhm:
now when i think about it - what are you guy's age range?

i'm in my early twenties and in university so a majority of the guys around me are still awkward turtles and insecure and i've been told that i look like i'd automatically turn them down if any of them tried to come up to me <- that usually follows the whole 'i'm surprised you're so sweet!'

but i now remember i once had a married man tell me about his past infidelity that lasted 10 years and ended it with.. 'you know, you remind me of her so much'

so maybe it's an age thing and in a decade or so ill be able to relate to your posts fellow venus/pluto sisters



I wouldn`t be surprised if you did. Us venus/pluto females do attract these desperate unhappy committed guys from near and even from afar. Like I even have a person on here that is committed that was attracted to me. And the worst thing is he is still stalking me even after i have told him where he stands with me and finds reasons to get into my threads when he really has nothing to do in my threads, lol. I am 25 btw.

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posted October 14, 2016 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sarahhm:
now when i think about it - what are you guy's age range?

i'm in my early twenties and in university so a majority of the guys around me are still awkward turtles and insecure and i've been told that i look like i'd automatically turn them down if any of them tried to come up to me <- that usually follows the whole 'i'm surprised you're so sweet!'

but i now remember i once had a married man tell me about his past infidelity that lasted 10 years and ended it with.. 'you know, you remind me of her so much'

so maybe it's an age thing and in a decade or so ill be able to relate to your posts fellow venus/pluto sisters


Not likely. It's much stronger when you're younger. And I've noticed I get less male attention when I'm with a teenage girl (though they have the good taste not to try to chat her up at least...not when I'm present anyway; ETA: she has Leo Venus, Sag Pluto). I had to deal with that as a kid myself.

And there were 2 guys who looked like they went to a local community college. The way they dressed (and their ages) suggested it but it's not actual proof they did. One of them (with no protest from the other) said to me as he passed, "You just scream 'rape me.'" (I was in my early 30s by then, while they looked about 20.) I'm not certain what that was about, though my guess is they built themselves up by tearing others down (they kept going without turning around, which tells me they weren't entirely confident in their behavior), and if they'd talk that way to me, then surely they'd talk that way to women their own age (though if universities stomp down on that behavior then maybe not if you're IN Uni).

That said, very few of those who came onto me or said anything of that nature appeared to be with any university, though plenty were significantly older and probably had been at some point in their lives.

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posted October 14, 2016 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
So I wonder how many women who DON'T have this aspect feel the same way?

I bet a lot.
I think this bridges over to a societal issue.


Good question!

I used to think it was about a universal experience, but apparently it's not. It's still pretty common.

And even when I kicked a boy in the face when I was 12 (he wouldn't stop goosing me, and I'd warned him to stop more than once), there were several girls my age who gave me verbal or written thanks for doing that because he had been a creep to them as well. Girls are a lot less likely to compliment other girls they don't know at that age so the amount of thanks I got was incredible. While it's reasonable to assume those girls were born within a year of me, it would be remarkable if they all had powerful Venus-Pluto aspects.

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