posted November 20, 2016 10:13 AM            

Which natal aspect would you consider the most challenging for you ? one that you have to deal all your life, without being able to overcome or 'rein' in so to speak ?

I would love to know so that we can help each other, specially for those of us who share them.

I my personal exprience, the most difficult aspect in my natal is Moon Square Uranus.

I have been struggling with this aspect since my childhood and to be honest, I still don't know how to effectively deal with it. It's an an uncomfortable aspect to have and it is so deep-seated in me that I have no hope of 'getting over it' so to speak . It estranges you; makes you feel like someone outside your own life.

At times, I feel completely detached from everything around me, even my own physical self. Often, I find myself wondering why am I doing here, why do I live for, what would happen if I just don't wake up tomorrow or just disappear.

Sometimes, I just feel like I want to just let go of everything that ties me to anything and just..be. It makes my thoughts so weird and confusing. I often wonder what it will feel like if I go anywhere I want, anytime I want, start over, no responsibilities, no labels, no language barriers. Sometimes, I go by my life naturally, go to work, go to school and then go out with some friends, come back home, cook something and then all of sudden I will feel.. like I'm suffocating.
I start getting this unbearable urge to put my coat on and just roam the streets at midnight. Listen to the night and just breath and breath and breath before I choke up.

It's erratic and irrational and follows no logic, sometimes it makes you feel like you're on the edge of your own sanity. Sometimes everything just stops making sense and you just want to run away from everything and everyone.

I moved a lot as a child, my parents changed houses often and I had difficulties connecting with people. I was a loner and I only had my siblings as friends. I think that only deepened this sense of unpredictable detachment that bubbles up every now and then.

A second aspect that makes life difficult for me is Mercury Square Saturn.

With Moon Square Uranus, communicating my feelings is already bad enough but with the Mercury-Saturn Square, things somehow still manage to get even worse. I get plenty misunderstood by many around me. most rarely 'get' me. I know that my being quite rebellious and challenging of the social norms already makes me difficult for most normal people to talk to. Sometimes, I get hated by some people for no reason. When I ask, they say I think 'too much' outside the box. I look for things way beyond reality or that I am just plain 'weird'.

posted November 20, 2016 10:45 AM            

For me its been a struggle for years and years, I'm pretty emotional starting with that, my moon is in Pisces and those squares made me for so many years socially awkward, to this day I think I am somehow, very paranoid also, only people I grew up trusting was my family and even with them I had a lot of problems, they say now I was the one stepping back by choice but growing up I felt simply out of place even with them.

posted November 20, 2016 10:59 AM            

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Originally posted by areesquivel:
Moon Square Uranus too also Moon Square Neptune.

For me its been a struggle for years and years, I'm pretty emotional starting with that, my moon is in Pisces and those squares made me for so many years socially awkward, to this day I think I am somehow, very paranoid also, only people I grew up trusting was my family and even with them I had a lot of problems, they say now I was the one stepping back by choice but growing up I felt simply out of place even with them.

Its hard for me to try to understand this even now, back in the day I had no knowledge on astrology and I block things out of my life when they hurt so for the most part that's what I remember.

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I also share the Neptune-Moon Square with you and you have no idea how much I relate to everything you said. My moon is in Libra so I'm less emotional but that sense of being displaced, I completely understand.

Your moon in Pisces would be in my 7th House, I wonder if that would help in making me relate to you even more.

posted November 20, 2016 11:09 AM            

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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
I also share the Neptune-Moon Square with you and you have no idea how much I relate to everything you said. My moon is in Libra so I'm less emotional but that sense of being displaced, I completely understand.

Your moon in Pisces would be in my 7th House, I wonder if that would help in making me relate to you even more.

How was your childhood like ? did you move around a lot like me ? how do you feel about your parents ?

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posted November 20, 2016 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by areesquivel:
I didn't move around at all actually, childhood was I don't even know how to describe it, I grew up being the outsider, even now my family tell me how they were "scared of me" but in my household I don't have many memories with my mom, she spent more time outside the house working and traveling, it was all about my dad I can remember though there were no happy memories, he was pretty strict with his children, they divorced when I was 11 and I went to a depression back then, I guess my social awkwardness begin there.

