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Topic: Aspects For Anger in the Natal Chart–Part Three
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Ami Anne
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posted November 17, 2016 06:06 PM
  
I think an area in which I am gifted is that I can get people to talk. With these articles on anger, people have had amazing discussions and I am loving it. We are learning new things about astrology and that is what it is all about. The true expert in any aspect is the native who has that aspect. Yours Truly is a humble, seven year astrology student.I have five new aspects for your perusal. 1. Mars conjunct the IC
This was given to me by one of my LL buddies, Angel. This aspect makes so much sense, but I did not think of it. Anything that conjuncts the IC shows us the tone of the native’s childhood home. In the case of Mars, it may have been anger. Hence, the native may struggle with anger. 2. Mars Oppose Pluto
We talked about Mars square Pluto and Mars conjunct Pluto. Each variation has it’s own traits. With the opposition, there is a jumping from one extreme to the other. That is the nature of the opposition, in general. In this case, the native may simmer in anger for a period of time. Then, he may explode with anger. Then, he may go back to simmering. Then, in time, he may explode. It seems as if there is no middle ground with the opposition. 3. Pluto Conjunct the IC
I have seen this often enough to know that there was a violent childhood. Hence, anger is wrought in the children. 4. Mars Square the Moon
I cannot stand this aspect, although I am attracted to men with it. This would be under the category of being attracted to people who will hurt you.*Sigh and Moving on* I get more flak from talking about Mars square the Moon than most other things I talk about.. Men with this aspect tell me that they love women. Then, I will dial down my response to say that men with this aspect “mistrust” women. That will, usually, quell the argumentative gents in any group,but between you and me, it is, really, dislike. 5 Sun Conjunct Neptune
You may wonder why I put this here. The reason is that these natives may be very angry that they do not have sufficient “get up and go” to get out of their parent’s basement and live on their own, metaphorically speaking. Sun Conjunct Neptune may have a blurred sense of self. Hence, it, truly, is difficult to get out there and make a mark on the world. It is, really, through no fault of his own. However, he is, likely, very angry at the losses in his life and resentful of others who have become successes. ------------------
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teasel
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posted November 17, 2016 06:44 PM
Mars square Moon/Venus. When it comes to friends, I end up being attracted to people who will hurt me. I've only had that happen once with a man; the rest were men who were attracted to me, and I wasn't interested. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted November 17, 2016 07:33 PM
I disagree with Sun/Neptune conjunction. It's like saying a fish is angry because it can only live in the water. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 17, 2016 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
I disagree with Sun/Neptune conjunction. It's like saying a fish is angry because it can only live in the water.
You may have a point there, my Friend. ------------------
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Piscean Tigress
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posted November 17, 2016 07:39 PM
Ami AnneWhat about Mars conjunct Saturn? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 17, 2016 07:41 PM
CCI do find them to be envious of "successful" people though and that would be a form of anger ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted November 17, 2016 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by Piscean Tigress:
Ami AnneWhat about Mars conjunct Saturn?
You tell me what you think, PT. ------------------
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Piscean Tigress
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posted November 17, 2016 11:43 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You tell me what you think, PT
Saturn is restrain and Mars it's aggression; maybe could down temper this aspect, but it can be like controlled anger until a point of not return, so the result can be "cold rage", with a cruel tone, because you can't feel the pain in the other one that you make. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 18, 2016 08:08 AM
WELL SAID. PT!------------------
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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted November 18, 2016 08:11 AM
what about sun trine and sun opposite neptune people?IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted November 18, 2016 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
CCI do find them to be envious of "successful" people though and that would be a form of anger
I have this aspect and at least for me the above isn't true. But maybe other Sun/Neptune conjunct people can comment. We are all different after all. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 18, 2016 10:16 AM
Maybe, Sun conj Neptune as an anger aspect was a stretch  ------------------
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Electro DGX
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posted November 18, 2016 10:27 AM
As a Sun-Neptune conjunct individual, I have to disagree as well. Yes, there can be a blurred sense of self due to a difficulty of understanding who one is, but I don't believe it makes one angry at other's successes. That is akin to Jealously, and I would identify this more with Sun conjunct Pluto more than Neptune. Neptune also softens the will thanks to its diffusive energies; think about its similarities to Mars in the 12th house. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted November 18, 2016 12:22 PM
I like to discuss things, so we all learn. I am not a master in astrology. We are all humble students, as I see it lol------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted November 18, 2016 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
what about sun trine and sun opposite neptune people?
I have sun trine Neptune. It is a good aspect for being creative. The opposition would be more of a struggle with creativity ------------------
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Randall
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posted November 21, 2016 03:46 PM
Great info!IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted November 21, 2016 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have sun trine Neptune. It is a good aspect for being creative.The opposition would be more of a struggle with creativity
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Ami Anne
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posted November 23, 2016 02:36 PM
You are most welcome, Girl!------------------
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posted November 23, 2016 03:03 PM
I don't think sun conjunction neptune is the right aspect.. it would be a more transparent, reflective, dreamer and delusional personalityNot anger
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Lerena
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posted November 23, 2016 06:21 PM
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4. Mars Square the Moon
I cannot stand this aspect, although I am attracted to men with it. This would be under the category of being attracted to people who will hurt you.*Sigh and Moving on* I get more flak from talking about Mars square the Moon than most other things I talk about.. Men with this aspect tell me that they love women. Then, I will dial down my response to say that men with this aspect “mistrust” women. That will, usually, quell the argumentative gents in any group,but between you and me, it is, really, dislike.[/B]
What about women with this aspect though? I don't really understand how this aspect functions in my chart. Would you say that women with this aspect mistrust men?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 23, 2016 06:40 PM
No, Lerena
It would be women, too.------------------
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posted November 23, 2016 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
No, Lerena
It would be women, too.
It would? Awkward. Do you know any aspects that would balance this out? I do not distrust women at all. Quite the opposite. However, I do have trouble trusting men. This is more of a learned thing than a natal aspect perhaps, but I'd like your opinion.  IP: Logged |
Astra
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posted November 24, 2016 11:03 AM
Great post, Ami! How do you figure out what aspects your IC?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 24, 2016 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by Radium:
I don't think sun conjunction neptune is the right aspect.. it would be a more transparent, reflective, dreamer and delusional personalityNot anger
Good call, Radium and I think you be right!
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posted November 24, 2016 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by Astra:
Great post, Ami! How do you figure out what aspects your IC?
Hi Astra!!
You just have to find the IC on the chart. It is exactly opposite the MC in opposite sign and the same degree xxx
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