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Topic: Placements of cheaters
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alludeu
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posted November 18, 2016 11:51 PM
  
I'd like to know the common aspects anyone has found in the charts of people who are unfaithful or just like to sleep around a lot. I know the gemini/sagittarius axis are probably the most prone to cheating (especially when one has venus or mars in one of those signs). Then I think aquarius would be the next most prone to infidelity. What are some other aspects y'all have come across that has shown cheating?IP: Logged |
strawberryaa
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posted November 19, 2016 01:27 AM
Why do you think aqua is prone to cheating? Its a fixed sign isnt it..IP: Logged |
alludeu
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posted November 19, 2016 02:33 AM
Maybe not PRONE, but they're definitely the type as they tend not to get involved or attached too emotionally in relationships (or flings rather). Sex for them is a very unemotional and detached act for them. They can be very curious and may not even see the harm in sleeping with other people while in a relationship. They like their freedom. I've never known a person who has strong Aquarius influence (including Venus and or mars without any strong "loyal in relationship" sign in their chart) and not cheat (or do something a Scorpio would consider cheating lmao). Because Aquarius is an air sign it makes these natives very light hearted in most matters concerning personal involvments and may even resist to enter anything that would limit their need to socialise with whomever and to express themselves the way they need. They can be a non conformist in love matters (esp with Venus and mars in Aquarius) IP: Logged |
visions
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posted November 19, 2016 02:35 AM
cheaters = bad aspect between venus/mars and neptune and ofc a 12th house venus. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted November 19, 2016 03:37 AM
* a great potential for infidelity, venus/moon or mars/sun conjunct NN
also the placements of inner planets (moon, venus, mars) in virgo often, because they're perfectionist and always on the look for a better opportunity to present itself. not saying all the time, but I'd say very often. IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte
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posted November 19, 2016 04:07 AM
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Originally posted by visions:
cheaters = bad aspect between venus/mars and neptune and ofc a 12th house venus.
Very true, my dad has his Venus conj Neptune in the 2nd house and he would have 3 girlfriends at one time. He cheated on my mom a few times, I'm not sure if I've seen him with just one woman for too long, he'll have girlfriends but it seems like he still keeps his options open, also has a lot of Virgo, I feel like Virgo/Mercury is rather changeable and has a hard time settling for just one person and his sun is conj Mars and has Aries moon Also, my friend has an Aries stellium in the 12H with her Venus conj sun/moon/merc squaring Neptune/Saturn/Uranus and she's had her fair share of secret love affairs. She will like multiple guys and doesn't really like serious relationships, she's extremely flirtatious.
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alludeu
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posted November 19, 2016 04:14 AM
That may have been more of the gemini/sagittarius moon/asc coming out. Moon and ascendant also play very important parts in this topic as they are 2 of the main personality points.IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted November 19, 2016 04:16 AM
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alludeu
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posted November 19, 2016 04:35 AM
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Originally posted by visions:
cheaters = bad aspect between venus/mars and neptune and ofc a 12th house venus.
Oh wow I didn't know about 12th house venus. I'm gonna have to read up on that IP: Logged |
thegrinning_cat
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posted November 19, 2016 05:44 AM
Hard Venus-Saturn or Sun-Saturn Aspects can bring up issues of not feeling confident...there can be a constant need for validation from the outside, especially if Fire is prominent in the chart.Hard Aspects between Neptune and Mercury can lead to a lot of daydreaming and denying responsibility for actions. And Neptune Transits can activate longing for a higher love....which often leads to affairs. I'm an eighth House Virgo Sun/Mercury and from my experience there is often a problem with Virgo dividing between the "pure" love interest and the "dirty" sex.
The trouble of bringing both together in one person can lead to infidelity.
But it's just a carnal one. IP: Logged |
alludeu
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posted November 19, 2016 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by thegrinning_cat:
Hard Venus-Saturn or Sun-Saturn Aspects can bring up issues of not feeling confident...there can be a constant need for validation from the outside, especially if Fire is prominent in the chart.
