posted November 06, 2016 08:08 PM            

I am finishing up my questions. Lord, I will never ask for questions again. Just kidding!

The Sun is the essential identity of a native.

That is why one can guess Sun Signs.

My essential identity is Gemini, even though my heart is Cancer. My Sun is Gemini. My Moon is Cancer.

Now, with Saturn, we have a COOLING of what it touches.

When in trine, this can be excellent. Saturn disciplines. Saturn plans ahead. Saturn tells one to eat his peas before his desert.

Saturn tells one to study, so one can find a good job after college.

Saturn tells one not to drink too much, so one does not make a fool of oneself.

Saturn in trine is a wonderful gift!

Saturn in square may torment the native.

Saturn may whisper the worst fears.

Saturn may tell the person that he will never amount to anything.

That which was life giving in trine, may be life destroying in square.

If the ego is not destroyed, it may be subjected to severe battering.

The square, also, indicates a father whom it may have been impossible to please.

The pain of this may be pushed down deeply.

posted November 06, 2016 08:40 PM            

6th house Sun/Mercury in Sagittarius both square 9th house Saturn in Pisces ..

:d

Plus Saturn in Pisces is the ruler of my Moon/Netpune/Uranus in Capricorn, adds to self-doubt lol

posted November 06, 2016 10:25 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
I find Sun square Saturn individuals to be somewhat lacking in integrity. This is their challenge to become a person of great integrity.

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Sorry but I respectfully disagree.

Integrity:
the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness

Saturn is discipline, ambition, achievement, karma

Sun is your essence. Your inner light.

When sun squares saturn, you take a blow to that inner light, doubting if anything you do is worthy. You try harder to be a good person because you know the effects of saturns karma, but these natives arent lacking in integrity. If anything, the lack is in confidence. The challenge is to believe in themselves.

posted November 07, 2016 05:23 PM              

And I know some Cap suns who lack integrity, a Sun trine Saturn who lacks it.

I think Ami is right in saying Saturn cools what it touches, but this cooling will chafe at the native with the square whereas the native with the trine will find it more comfortable or natural to be that way.

posted November 08, 2016 08:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Lerena:
Is Sun square Saturn always a difficult aspect? I won't pretend my life has been "easy," but I don't really identify with the description of this square and this is one of the tightest aspects in my natal chart. Even when I Google search the aspect I only find descriptions that make it sound as if it's always going to be difficult for the person that has it and I don't think this is necessarily true.

I just think that with this square I have to work harder to get where I want to be, which doesn't really bother me.

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You may have things that mitigate the square, Lerena.

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posted November 08, 2016 09:01 AM            

I have a friend with an exact conjunction though and I have more integrity than she does honestly. She has honesty issues. I think that with Saturn though, they have to realize that their the only reason they're being held back; they're building their own walls that limit their own abilities.

posted November 08, 2016 10:06 AM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
do you believe that 12 degrees an orb is too wide to be considered a square with the sun and saturn 3 signs away (naturally square signs) given the fact that both the sun and saturn are huge bodies

for instance sun at 19 cancer and saturn at 7 libra

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I think that is personally too wide to be a square. The max I usually go for a square is eight degrees; some people go even lower than that. If you still feel like some sort of Saturn influence is there check out other Saturn influences in your chart. I've heard of 12 degrees for a conjunction (albeit quite weak of a conjunction), but not for a square.

posted November 08, 2016 10:15 AM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
do you believe that 12 degrees an orb is too wide to be considered a square with the sun and saturn 3 signs away (naturally square signs) given the fact that both the sun and saturn are huge bodies

for instance sun at 19 cancer and saturn at 7 libra

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Yes, my Friend, 12 would be too wide.

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posted November 09, 2016 09:22 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
I find Sun square Saturn individuals to be somewhat lacking in integrity. This is their challenge to become a person of great integrity.

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I disagree with this too and I haven't had to work on it either. Integrity, standards, morals have always been high, unfortunately.

posted November 09, 2016 09:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Yes, my Friend, 12 would be too wide.

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posted November 10, 2016 12:00 AM              

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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
I find Sun square Saturn individuals to be somewhat lacking in integrity. This is their challenge to become a person of great integrity.

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I disagree with this statement and actually take offense to it because this is, in fact, my nature. We have the utmost integrity. It is at my core. This is what keeps me going when life seems unkind. Knowing I was honest and true to myself, got me through a lot of disappointments.

I WAS born with it.

I have Sun square Saturn 4 degrees and Moon trine Saturn 1 degree.

posted April 03, 2020 12:38 PM            

On both accounts.
Sun square Saturn self regulates. No one has to tell them right from wrong. Even if they do something "wrong" they tend to feel more guilt than the average person, and usually don't do it again.

Example: once I was at a NYE party with my husband. Everyone was drinking and having a great time. At midnight people kissed each other. Just a quick peck type of thing... but the man who owned my local convenience store grabbed my face and planted one on me. No tongue, but waaaayyyy too familiar. It bothered me all night long. And the next day. I couldnt sleep. So, finally I told my husband about it. He wasn't mad at me. But we started going to a different carry out 😂.