posted October 14, 2016 06:48 PM            

That quibble aside, I'm not surprised that connections between the Matrix and Hinduism can be seen.

I was going to recommend another vid for you, but it's taking SO LONG to explain it (because I'm sure most people won't watch it, though that won't stop them from making stupid assumptions about it and my intentions if I let it speak for itself, and I thought I should explain why I think it's relevant to this thread) that I'm going to create a brand new thread for it and then link to it in this one.

posted October 15, 2016 02:42 AM            

If you strip away the supernatural aspects of Christianity the main idea is, we're living in a matrix. The only way out is in, and through love.

Interesting Note: A devout Christian woman claimed she wrote the Matrix, or the basic outline that was made into that movie. It went to the courts and she won. She said she wanted to retell the story of Jesus Christ with a modern sci-fi backdrop, that's how she came up with the story.

According to ancient Greek world view; God is Spirit, God is Love, God is Sophia. God is the master creator. God created all things including the devil. Everything was created in God's image.

The Devil/Satan/Saturn became arrogant and wanted to play God. Thus he created time, reality, the matrix. Here/there he lured souls with the hook of physical pleasure, all things material so long as they worshiped him like a God, exclusively. However, Saturn is the false God. He is ego, violence, suffering. He is vengeful and wrathful. God the Almighty is Love. Once you enter the matrix you're stuck there for all eternity.

The only way out of the matrix is to reconnect with God. God made man in his image, and God is Sophia, God is Love. Find the God in you, and you will find the way out of the matrix. /ancient Greek/Christian world view.

In Astrology the Sun/Moon/Venus are the luminaries. While the moon doesn't pretend to be a Star, Venus does. However, we know Venus is not a star, just a pretender. Venus, with beauty, charm, and fabulous PR has revamp her image. No longer the great pretender, she's the Goddess of all things pleasurable, harmonious, just & fair.

Saturn is the lord of the Matrix. In Saturn ruled Aquarius the Sun/God is in his detriment. In Venus ruled Libra, Saturn is exulted, and the Sun/God is pulled to his death. <-- This because Libra is balance and death is the counterbalance to life.

posted October 15, 2016 04:08 PM            

I read one opinion that rulers of this planets use astrology to measure the REAL time (human system of measuring time is useless). Astrology was given to humans by gods

I haven't read Icke's book and was suprised to find out that some people have such negative opinion about Saturn.

posted October 16, 2016 02:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
According to the Bible, yes!!

If you strip away the supernatural aspects of Christianity the main idea is, we're living in a matrix. The only way out is in, and through love.

Interesting Note: A devout Christian woman claimed she wrote the Matrix, or the basic outline that was made into that movie. It went to the courts and she won. She said she wanted to retell the story of Jesus Christ with a modern sci-fi backdrop, that's how she came up with the story.

According to ancient Greek world view; God is Spirit, God is Love, God is Sophia. God is the master creator. God created all things including the devil. Everything was created in God's image.

The Devil/Satan/Saturn became arrogant and wanted to play God. Thus he created time, reality, the matrix. Here/there he lured souls with the hook of physical pleasure, all things material so long as they worshiped him like a God, exclusively. However, Saturn is the false God. He is ego, violence, suffering. He is vengeful and wrathful. God the Almighty is Love. Once you enter the matrix you're stuck there for all eternity.

The only way out of the matrix is to reconnect with God. God made man in his image, and God is Sophia, God is Love. Find the God in you, and you will find the way out of the matrix. /ancient Greek/Christian world view.

In Astrology the Sun/Moon/Venus are the luminaries. While the moon doesn't pretend to be a Star, Venus does. However, we know Venus is not a star, just a pretender. Venus, with beauty, charm, and fabulous PR has revamp her image. No longer the great pretender, she's the Goddess of all things pleasurable, harmonious, just & fair.

Saturn is the lord of the Matrix. In Saturn ruled Aquarius the Sun/God is in his detriment. In Venus ruled Libra, Saturn is exulted, and the Sun/God is pulled to his death. <-- This because Libra is balance and death is the counterbalance to life.

