posted November 06, 2016 11:42 AM              

I haven't seen or heard much related to this sign.

Virgo is usually the sign that gets glossed over for more "exciting" signs like Aries or Pisces during discussions here on LL or at least this just my take on it.

What is up with Virgo?

What makes this sign unique?

What separates Virgo from the rest?

I have natal Chiron in Virgo along with a 6th house stellium so I'm trying to really understand this energy.

posted November 06, 2016 11:49 AM            

Kidding. I like to think of Virgo as the sign that keeps order in place. Virgo is very logical, orderly, and structured. They are the most organized of the signs and their thought process is so organized; their mind is a room full filing cabinets organized down to the very last bit. However, Virgo can also be insecure and often has self-esteem issues, which is why Virgo feels the need to serve others in order to reestablish their self-worth.

This is why they can come off as critical. Virgo wants to help people out, but their constant need to give advice can be seen as "nitpicking" and people can get frustrated with them. They will usually show their appreciation in small doses such as doing your laundry and cleaning the house. However, if their kindness is not acknowledged and taken for granted, they can feel rejected.

I may post more later.

posted November 06, 2016 12:16 PM            

I am not a stereotypical Virgo, my partner who has a number of planets in the 6th house and Jupiter in Virgo can be more Virgo than me.

They like things to be in their place and for things to be clean and organized. They are very analytical, deep thinkers and detail oriented. If they have a strong Venus and Leo placements this can be a good recipe for a great artist and someone very creative good at coming up with creative solutions.

Virgo energy with pluto energy can be very strategic even if they don't show you that side of them, it's happening internally and privately but not in a scheming way, they are not interested in revenge or hurting others, Virgo is kind but they are goal oriented and working towards achieving their hopes and dreams and are always coming up with plans and strategizing to achieve this.

Virgo in combo with Pisces/Neptune are an interesting mix bc they want to help you grow but they also want you to love yourself as you are and embrace and accept your flaws so to speak while still aiming for self improvement.

posted November 06, 2016 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I am a Virgo but my strongest planet is Neptune and Neptune squares all my Virgo placements.

I am not a stereotypical Virgo, my partner who has a number of planets in the 6th house and Jupiter in Virgo can be more Virgo than me.

They like things to be in their place and for things to be clean and organized. They are very analytical, deep thinkers and detail oriented. If they have a strong Venus and Leo placements this can be a good recipe for a great artist and someone very creative good at coming up with creative solutions.

Virgo energy with pluto energy can be very strategic even if they don't show you that side of them, it's happening internally and privately but not in a scheming way, they are not interested in revenge or hurting others, Virgo is kind but they are goal oriented and working towards achieving their hopes and dreams and are always coming up with plans and strategizing to achieve this.

Virgo in combo with Pisces/Neptune are an interesting mix bc they want to help you grow but they also want you to love yourself as you are and embrace and accept your flaws so to speak while still aiming for self improvement.

Virgo does well with Scorpio in relationships bc they tend to have this innocence and willingness to surrender sexually and emotionally to Scorpio which they find very erotic and a turn on, they are kinky in a way Scorpio really enjoys. When I say Scorpio it could also be sun in hard aspect to pluto. So Virgo is the virgin but she is a kinky virgin whether is evident or not so I don't think Virgos are boring, they can be mysterious, deep thinkers and kinky but in a feminine way.

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posted November 06, 2016 02:33 PM            

This could be Asc,Sun,Moon,Mercury,Venus or Mars.

Moon/Mercury/Ic in Virgo especially, tend to take work home i.e they think of problems related to clients whilst at home or how best to deal with them.

Sexuality/Romance is usually tied in to some type of "service"(especially when Venus/Mars is in Virgo or influencing the cusp of the 5th/7th/8th house).

Though Virgo can be very technically "skilled" in bed ,emotional connection could be lacking as often they find doing that in conjunction with being attentive to your needs, quite challenging.

Many Virgos I know are easily stressed.So to bring out the best in them, try to put them at ease by assisting with the details of life-as some can be bogged down heavily by those.

There are some who may suffer from eating disorders or ailments associated with the consumption of food/diet.