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I see now. I think the Neptune-Moon Square manifests itself in your case through the absence of the maternal figure. You weren't as emotionally nurtured as you were supposed to be, by your mother. That would explain that sense of detachment you feel towards your family. We, as humans, learn how to connect and build relationships through our parents. But when we don't, we grew lacking that ability to connect and in a sense to belong.

In my case, my Neptune-Moon Square is evident in the way I used to view my own mother as a 'victim' of her marriage. I perceived her as weak,submissive and dependent. I blamed her for years for taking in my father's emotional abuse and not standing up for herself.
I hated how she was like even though I love her dearly.

In a sense, I developed this complex of having to always be independent of the men I'm with. I never let them in too close. I keep them at a certain emotional distance and that's why none of my relationships work/last.

posted November 20, 2016 12:33 PM            

Romantically you're describing my life also, this is so weird, you're like my astrological twin, I've been dealing with relationships with man who are far away from me, I guess is my way to not let them actually close, grew up thinking man either leave or hurt women, so I'm always in distance cause I know once I let them in they can easily destroy me.

posted November 20, 2016 12:43 PM            

My mom is very religious and spiritual and she is a doctor and was a workaholic growing up but even though she was busy a lot I felt suffocated by her and like her presence was too strong and felt there was a lack of boundaries of were I started and she began. She was anxious and overprotective, I felt she wanted me to be her and mold me into her. I eventually started to dislike religion bc of her obsession with it and how pushy she was about it but for a while there religion was a positive part of my life. I did look up to her and saw her as a super woman for all her accomplishments and hard work.

My relationship with her is best when I live very far away from her as her influence affects me less. She is a truly great mom I want to be clear about that but I feel more close to her far away from her, I feel more relaxed and comfortable. I actually talk to her a lot more and our relationship has gotten better now that I live in Colorado and she is in Florida. The distance helps with setting healthy boundaries with her that is why. Our communication was not great growing up, I felt she couldn't hear me, I have moon opposite mercury. My relationship with her is intense but I love her still.

Now my dad and I are close and get along wonderful, he gives me the space I need and never makes me feel I can't breath or like he is pushy or he is imposing his will. He was very nurturing and affectionate towards me growing up. I am his only biological daughter. I feel calm and relaxed around him. His moon conjuncts my sun. His moon conjuncts my mercury and our moons oppose. He grounds me and we communicate great. I am his little girl. I guess I put him up in a pedestal but he has been a great dad and he is a therapist so that must have helped with that. He wasn't full time around during the 2nd decade of my life bc of his business that he inhereted from his father, he had to travel a lot back and forth from our home town to the US due to business.

I have sun opposite moon which square Neptune making Neptune the apex of the t-square and the midpoint of sun/moon. I am my parents only biological daughter. My dad had a spiritual experience that told him he should marry my mother even though he was having doubts bc she was a workaholic and I am the result of that decision. The thing is that I am spiritual too but I broke off from the Church in my early 20s so my spirituality is different from theirs and this is a source of disconnection between them and I. I don't feel as close to them bc we don't share the same type of spirituality yet we still find some common ground spiritually in a sense.

posted November 20, 2016 01:07 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
In a nutshell for me moon in Pisces square Neptune represents a mother who was afraid of water while she was pregnant with me and I had nightmares that I was stranded in the middle of the ocean with no shore in sight alone when I was a kid. It represents a mother who is too religious as in my perception she depends too much in religion. It represents a mother who was a workaholic and someone whose boundaries were too porous with her daughter bc daughter felt she had to fight hard to shape her own identity independent of her mother's influence and move far away to truly find herself.

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posted November 20, 2016 01:14 PM            

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Originally posted by areesquivel:
That hits me hard, moon in Pisces square Neptune here, my mother is not religious per say but she's super spiritual and growing up she was a workaholic, I never saw her growing up, now I do cause she's retired but still she's into spiritual matters, I share that with her so there's no conflict, only thing is I feel too attached to her to this day, I still live with her which is weird, been thinking to move and actually trying job interviews outside my city so I can move and now seeing your post guess that's the best choice.