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posted October 16, 2016 09:05 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Nine:
According to the Bible, yes!!

If you strip away the supernatural aspects of Christianity the main idea is, we're living in a matrix. The only way out is in, and through love.

Interesting Note: A devout Christian woman claimed she wrote the Matrix, or the basic outline that was made into that movie. It went to the courts and she won. She said she wanted to retell the story of Jesus Christ with a modern sci-fi backdrop, that's how she came up with the story.

According to ancient Greek world view; God is Spirit, God is Love, God is Sophia. God is the master creator. God created all things including the devil. Everything was created in God's image.

The Devil/Satan/Saturn became arrogant and wanted to play God. Thus he created time, reality, the matrix. Here/there he lured souls with the hook of physical pleasure, all things material so long as they worshiped him like a God, exclusively. However, Saturn is the false God. He is ego, violence, suffering. He is vengeful and wrathful. God the Almighty is Love. Once you enter the matrix you're stuck there for all eternity.

The only way out of the matrix is to reconnect with God. God made man in his image, and God is Sophia, God is Love. Find the God in you, and you will find the way out of the matrix. /ancient Greek/Christian world view.

In Astrology the Sun/Moon/Venus are the luminaries. While the moon doesn't pretend to be a Star, Venus does. However, we know Venus is not a star, just a pretender. Venus, with beauty, charm, and fabulous PR has revamp her image. No longer the great pretender, she's the Goddess of all things pleasurable, harmonious, just & fair.

Saturn is the lord of the Matrix. In Saturn ruled Aquarius the Sun/God is in his detriment. In Venus ruled Libra, Saturn is exulted, and the Sun/God is pulled to his death. <-- This because Libra is balance and death is the counterbalance to life.

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posted October 16, 2016 07:16 PM            

Astrology in my view doesn't prove or disprove it.

posted October 22, 2016 05:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Queen Salome:
Do you think we can somehow influence Matrix and improve our lives?

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Yes.

But what is the Matrix?

I do not think it's a hologram in the same way as described in scifi, though it may reflect its reality in a way (like a doll within a doll). This goes into surreal metaphors and manifestations, the most esoteric occultism. And I don't think we can clearly define that.

You could learn "programming" through occultism and other esoteric techniques, but one thing people find is how connected we all are. You make changes and it vibrates, and that affects you, too. Sorry to be oblique but I don't see how to describe this in literal terms.

As a super simple example, a common mistake is for someone getting into occultism to invoke a Justice archetype (they're usually trying to break the rules without getting busted for it, a "cheat code" if you will) but that Archetype is outside of themselves and is not yours to command, nor some mommy to tattle to. Typically such people are themselves somewhat to blame for what happened as well and Justice comes down hard on the one who invoked it as well (and as this spreads around that person, other more experienced occultists who know what's going on tend to clear out until the dust settles).

And let's say that the metaphor of "Matrix" is actually identical to the literal version. In that case, trying commands with that is going to get a lot of "File Not Found." And genuine "Hacking" is may draw attention to yourself that you may prefer not to have, perhaps even the Grid Overwatch Division (GOD).

And using the Matrix as metaphor, then consider, are you part of the Matrix? That is, are you an "artificial intelligence" yourself? Or is it something you're immersed within? (It can be both, assuming there is a "player" and you're just the "character" in the "video game" called life, in which case you don't really exist, or at least not all of you does, and who is the player playing you? Ooh, that reminds me of the TZ ep Upgrade, which you can see here .)

Back when I first experimented with magic, I assumed that it was just positive thinking for the most part, though I saw enough weirdness that I realized it was more than that. But at the same time I drew in negative experiences as well, even had a terrifying experience with shadowy "men in black" figures so that my mentor into that worked to shut me down from the astral (perhaps one could see that as "jacking out").

That aside, if you want to experiment with that, I'd recommend Quantum Psychology (preferably after reading through Prometheus Rising ) by Robert Anton Wilson. You can read it on PDF here:
http://selfdefinition.org/science/Robert-Anton-Wilson-Quantum-Psychology.pdf