Physically, they can be attractive.But unless there are Libra/Taurus/Pisces/Gemini placements therein,most can seem very cerebral and not charming at all.

I had a Virgo colleague who suffered from chronic migraines. So I wondered if her mental faculties ever got a break?

She was seldom at ease at work and always stressed out about something a client did. And this contributed heavily to her absenteeism and mood-swings.

I find that this sign-next to Cap- is very hard on itself.

Oh yes, and most look clean, like they just stepped out of a shower-even if that is not the case.

And there is often mad respect for "specialized" professions or people who are inclined towards a "specialty" in their careers i.e not just a doctor, but a brain surgeon who specializes in neurological diseases etc.

So much to say. Its a very interesting energy and not at all "boring" IMO.

posted November 06, 2016 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
The consistent theme I notice with most Virgos is the tendency to fall apart when they are not working/being productive Its like the expression of this energy HAS to do something....

This could be Asc,Sun,Moon,Mercury,Venus or Mars.

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Great point, we love having a routine and counting on it, we need the structure of it and to feel we are contributing some how to society.

We do get tired of our routine though if you are also plutonic or uranian and need to change our routine drastically periodically or we start to feel stuck and like our life force is been sucked out of us or numb

posted November 06, 2016 03:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Moon/Mercury/Ic in Virgo especially, tend to take work home i.e they think of problems related to clients whilst at home or how best to deal with them.

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Fascinating observation.

posted November 06, 2016 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Though Virgo can be very technically "skilled" in bed ,emotional connection could be lacking as often they find doing that in conjunction with being attentive to your needs, quite challenging.

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I can agree to this but it depends on the whole chart. I can see this been the case for my virgo friend with Moon in Libra and Venus in Virgo and actually what you are mentioning is something my sister has told me in the past she struggles with but she is a Sun and Venus cancer with Moon in Scorpio and Mars in Virgo.

posted November 06, 2016 03:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

So much to say. Its a very interesting energy and not at all "boring" IMO.

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posted November 06, 2016 05:01 PM            

1. Noticing everything. I mean EVERYTHING. Every little freaking thing. It gets exhausting. But they do

2. Needing to be useful - this is a big one, and I don't think it comes from lack of self esteem as someone put it. Actually in case of low self esteem it can manifest as doing anything for anyone even though they don't believe in it. But I think in most cases Virgo's need to be useful manifests through a purpose, or working for something they believe in. Then, they can do the most boring work (not forever though) because they believe it is useful and they believe in the cause.
Also this manifests in their need to help people, but not like, I want to do everything for you, more like I want to help you when it's clear you need help.

3. Wanting to know what is happening, why it's happening, when it's happening, until when it's happening, how it's happening
Put a Virgo in a middle of a room not knowing what is happening and why and they will go mad in seconds. (me waiting at the doctors office)

4. When they noticed and know all the details (and if they couldn't find it online that information is NOT on the internet), then they are more than willing to share them with you. They won't let you hanging and they know what you need to know. They know how it is to not know what is happening (see nr.3) so they don't want to do this to other people.

5. They can see in their minds eye how something looks "before" and how can it be improved to look "after". This is painful to them because they see their own faults sometimes too clearly. With time, they could learn that there is no such thing as "fault", everything is already "good enough". Seeing what can be improved to get from state A to state B doesn't make state A inferior to B. Realising this helps a Virgo to be able to unleash a huge amount of love towards life and all there is to it, something they never knew existed in them.

6. Their mind is a messed up complicated machine. Just because they seem so organised from the outside that doesn't mean this is how their minds work. They actually have several threads of thought running in their mind in the same time, so they have this need to disentangle that and offer a clear result to the audience including themselves. But that clarity is not reflection of their mental process, more like a desperate need to keep them from going insane. (here I could be biased because of my Mercury Neptune square)

7. They get bored easily - not necessarily bored as in they need you to help them what to do next (they never need anyone lol), more like they need constant mental stimulation. I know some people say that is specific for Virgos to get specialised in one strict area and focus on that all their lives but I am honestly not sure this is true for the majority. I'm always having new revelations about what should I do for the rest of my life, it's always something different, and then I get excited about it, I throw myself into finding out everything about the subject, but then after a few months something else will come. But it depends on the amount of fixed energy in the chart imo, which I lack.

