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Electro DGX
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posted October 21, 2016 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How does this aspect play out for you? Are you very mentally adaptable and "malleable"? Do you tend to consider so many differing viewpoints that you end up getting lost in choosing the best one? Are you very sensitive to other people's energies?

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Faith
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posted October 21, 2016 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the septile (51.25° aspect, if anyone is unfamiliar.)

Aqua Mercury/Sag Neptune

Lately I look at everything differently, my mind feels open to all kinds of wandering perspectives that I entertain. Some align with conventional thinking and values, some deviate, some have nothing to do with society really, it's just like my mind playing language games with itself for its own peculiar amusement.

Fortunately my parents were imaginative themselves, and I wasn't half as much the oddball as other siblings. Creativity was encouraged at home and that gave me confidence to try it in school. I would take big risks with assignments, putting a spin on it, being outlandish, turning in essays that didn't answer the test question at all. This worked for me, I was rewarded for it (maybe because teachers get bored with their jobs).

I adapted to challenges by inventing ways to satisfy my own needs: for novelty, and for material I found mentally stimulating instead of deadening.

At times a particular area of study or belief system has and will struck me with such force that I rendered myself "malleable" to it...though I have a fixed Mercury, it doesn't really melt and bend like hot metal, it cracks or crumbles to make room for other things. In these cases I have sometimes allowed myself to be "programmed" by others' ways of thinking, and taken this to extremes. Examples range from something as seemingly superfluous as art criticism to something as seemingly bizarre (for someone like me) as Christian fundamentalism.

Even though I've gone through phases defined by certain mental obsessions, at the same time I've always resisted being strictly confined within whatever boundaries these disciplines established. Or, it's more like, I was unable to conform. The very reason I liked the idea in the first place was, it seemed to open up a space in my mind where more freedom of thought was possible. It was self-serving as far as I was concerned; anyone who thought I might be malleable or docile was at least partly misled by appearances.

My Mercury-Neptune midpoint is conjunct my DNA in Capricorn; it's been so crucial (Capricorn-type crucial) for me to convey to my children the idea that they also have so much more freedom in the mind than society trains them to believe.

" Do you tend to consider so many differing viewpoints that you end up getting lost in choosing the best one?"

If they are all equally good and worth considering I tend to enjoy weighing everything. It only becomes a problem when others demand I give a unilateral response.

"Are you very sensitive to other people's energies?"

Yes but I don't know exactly why you are asking that. In what way is Mercury-Neptune typically sensitive? Picking up on subtleties, noticing the linguistics?

Please don't quote, I know I'm rambling.

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headintheclouds91
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posted October 21, 2016 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend has the opposition and she gets very easily influenced by others opinions and isn`t an independent thinker. Almost everything that comes out of her mouth she has been fed by somebody else. And she will often copy/mirror the way you talk too. Her bf has actually said to her that she tends to talk more english when she has been with me we are not english folks but i tend to use a lot of english words when i talk and i can see how she copies the way her bf talks too.

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hearttreasure
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posted October 21, 2016 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Yep. 100% agree.

Also if they are very aware of their own mental adaptability, they can have a power to easily stretch the truth (without people realize it) and/or make people confused when people start questioning their exaggerate story. Surprisingly, people tend to believe their story 100%, that's why they can be a great influencer. If they use it negatively, some people will start smell the untrustworthy vibe.

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PixieJane
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posted October 21, 2016 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I practice both deductive and intuitive thinking (and try to use them to verify or argue each other). I do love many viewpoints, and I am adaptable. I find switching between mental points of view fun (a lot of my fiction does this, and btw, I think 3H Libra sun & stellium sextile 5H stellium is why I'm into creative writing, often with a philosophical slant, though I try to not let it dominate the story).

However, I do not get overwhelmed, save in extraordinary circumstances (though if I determine it is volatile or even dangerous to be different then I'll be careful to play along as if I'm one of them, but I'm lucid the entire time), but neither does my ego flare up and try to "correct" everyone around me (though as a kid I could ask uncomfortable questions even without trying, and I'd master an argument to use on others just to get their response and rebuttal, but it wasn't anything personal to me, it was even fun, and I'd been known to switch tracks and argue myself when others couldn't--even if I don't agree with something, I still want to understand the reasoning, both conscious and subconscious). It's like this: I can blend in at a country western club and then a goth club (though I haven't gone to either in years), and those there will never know unless I tell them (I've even been argued when I did tell someone). And because I tend to know so much about different viewpoints I can get mistaken for actually subscribing to one, especially when my quips get rather esoteric, like I got a Russian Orthodox to laugh when I replied to her wondering in cynical tones what the new Pope Benedict XVI would be like by saying in a faux optimistic voice with something like, "Maybe he's so conservative that he'll renounce the filioque and apologize on behalf of the Western church for acting above the council by arbitrarily acting as the sole arbiter of truth." (And she thought I was Russian Orthodox, but I've never even been Christian.)

