posted October 19, 2016 09:28 AM            

I had one lie to me about his birth time. I was wary of him (he had a dishonest aura) so didn't ask. He volunteered this information, which was a lie.

posted October 19, 2016 10:00 AM              

But I am quite sensitive to other people`s energies or energies in general, and occasionally have to withdraw, to get centred in myself again.

posted October 19, 2016 10:08 AM            

Neptune makes amorphous what it touches

The ASC would be more so.

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posted October 19, 2016 11:18 AM            

Neptune with Mars is extremely charismatic and can be incredibly persuasive and almost hypnotic.

Neptune would need to be 'out on his own' for the shape shifting element. I have friends in mind when I think of this and i know them to be so sensitive they adapt, whereas with most people you can recognise their walk and stance from a long distance, not so with one who merges into their surroundings. This isn't to bring dishonesty into the mix, I've never considered Neptune to be dishonest personally. Fluid, changeable, adaptable and evasive but only when confronted by a request for definitives and structures..

posted October 19, 2016 01:11 PM            

I don't think I am a shapeshifter either.
Always had strong presence and individuality because of my Asc (Sag) conjunct Uranus (1st), trine Aries Mars/Venus. I was always very sure of what I want and need.

posted October 19, 2016 07:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have Neptune in the 1st but not conj the ASC. It makes it hard to find an identity, I think.

Neptune makes amorphous what it touches

The ASC would be more so.

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I am very, very piscean

Sun in Pisces, Saturn in Pisces
Neptune leads my 3rd house stellium. (I talk and think like a Pisces)

I have a 12th NN
Venus rules my twelfth so I love to escape. Neptune is Conjunct my Venus by a 1°. I am not a dishonest person but a weary person.

Amorphous is the perfect way to describe us. The more Neptunian you are the more shapeless and charitable you perceive things. My imagination and dreams often get me into trouble and my dream is to be a working musician. If I'm nowhere by 23 (Jupiter Return) I'll take it as a sign that it wasn't meant for me, and probably go back to school I guess. Being an actor also interests me and I've had a successful YouTube career in high school. Been in some music videos. Now I'm rocking out for the time being.

posted October 19, 2016 07:38 PM            

When I first met him, I started shaking. There was something extremely unsettling about his energy. There are times when he comes off as "spooky" (no other word to put it), and other times when it's like soaking in a warm bath filled with the most aromatic perfumes.

These people tend to have extremely beautiful, expressive eyes.

He once told me his dreams are so vivid that while in the dream, he'll start accepting that this must be reality (the material world) and is freaked out whenever he wakes up. There are times he's had conversation in dreams and assumed that he *actually* did have these conversations with these people and bring it up to them when he's awake. They look at him like he's insane and say "we never talked about that.."

posted October 19, 2016 08:31 PM            

I am extremely spacey, moody, imaginative, and I daydream CONSTANTLY. It's actually been detrimental and I feel like I can't function in reality. Someone will be talking to me and all of a sudden I'm drifting off into some dream or idea. Sure everyone daydreams but my escapism is excessive. I'm never "here in the moment". I tend to become exhausted after talking to people all day. I need a lot of alone time. I don't look the same in pictures, and I'm intuitive to peoples emotions.

posted October 20, 2016 04:24 AM            

As far as my childhood goes, it was unusual. I grew up with a single mom who was younger and she was in rock bands and prided herself as a independent feminist and I went to a different elementary school every year until 4th grade.

Also I have the Pisces Moon in the 3rd H, so this could relate as well, and Neptune is square my Mars.

posted October 20, 2016 04:33 AM            

My father is also a Neptune Riser, and I've personally known 3 other people as well.
Some things I can tell you:
1: we all tend to experience people who will argue with us about our OWN personality traits.
2: all can walk into a room and tell you the mood of the people in there.
3: all need more sleep than average, get drained easily, and enjoy solitude more than most.

Childhood I don't think is described by the Ascendant itself. It's how we deal with our immediate environment and the incarnating point of the soul. It's the physical vehicle (first thing we identify with) and the attraction axis (themes we attract into our lives). My childhood was very Saturnian/Arian, as characteristic of my Saturn in Aries 4th house.

