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Mystic_Cat
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posted November 06, 2016 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wondering how everyone perceives these charts? I'm looking at the progression as a sort of secondary Natal .. i'm not sure on how to understand the Solar return really ...

How do you interpret them ?

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Kannon McAfee
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posted November 06, 2016 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The secondary progressed chart simply follows the natural movements of the planets as they continued after the 'snapshot' of the birth chart. The secondary progressed calculated points, however, are symbolic fictions (Asc, house cusps, MC).

The solar return does not need a chart of its own with a whole new set of houses. I don't use them. In my view the significance of solar returns has been overplayed. Watch your ongoing transits rather than try to reduce the next year to a single chart with all new houses.

The only houses that matter are those set by an accurate birth chart.

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Mystic_Cat
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posted November 06, 2016 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
The secondary progressed chart simply follows the natural movements of the planets as they continued after the 'snapshot' of the birth chart. The secondary progressed calculated points, however, are symbolic fictions (Asc, house cusps, MC).

The solar return does not need a chart of its own with a whole new set of houses. I don't use them. In my view the significance of solar returns has been overplayed. Watch your ongoing transits rather than try to reduce the next year to a single chart with all new houses.

The only houses that matter are those set by an accurate birth chart.


Mm ok, its my birthday in 3 weeks so you'd say not to pay much attention to the Solar return?

I'm gettin the jist of the progression, cheers for the input.

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hypatia238
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posted November 07, 2016 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know yet how I feel about progressions or solar returns. I am keeping an eye on them but have never felt that convinced by their influence but am continuing to observe and have not formed an opinion yet.


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Mystic_Cat
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posted November 07, 2016 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I don't know yet how I feel about progressions or solar returns. I am keeping an eye on them but have never felt that convinced by their influence but am continuing to observe and have not formed an opinion yet.


Mm ok , whats your view on the Draconic chart?

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Kannon McAfee
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posted November 07, 2016 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mystic_Cat:
Mm ok, its my birthday in 3 weeks so you'd say not to pay much attention to the Solar return?

I think it is more useful to treat yourself to a good natal interpretation and/or transits report that you can use for the next year.

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posted November 07, 2016 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The progressed Asc is an attraction point. It attracts the natal Sun of other people to itself.

Or, I can say, much as the pMoon attracts whatever Sun sign it's "transiting" so too does the pAsc attracts. pVenus attracts in the same way...And pSun.

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