8. They cannot learn only on the theoretical level. Concepts are cool, but Virgo, especially Mercury needs to ground these somehow. I read somewhere that for Air signs concepts are like things, but for Earth concepts can be slippery. They need to have some kind of hands on experience. or some kind of emotional spiritual experience in case of nonmaterial "stuff". The key here is they need the experience.

9. They are very independent. I think Virgo is the most independent sign, as in, they can do everything (ok, almost) on their own and they have a need for this. This can result in isolation sometimes and not asking for help when with help they would not spend 10x more time to do something by themselves.

10. Sexually speaking I think Virgos are very misunderstood. I read somewhere this interpretation (I don't know where it's coming from) that Virgo and Scorpio were originally one sign, and in that, what they represented was the original Eden, which is the state of flow, extasy, and which is sex. Haha. I really like this, however crazy it sounds. I believe that archetypes are alive and it's our perspectives and believes that shape them anyway.
Another story about this subject is the one of the "Sacred Virgins", the ones that lived in temples, and were the archetype of the knowledgeable and independent female energy, the one we repressed though these years of patriarchy. The one that teaches you how to connect with your sexuality, who reunites the male aspect of sexuality which has been over-emphasised throughout history with the female aspect which has been suppressed. And I mean this regardless for men and women. This is an aspect of Virgo I'm really interested and passionate about

11. They like making lists

Ok, so there is obviously much more, and probably after I will hit Submit, I will realise I forgot something very important

posted November 06, 2016 10:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Cinnamon sky:

10. Sexually speaking I think Virgos are very misunderstood. I read somewhere this interpretation (I don't know where it's coming from) that Virgo and Scorpio were originally one sign, and in that, what they represented was the original Eden, which is the state of flow, extasy, and which is sex. Haha. I really like this, however crazy it sounds. I believe that archetypes are alive and it's our perspectives and believes that shape them anyway.
Another story about this subject is the one of the "Sacred Virgins", the ones that lived in temples, and were the archetype of the knowledgeable and independent female energy, the one we repressed though these years of patriarchy. The one that teaches you how to connect with your sexuality, who reunites the male aspect of sexuality which has been over-emphasised throughout history with the female aspect which has been suppressed. And I mean this regardless for men and women. This is an aspect of Virgo I'm really interested and passionate about

11. They like making lists

Ok, so there is obviously much more, and probably after I will hit Submit, I will realise I forgot something very important

I have Virgo Sun and rising, also Virgo Mercury (just for the record)

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I have read that theory too at some point so looked it up so we can refresh our memories and found this:

It is said by the ancients that there were originally only 10 zodiac signs, not 12 - Libra was added and Virgo and Scorpio were split into 2 separate signs. According to various sources, including Madame Blavatsky, the sign of Libra was inserted and divided the formerly unified sign of Virgo-Scorpio. The Virgin and the Serpent. Genesis, the Garden of Eden, and the "fall" of man.

"This division was called Ezekiel's wheel and was completed in the following way: First came the ascending signs (euphermerized into patriarchs), Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, and the group concluded with Virgo-Scorpio. Then came the turning-point, Libra. After which, the first half of the sign of Virgo-Scorpio, was duplicated and transferred to lead the lower, or descending group of Microcosm which ran down to Pisces, or Noah (deluge). To make it clearer, the sign Virgo-Scorpio, became simply Virgo, and the duplication, Scorpio, was placed between Libra, the seventh sign (which is Enoch, or the angel Metatron, or Mediator between spirit and matter, or God and man). It now became Scorpio (or Cain), which sign or patriarch led mankind to destruction, according to exoteric theology; but, according to the true doctrine of the wisdom-religion, it indicated the degradation of the whole universe in its course of evolution downward from the subjective to the objective."