Omg I have venus hard aspect saturn and I totally get the constant need for validation from other people (makes me feel really guilty about it though because I have mars in scorpio) and my venus is in leo!! IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted November 19, 2016 07:31 AM
Yes but what if the person who has Venus in Virgo also has Venus trine or sextile Saturn in their natal chart. Wouldn't that make the person take relationships/friendships more serious?
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
* a great potential for infidelity, venus/moon or mars/sun conjunct NN
also the placements of inner planets (moon, venus, mars) in virgo often, because they're perfectionist and always on the look for a better opportunity to present itself. not saying all the time, but I'd say very often.
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ChildofVenus
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posted November 19, 2016 07:32 AM
Would Venus square Uranus be one of them?IP: Logged |
alludeu
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posted November 19, 2016 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Would Venus square Uranus be one of them?
I've read that venus hard aspect uranus is supposed to be one of them, but I don't know enough about to give information on it..
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ChildofVenus
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posted November 19, 2016 09:13 AM
I have this aspect and yes I've read that this is a player aspect.
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Originally posted by alludeu:
I've read that venus hard aspect uranus is supposed to be one of them, but I don't know enough about to give information on it..
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unforgiven_soul
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posted November 19, 2016 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by visions:
cheaters = bad aspect between venus/mars and neptune and ofc a 12th house venus.
Not really. I have an Aquarius Venus in the 12th house and I hate cheaters. When I'm in a relationship I'm 100% devoted. IP: Logged |
strawberryaa
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posted November 19, 2016 10:54 AM
quote:
Originally posted by alludeu:
Maybe not PRONE, but they're definitely the type as they tend not to get involved or attached too emotionally in relationships (or flings rather). Sex for them is a very unemotional and detached act for them. They can be very curious and may not even see the harm in sleeping with other people while in a relationship. They like their freedom. I've never known a person who has strong Aquarius influence (including Venus and or mars without any strong "loyal in relationship" sign in their chart) and not cheat (or do something a Scorpio would consider cheating lmao). Because Aquarius is an air sign it makes these natives very light hearted in most matters concerning personal involvments and may even resist to enter anything that would limit their need to socialise with whomever and to express themselves the way they need. They can be a non conformist in love matters (esp with Venus and mars in Aquarius)
Hmm.. yes i do agree that they are quite deatached but what do you think if the person has all the planets in Aquarius in 8th house does it makes him more Scorpionic? IP: Logged |
alludeu
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posted November 19, 2016 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by strawberryaa:
Hmm.. yes i do agree that they are quite deatached but what do you think if the person has all the planets in Aquarius in 8th house does it makes him more Scorpionic?
It might make sexual encounters more intense for this person, maybe a bit more meaningful.. It might even make the typical nature of whatever planet in aquarius more hidden. You have to take the whole natal chart into account and of course transits play into "one time thing" cheating.