These days I don't seek to disturb people in real life as it not only makes my life more difficult, but also the lives I help. I have to be careful because sometimes a glimpse of another part comes out, something that is trivial to me but upsetting to others, and it's like I turn into an alien (probably a menacing alien). And sometimes casual acquaintances can get me gifts they think I like, and I try to hide my laughter on how they obviously view me (like one guy knew I trained in martial arts and bought me a movie he said I'd like which had me in stitches--laught AT, now with, and he didn't intend for it to be a comedy--and as soon as my sparring partner got home I showed it to her, laughing at the look on her face as she watched a "movie we'd both like").

I can think lucidly, but I can also think in symbols. I've got an example of symbols (just shared it yesterday, though not on LL), and one that fit with a recent thread on possible totem animals that I posted in, but this is long enough. Maybe I'll explain it later. In any case, I realize in retrospect that a lot of the fiction I wrote was trying to work out the real life difficulties I was having (in a way, sorta like the themes of Labyrinth, Wizard of Oz, Sucker Punch, and Company of Wolves). This also worked for the visions and such I had as a kid as well, but again, long story.

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FruityLlama
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posted October 21, 2016 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a close trine and I do relate to the above, unfortunately.

It helps with poetry writing though

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moongaze
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posted October 22, 2016 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moongaze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the opposition. What I've noticed is that sometimes how I perceive myself and others around me can be different to what everyone else sees. For example, I sometimes see myself as appearing too nervous and shy in public, but when I ask others around me, they usually say I appear the opposite. Or maybe I think someone is being mean, but later find out that their intentions were totally not aligned with how I was perceiving them. It's odd. I guess you can say my vision can be warped at times without me even realizing it.

I actually would consider myself a very independent thinker that goes against the grain, but I also have the opposition to Uranus too, so that can be why. I like to take all viewpoints into consideration in order to formulate what I believe is best from my own perspective. However, I do agree that because of this it can be difficult to make official decisions, so I can be very indecisive due to how sometimes I equally see the good and bad in many viewpoints.

I am very sensitive to other people's energies too, but I think this is also in part to me being a Cancer Mercury and Pisces Moon, both in Water houses, so I can take some viewpoints to heart at times.

One thing I do like about the Mercury/Neptune opp. aspect is that it brings a very broad, active imagination. It's very handy when it comes to artistic interests.

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headintheclouds91
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posted October 23, 2016 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moongaze:
I have the opposition. What I've noticed is that sometimes how I perceive myself and others around me can be different to what everyone else sees. For example, I sometimes see myself as appearing too nervous and shy in public, but when I ask others around me, they usually say I appear the opposite. Or maybe I think someone is being mean, but later find out that their intentions were totally not aligned with how I was perceiving them. It's odd. I guess you can say my vision can be warped at times without me even realizing it.

I actually would consider myself a very independent thinker that goes against the grain, but I also have the opposition to Uranus too, so that can be why. I like to take all viewpoints into consideration in order to formulate what I believe is best from my own perspective. However, I do agree that because of this it can be difficult to make official decisions, so I can be very indecisive due to how sometimes I equally see the good and bad in many viewpoints.

I am very sensitive to other people's energies too, but I think this is also in part to me being a Cancer Mercury and Pisces Moon, both in Water houses, so I can take some viewpoints to heart at times.

One thing I do like about the Mercury/Neptune opp. aspect is that it brings a very broad, active imagination. It's very handy when it comes to artistic interests.


This is also my friend`s mercury sign and she also has uranus opposite mercury but she is not an independent thinker unfortunately. The only part i can see uranus in her is that she can be a little quirky in the way she communicates and thinks sometimes. But she too gets misunderstood and misunderstands others. She also lies a lot but also have been deceived many times herself. Its like when she isn`t the one lying the other one is and vice versa.

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moongaze
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posted October 23, 2016 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moongaze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by headintheclouds91:
This is also my friend`s mercury sign and she also has uranus opposite mercury but she is not an independent thinker unfortunately. The only part i can see uranus in her is that she can be a little quirky in the way she communicates and thinks sometimes. But she too gets misunderstood and misunderstands others. She also lies a lot but also have been deceived many times herself. Its like when she isn`t the one lying the other one is and vice versa.

Interesting. I've always been pretty fine with being different from others and having different opinions. I never conformed to trends just because that's what everyone else was doing. I think that could also be because I'm an Aries rising too, since Aries is an independent and freedom loving sign.

I'm also not a compulsive liar and generally find it very difficult to lie, as I am a horrible liar, haha. When I try lying, you'd be able to tell. My Gemini Mercury sister can always sniff it out. :P I also have Mercury trine Moon and Pluto, so maybe that could be a reason why I find it difficult to lie. Sometimes I feel I can be painfully too honest and blunt.

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