However I can say my life has revolved around Neptune themes, and so has other Neptune Risers I've known.
I've always been sensitive to an unhealthy degree. Too receptive to other people's thoughts and emotions. I can't do crowds. I can't do most foods with preservatives/colours/etc because I'm allergic to EVERYTHING (even chocolate).
When I was younger I had extreme tactile defensiveness, crippling shyness, night terrors, psychic phenomena, etc, etc.

Shape shifter? Yes
Sometimes I'm aware of this, other times not so much. It's not as fun as it sounds. I'm often not sure if this is MY stuff I'm feeling or that guy's I spoke to briefly at the supermarket...
Spacey? Yes again
I get asked a lot 'where I am' or 'where I've gone' because I'm definitely not here, lol.

posted October 20, 2016 08:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am not a shape shifter.
Not a liar either or dishonest.

But I am quite sensitive to other people`s energies or energies in general, and occasionally have to withdraw, to get centred in myself again.

Neptune conjunct ASC and Mars.

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posted October 20, 2016 08:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I have a pretty clear identity (but I also have Sun in 1st house), however for some times in my formative years it was very difficult for me to differentiate between if what I was feeling was really MY feelings or if I was feeling someone else`s feelings really.

Luckily nowadays I can differentiate between that, but for a time it was a tad confusing and exhausting.

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posted October 20, 2016 08:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
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I am quite sensitive to other people`s energies or energies in general, and occasionally have to withdraw, to get centred in myself again.
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posted October 20, 2016 08:38 AM            

I think Linda put it perfectly when she said that to the Neptune people(in that case Pisces), reality is not real.But the dream world is.

With all the Neptune people I have met, they believe more in the dream and the visceral feelings that these dreams evoked than they are likely to take things in "real life" seriously.

Neptune in 1st as a child probably had many imaginary friends and "lands"- if they were not sick all the time.

Neptune in 1st can often give the native looks of someone who is a very old ancestor of the family, an appearance of someone whom seems more from a foreign or distant land or rare physical additions(two differing colour eyes or an unusual hair colour/texture)

Being mistaken for a "foreigner" or "refugee" is common with this house.Infact being mistaken for being younger than they are or a false arrest/killing etc. may even happen because of mistaken identity.

The "gypsy" or "drifter" lifestyle is likely. Living on the fringe of society or in some beautiful isolated area- near a beach/swamp/river or wetland.

It is likely that they were ignored, had siblings taking the majority of attention or were often "underachievers" in childhood.

Maybe they had to fit into the schedule of their parents in a discreet way.Felt "invisible" or were the result of an affair, a concealed pregnancy or the paternity of the father being in question OR later revealed in adulthood-raising more questions of "who am I?".

When you watch the movie "White Oleander", the girl there is a Neptune type.

No clear sense of identity either than being an extension of her Mom. At the end,she learns to break free from her Mother and become herself.

If you meet one,they often appear "blameless" and so sweet. Which many are. But others are dealing with all sorts of addictions,identity issues and social phobias.

There is an incoherence in the way that they appear.They could seem like they are not very good at speaking clearly,seem overly shy or are always in some sort of "disguise".

Men love to grow a beard and have an unkempt appearance. Often "hiding" behind it.

Women tend to love camouflage:On shoes, pants or head wrap around head gear-again "hiding"

Neptune shuns the light but loves the nightlife. So most don't mind going out at night as they feel that this is the only time that people are "free" to be themselves.

Neptune in 1st(ironically enough) are incredibly commanding on screen or in theater.

Not because they are confident. But because it gives them an opportunity to assume an identity and be completely "possessed" by it.

These people should steer clear of games that involve the dark arts. As they have the probability of being easily "possessed"- because of the sensitivity to vibrational energy.

I also think that Neptune in 1st is very vulnerable to what one may term "psychic" attacks. As they can easily develop the capacity to channel spirits and entities.

Religious belief system or spiritually tend to lead their way of life . Or they choose to focus their life in that direction- often having had an experience with "God" or "extra terrestrials" etc.

Romance is often an ideal in many and so is love. But seldom do their real lives reflect the romance and love they yearn for. In fact, most may be painfully lonely(even when with someone)

posted October 20, 2016 11:37 AM            

"In mythology, folklore and speculative fiction, shapeshifting (or metamorphosis) [citation needed] is the ability of a being or creature to completely transform its physical form or shape. This is usually achieved through an inherent ability of a mythological creature, divine intervention, or the use of magic."