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misslani
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posted November 19, 2016 12:36 PM
Scorpio, despite the faithfulness rumours. And perhaps Mars in Aries or Gemini. Gemini influenced chart. I know due to my boyfriend and I. I´m very scorpionic, with Mars in Aries. And I firmly believe that one should follow one´s passions. So I do. If I get emotionally attached to someone, which happens rarely because I´m very protective of my emotions, I won´t cheat. But, if I feel this electricity with someone, despite being in a relationship, I go for it. I´ll honestly do anything for that feeling of thrill, excitement, passion... You get the drill. My bf was married before and he cheated. Once he stopped feeling fulfilled in a relationship, he didn´t go actively on to finding somebody to cheat with, but I guess he allowed himself to open up to the possibility. Once he found someone he liked, he just went for it. According to him, he managed to keep his emotions for his wife separate from his emotions for his gf. He cared about them both and even though he felt guilty about cheating on one person and not being able to really be there for the second person, he was too selfish to give up on either. Eventually, his marriage became unbearable and he left the wife, but by then his gf was sick of him not being there for her, left him and married someone else.IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted November 19, 2016 04:52 PM
Just for the record, my BFF is an Aquarius sun and Venus, and I've never known her to cheat in her life. And that's with a mutable Pisces moon and Mars along with a Gemini ASC and Sag Neptune. Also, there's a difference between nonconformist and untrustworthy. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted November 19, 2016 05:09 PM
I guess it all depends on the person's chart.My boyfriend used to be polyamorous and he has Venus in Gemini. I always thought of it as just an excuse for him to sleep with whoever he likes. He'd tell all his ex-girlfriends he was polyamorous except one of them, which basically is cheating. I just honestly think polyamory is an excuse for people to cheat without feeling guilty about it. His best friend also has Venus in Gemini, who has three other planets in that sign including his Sun. Although he believes in monogamy, he's quite flirtatious and gets distracted by women of all sorts. Even when he started dating someone, he went to a party with my boyfriend a couple weeks back and he was flirting with a bunch of other girls. If his Taurus girlfriend found out, he'd be shredded into pieces 😂. I know Venus in Aquarius is not really prone to cheating because they are a fixed sign after all, but if they feel unfulfilled in a relationship, they'll most likely try to find fulfillment somewhere else. But I guess that goes for everyone who is emotionally unstable, right? I have an acquaintance with Venus in Sagittarius. She doesn't explicitly cheat, but she likes to flirt and send pictures to other guys even when she's in a relationship. I personally think an afflicted Venus or Moon makes someone prone to cheating. You would think someone with Moon in Cancer won't cheat, but I've met one who has. He had Moon square Mars and Saturn, though. Also I think Venus in Pisces, 12th house Venus, or a Venus/Moon in aspect to Neptune could be cheating placements as well. Afflicted personal planets in either the 7th house or 8th house could be another one.
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next to neptune
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posted November 19, 2016 05:12 PM
also moon/venus hard aspects, and especially if libra is involved... they often have a hard time communicating their right feelings into their partnerships, gets misunderstood and then more likely to cheat - because they are very charming at the same time and like to be admired (emotionally approved by others) In general I'm not fond of libra moon, they are very unstable emotionally
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AmelieRose81
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posted November 19, 2016 06:44 PM
One of my exes was a serial cheater. He had mainly pisces placements and aqua. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted November 19, 2016 08:20 PM
In my experience, serial cheaters decried polaymory (which you can still cheat by breaking the rules agreed upon) because they're insecure and can't stand someone else cheating the way he or she does. This, along with trying to cover up their tracks, is probably why they tend to make a lot of noise about how important monogamy is to them, and also why they're prone to repeatedly accusing their partner of cheating (because cheaters expect other people to cheat, and it's yet another manifestation of the insecurity that drives them). My personal theory on serial cheaters, generally speaking, is that they're insecure who want to build up their ego by showing themselves they "still got it" (because bedding someone is more laudable to them than having integrity) while at the same time scared that if their partner slept around the same way that they'd be replaced by someone better. This is why most cheaters are uncomfortable with promoting polyamory, as they want to play the field, but don't want their partner to, and it's rooted in insecurity. (Though I think some are also just thrill seekers, in which case it's not fun unless it's forbidden.) In contrast, most of those I've known who embraced polyamory had a lot of self-confidence, which makes sense to me. This is related strictly to polyamory with some rules in place as opposed to "open relationships" and "swinging" and certain other social constructs that a person may have been raised within. IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun
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posted November 19, 2016 11:25 PM
Okay, this needs to be said, many placements or aspects could make someone more prone to cheating, but it definitely doesn't mean that they will. You really need to look at the house placement of the Venus and mars sign too. I'm an aqua Venus and a very late cap mars (almost aqua). I would never cheat on my significant other. I have my venus and mars in the 4th house. My best friend has a sag Venus, Sag mercury, and Sag sun, and he does not cheat. We were both cheated on by heavy Pisces men though. Even still, I know Pisces men that are very against cheating. Nothing is ever black and white. ------------------
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