posted October 28, 2016 09:55 AM            

I guess it's my Neptune which is all over my chart. I care deeply about any sort of animal/creatures. I do not feel much for people other than kids and elderly. I feel no empathy for people, to be honest.

posted October 28, 2016 10:28 AM            

I'd think the last two houses and signs?
11/12/aqua/pisces

I'm not sure.

posted October 28, 2016 10:47 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I'm with you Charlie.
I don't know what it could be.

I'd think the last two houses and signs?
11/12/aqua/pisces

I'm not sure.

I'll have to look. Mostly where I really push for a cause is at work. I fight for everybody. I fight for us. I speak out and I take action to create change.

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I think "collective thinking" makes me claustrophobic. Or a waste of time. Haven't decided which one yet. But I've always wondered why I've never had a cause. Maybe I don't care? But then again, I LOVE animals so why shouldn't I care about animal cruelty for example?? I have an 11H Stellium so why shouldn't I care about collective humanity? Suppressed humans?

posted October 28, 2016 10:56 AM            

But just for statistical information, my big three are Cancer Sun, Pisces Moon, and Aries Ascendant. I also have a 6th house Virgo Jupiter, so I am very cautious about my eating choices and health. I, 90% of the time, cook my meals from scratch at home and do a variant of Ashtanga/Power yoga weekly.

posted October 28, 2016 12:07 PM            

For me, it was more about the health benefits than the cause. Since Virgo is so health conscious, people with this influence are the most likely to give that life a try, in my opinion. Not all people with Virgo energy, of course. But it is a definite trend.

posted October 28, 2016 05:17 PM            

Why? Because we live based on our surroundings.

I'm for it if I can and I will try but if I cannot , I have no problems leaving it at that.

I think you are on that boat too, you are aware but live by what you can do.

Eating though is what you are putting into your body, so people can be very careful about this. Plus , every year that passes in your life, you may learn some things, you may let some things go. So your beliefs change.

posted October 29, 2016 03:32 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I have an 11H Stellium so why shouldn't I care about collective humanity? Suppressed humans?
I just don't want to be labeled into a box of a certain way of thinking.

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posted October 29, 2016 03:46 AM            

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Originally posted by SalemsEnd:
Do you have pluto in the 11th by any chance??

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posted October 29, 2016 09:33 AM            

Saturn in Cancer/11th h, and Pluto in Libra in 3rd h.

They're square, but I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it.

My Saturn in 11th is also the apex of a Yod that involves Aquarius Mercury in my 6h (cusp of Dsc), and Sag Neptune in my 5h.

So, there's that.

I used to go to a lot of protests when I was younger, but I realized that in order to actually live by all of my beliefs I would have to go off and live in a tree or something, so I think I made a conscious decision to just stick with one thing I would do my best to personally contribute to, and encourage others to contribute or think about as well.

posted October 29, 2016 10:35 AM            

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I think "collective thinking" makes me claustrophobic. Or a waste of time. Haven't decided which one yet.
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I just don't want to be labeled into a box of a certain way of thinking.

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I have Saturn in 11h, as I mentioned, and I'm not a fan of "collective thinking" either, or being much a part of any group.

I just sort of do what I do (which consists mainly of working for non-profits for really poor pay, and donating what I can to the cause(s) I stand up for).

I would do more volunteer work, but that often includes teaming up with the type of "group" I think you're referring to, so I often just don't. I used to just pick up litter when I was in the mountains, and throw it away, rather than getting involved in some big community project or whatever.

posted October 29, 2016 11:16 AM            

I am trying to clue myself up on make up that is cruelty free because I don't see the point in making animals suffer needlessly for my vanity. That's horrible imo. But I understand its very different when you slaughter an animal for survival (I can't go vegetarian at the moment because my health isn't great and I got pretty ill when I was a veggie...iron deficiency and all. When I have more time and money I must look into doing it properly because it can obviously be done).

Having said that, its not a cause, its just how I see things. I don't care what other people do...well I do, but I won't call them out on it.

posted October 29, 2016 12:18 PM            

I used to get a lot more involved in causes, and have been using politics to distract myself from more depressing matters, because this election has had me really ****** off at times. I''m flabbergasted by it all.

I also know that I can't help with everything, although when I was younger, I didn't think that way. I remember writing letters, signing petitions, trying to find home for rescue animals, trying to stop animals being sold for medical research (from shelters, or "free to good home" ads).