When I used the word shapeshifting I did mean physically.... these people look different, as if their auras are more vividly indicative of their thoughts.

Am loving these descriptions….with just Mercury in Pisces I can relate to so many. Particularly the having conversations in dreams and thinking they happened in real life. I love Neptune.

posted October 20, 2016 05:59 PM            

Religious belief system or spiritually tend to lead their way of life . Or they choose to focus their life in that direction- often having had an experience with "God" or "extra terrestrials" etc.

Romance is often an ideal in many and so is love. But seldom do their real lives reflect the romance and love they yearn for. In fact, most may be painfully lonely(even when with someone)

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I also think that Neptune in 1st is very vulnerable to what one may term "psychic" attacks. As they can easily develop the capacity to channel spirits and entities.

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Elaborate more on this part.

posted October 22, 2016 05:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I don't have Neptune in 1st. But Neptune conjunct Sun and trine Asc(and that is enough thank you)

I think Linda put it perfectly when she said that to the Neptune people(in that case Pisces), reality is not real.But the dream world is.

With all the Neptune people I have met, they believe more in the dream and the visceral feelings that these dreams evoked than they are likely to take things in "real life" seriously.

Neptune in 1st as a child probably had many imaginary friends and "lands"- if they were not sick all the time.

Neptune in 1st can often give the native looks of someone who is a very old ancestor of the family, an appearance of someone whom seems more from a foreign or distant land or rare physical additions(two differing colour eyes or an unusual hair colour/texture)

Being mistaken for a "foreigner" or "refugee" is common with this house.Infact being mistaken for being younger than they are or a false arrest/killing etc. may even happen because of mistaken identity.

The "gypsy" or "drifter" lifestyle is likely. Living on the fringe of society or in some beautiful isolated area- near a beach/swamp/river or wetland.

It is likely that they were ignored, had siblings taking the majority of attention or were often "underachievers" in childhood.

Maybe they had to fit into the schedule of their parents in a discreet way.Felt "invisible" or were the result of an affair, a concealed pregnancy or the paternity of the father being in question OR later revealed in adulthood-raising more questions of "who am I?".

When you watch the movie "White Oleander", the girl there is a Neptune type.

No clear sense of identity either than being an extension of her Mom. At the end,she learns to break free from her Mother and become herself.

If you meet one,they often appear "blameless" and so sweet. Which many are. But others are dealing with all sorts of addictions,identity issues and social phobias.

There is an incoherence in the way that they appear.They could seem like they are not very good at speaking clearly,seem overly shy or are always in some sort of "disguise".

Men love to grow a beard and have an unkempt appearance. Often "hiding" behind it.

Women tend to love camouflage:On shoes, pants or head wrap around head gear-again "hiding"

Neptune shuns the light but loves the nightlife. So most don't mind going out at night as they feel that this is the only time that people are "free" to be themselves.

Neptune in 1st(ironically enough) are incredibly commanding on screen or in theater.

Not because they are confident. But because it gives them an opportunity to assume an identity and be completely "possessed" by it.

These people should steer clear of games that involve the dark arts. As they have the probability of being easily "possessed"- because of the sensitivity to vibrational energy.

I also think that Neptune in 1st is very vulnerable to what one may term "psychic" attacks. As they can easily develop the capacity to channel spirits and entities.

Religious belief system or spiritually tend to lead their way of life . Or they choose to focus their life in that direction- often having had an experience with "God" or "extra terrestrials" etc.

Romance is often an ideal in many and so is love. But seldom do their real lives reflect the romance and love they yearn for. In fact, most may be painfully lonely(even when with someone)

So much to say...but I'll stop here.

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Ha, this sounds like me! I have Neptune first house, and as a child especially I lived in a fantasy world and pretended I was someone else. My childhood was kind of unhappy so I think this is why. I still kind of imagine I am living a different life now. I have two different coloured eyes too, one also has a patch of brown in. I would say my intuition is very strong, and sometimes I know things before they happen, or I have a feeling about something or someone. Additionally I am very creative - I play 3 instruments and write and record all my own stuff, as well as writing lyrics.