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ScorpieScorp
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posted October 15, 2016 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which was has a stronger effect on other people?

Sun conj Pluto OR Sun conj Uranus?

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posted October 15, 2016 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone?

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DopGang
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posted October 15, 2016 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Going off those aspects alone, no other factors.
I'd say neither is stronger than the other.

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soren
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posted October 15, 2016 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pluto is usually inclined 0-20 degrees above or below the ecliptic so it's rarer to get a "true" conjunction (fusion).

Uranus is usually exactly or +- 1 degree from the ecliptic.

Uranus is a bigger planet. But pluto has potent energy. Just as the sun conjunct moon would be the most powerful thing in a chart its proably more powerful to have sun conj uranus but would still be interesting to have it conj pluto

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posted October 15, 2016 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
Going off those aspects alone, no other factors.
I'd say neither is stronger than the other.

OK--well what effect do each of those aspects have on another person?

I hear Pluto/Sun is very mesmerizing and attractive.

Sun/Uranus is very captivating and dynamic--energizing even.

Thoughts?

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soren
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posted October 15, 2016 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun Uranus will behave very oddly. They act weird and odd behaviour

Sun Pluto are strong in some emotional sense. They always try to win and be better than you

In a way they have "control" of coming on top, at least to them

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posted October 17, 2016 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ I agree.

My Dad has sun conjunct pluto, he is the kind of people who is pretty much better within age and wise as a man.

His intensity is more to transform himself into a better person. And surprisingly very forgiving person after the storm has gone.

I may tell you that he is a strong man emotionally, he will always try to keep better after he falls or been hurt.

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posted October 17, 2016 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would be willing to say that Sun-Uranus would be more inclined to affect other people more so than Sun-Pluto, simply because Sun-Pluto is going to be more hidden from the public thanks to Pluto. Pluto may be more intense, but Uranus is going to be more open.

It's even more powerful with the outer planets in their own signs, such as Sun-Pluto in Scorpio or Sun-Uranus in Aquarius. I have the latter. Can you tell? 😏

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posted October 17, 2016 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Which was has a stronger effect on other people?

Sun conj Pluto OR Sun conj Uranus?


I would say different like which is hotter--hot horseradish or hot pepper at the same level of hotness.

They are different animals, so to speak.

I LOVE hot things

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posted October 19, 2016 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cottonball     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conj Pluto means you suffered at the hands of a cruel or self-destructive father.
Sun conj Uranus your father took one look at you and said "nope".

Sooo....I don't know I see sun aspects as father issues more than anything.

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posted October 19, 2016 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my classmates from childhood (1st through 12th grade) has sun conjunct Uranus in Scorpio. NN in Scorpio.

How's that for strength?

Just looked him up the other night, haven't Googled him in years, but I go through phases where I try and find people. He has an unusual name so he's easy to find.

He's in the news for some accomplishments, his wife is famous on Instagram (I read about her on UK's Daily Mail site, for instance). He and his wife have been offered a reality show by five different production companies, I read.

We'll see how that goes.

So far he's the most "famous" person I grew up with, that I know of. Could be famous soon, actually.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted October 19, 2016 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
soren made a good point, which is because Pluto's plane of orbit is eccentric to the ecliptic, and Uranus' plane of orbit is much closer to it this means that a conjunction of Sun and Uranus is far more likely to be accompanied by a parallel of the two planets (within about 1° of declination).

That does not happen very often with Pluto. It happens when it is around the extremes of declination (21-23°).

There is a narrow arc area when Pluto is in mid-Cancer and when Sun is there (July) when the two can be both conjunct and parallel. (Last happened 1920s-30s.)

And we are now seeing Pluto move into the area of Capricorn where it will be both conjunct and parallel the Sun when it is there (January). That will pass by 2023.

So there is a solid basis for saying Uranus typically is the stronger conjunction with the possible exceptions in the years when Pluto is in Cancer or Capricorn and reaching the extremes of declination. Those Sun-Pluto aspects are powerful indeed.

Then there is the factor of how wide the orbs. There is also the factor of the person. You cannot consider astrological influence apart from the person who enacts it. Yes, I said enacts it. [b]Astrological influence moves its energies through us and the selectors of free will to a result, behavior, or effect on others.[/b/]

Persons can also be charged either positively/+ or negatively/-. This has nothing to do with subjective moral assessments of good or bad. It has to do with the energy charge of the person's orientation and direction. A receptive, more passive, negatively charged person (-) will not show Uranus or Pluto aspects outwardly as obviously and will not tend to have impact upon others with those energies like a positively charged person (+) who is quite proactive and initiates the movement of energy outward from themselves to others and society.

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