So the original 10 became 12. Virgo and Scorpio, the Virgin and the Serpent, linked in so many ways. So the second esoteric point is the origin of Virgo and Scorpio and the all the implications inherent in it.

posted November 06, 2016 10:57 PM            

also, Virgos are terrible at consoling other people. I know I cant console a cat let alone a person. I give good hugs, thou.

posted November 07, 2016 12:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:

Virgo gals have very pretty eyes, like almond shape eyes. But their eyes are most often quite unemotional. You cannot read a Virgo, I mean - cant see what a Virgo feels behind the facade. Or shall i say - you can only see what they let you see.

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posted November 07, 2016 12:49 AM            

I tend to overlook Virgo aswell lol

I think Virgo is the commoner, the one that keeps everything in place, they make sense of things using there own unique minds and are quite skeptical and analytical of others

The symbology of Virgo is similar to Scorpio but rather than being intense and wanting depth, it wants to keep everything neat and tidy and on a comfortable level, the 6th house is of work and servitude and without Virgos the world would just not work!

Personally, i'm a Sagittarius, i tend to find Virgos quite annoying

I think a metaphor could be that a Sagittarius is using a telescope and looking up into the stars, while the Virgo is using a microscope down on the ground ..

posted November 07, 2016 01:08 AM            

Everything i did he would be like, "why are you doing it like that, let me do it "

But obviously thats a first house Mars ...

I'm sure if someone had Venus conjunct Neptune in Virgo in the first house they would be lovely peeps.

posted June 24, 2020 10:23 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I am not a stereotypical Virgo, my partner who has a number of planets in the 6th house and Jupiter in Virgo can be more Virgo than me.

They like things to be in their place and for things to be clean and organized. They are very analytical, deep thinkers and detail oriented. If they have a strong Venus and Leo placements this can be a good recipe for a great artist and someone very creative good at coming up with creative solutions.

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posted June 25, 2020 02:00 AM            

i'm not particularly organized, orderly, or structured my mind definitely isn't a filing cabinet

don't need to always give advice i think some people need to **** up to learn and it's better to just let them

don't care if my **** is organized at all, not bothered by mess

havent used my bed in a while aside from throwing laundry on it, and my collection of empty water bottles all over the place is impressive

health conscious? not particularly outside of being aware of what i eat and whatnot but i smoke and my drug history is extensive

i'm a wreck of a human whether i'm working or not, me pulling my **** together is just a ***** and mundane day to day life **** holds little interest for me

don't give a **** about routine, can't keep one, too tedious and life happens anyway

i can manage it for someone else but not me

don't notice **** typically, paint a room around and i won't catch it (been proven) because i don't pay attention to most things

being useful is good and all, but i see no need to always be

put me in a room where i dont know what's going on and i'll adjust and deal, i'm perfectly comfortable being thrown into the fire and going from there

dont need all the details, find them tedious

cant picture **** dont always care if things can be improved either, i readily accept flaws

im fine with concepts dont need groubding for them

im fine on my own, prefer other people

dont make lists

good at consoling other people, people generally come to me with their issues because of it etc

posted June 25, 2020 07:19 AM            

I do however have a knack for organizing things efficiently. I procrastinate a lot, but when I finally do something I do it in the most efficient way possible. I structure the work beforehand in my mind, so that I can then do it as quickly as possible and then get back to being lazy. I also enjoy routines. I'll figure out the most efficient way of doing something and then I'll do it exactly the same way every time. Some parts of my home are also meticolously organized, like my kitchen cabinets. Everything has its proper place. Other parts of my home are hopeless messes, like my wardrobe, without that bothering me at all. Idk, I'm just not a very tidy person overall.

Oh, and I'm a wiz at filling a dishwasher or packing a suitcase. I can just look at a pile of stuff and tell if it's going to fit or not, and how to make it fit if at all possible. That's maybe a Virgo thing too? I also take a lot of pleasure in curating things, like book collections, pinterest boards, art exhibitions, etc. The exercise of fitting things together, in the best possible way, one piece at a time, like a jigsaw puzzle I guess, is just very satisfying. But I don't actually enjoy jigsaw puzzles, ironically enough. It's not as stimulating when there is just one right way that things will fit.