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posted November 20, 2016 01:59 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Moon in Pisces square Neptune:
Its a lesson about learning to say no to the mother and about emotional and psychological boundary setting and learning to define ourselves independent of their influence and attachment we have to them and getting them to accept and respect those differences, we are not an extension of them, we are separate individuals.

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posted November 20, 2016 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by areesquivel:
I will print this I swear cause I need to hear this every day.

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posted November 20, 2016 04:18 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Venus square Uranus and Venus in Pisces I hate having Venus in Pisces.

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posted November 20, 2016 11:21 PM            

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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
We all have those, harsh contacts that can be truly challenging especially if it's of a more internal nature.

Which natal aspect would you consider the most challenging for you ? one that you have to deal all your life, without being able to overcome or 'rein' in so to speak ?

I would love to know so that we can help each other, specially for those of us who share them.

I my personal exprience, the most difficult aspect in my natal is [b]Moon Square Uranus.

I have been struggling with this aspect since my childhood and to be honest, I still don't know how to effectively deal with it. It's an an uncomfortable aspect to have and it is so deep-seated in me that I have no hope of 'getting over it' so to speak . It estranges you; makes you feel like someone outside your own life.

At times, I feel completely detached from everything around me, even my own physical self. Often, I find myself wondering why am I doing here, why do I live for, what would happen if I just don't wake up tomorrow or just disappear.

Sometimes, I just feel like I want to just let go of everything that ties me to anything and just..be. It makes my thoughts so weird and confusing. I often wonder what it will feel like if I go anywhere I want, anytime I want, start over, no responsibilities, no labels, no language barriers. Sometimes, I go by my life naturally, go to work, go to school and then go out with some friends, come back home, cook something and then all of sudden I will feel.. like I'm suffocating.
I start getting this unbearable urge to put my coat on and just roam the streets at midnight. Listen to the night and just breath and breath and breath before I choke up.

It's erratic and irrational and follows no logic, sometimes it makes you feel like you're on the edge of your own sanity. Sometimes everything just stops making sense and you just want to run away from everything and everyone.

I moved a lot as a child, my parents changed houses often and I had difficulties connecting with people. I was a loner and I only had my siblings as friends. I think that only deepened this sense of unpredictable detachment that bubbles up every now and then.

A second aspect that makes life difficult for me is Mercury Square Saturn.

With Moon Square Uranus, communicating my feelings is already bad enough but with the Mercury-Saturn Square, things somehow still manage to get even worse. I get plenty misunderstood by many around me. most rarely 'get' me. I know that my being quite rebellious and challenging of the social norms already makes me difficult for most normal people to talk to. Sometimes, I get hated by some people for no reason. When I ask, they say I think 'too much' outside the box. I look for things way beyond reality or that I am just plain 'weird'.

Anyone else sharing these aspects ? I would love to hear how it feels for you. For those who don't, feel free to share your most challenging natal aspects [/B]

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posted November 21, 2016 11:21 AM            

Stay away from things that will aggravate or intensify your feelings of anger i.e the injustices in the world that you cant do anything about i.e slave movies,human trafficking docs,series of women/children being degraded/exploited, slasher movies, movies/news of racism or excessive violence etc.

Instead focus your attention on things that assert the feelings of being alive; generosity of giving, inspirational talks/media, new discoveries, animal documentaries,"hero" stories or acts of love for your fellow man,funny child videos or dog videos etc. Things that cultivate feelings of warmth and joy in your heart.

Mars conjunct Dsc
Moon square Dsc
Mercury square Dsc

Don't apologize for liking to "spar" with your partner and being the more assertive one when it comes to your relationships. Nor should you apologize for wanting an attentive,passionate and communicative lover.

Don't fear being challenged by others- even physically. Fighting to defend yourself or assert yourself is an act of self love.

But be sure to brush off situations that may elicit an irrational anger or confrontation i.e being short-changed at the mall, sitting next to a rowdy "rugby boy" club at a restaurant or someone accidentally stepping over you when crossing the street.

posted November 21, 2016 04:18 PM            

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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
We all have those, harsh contacts that can be truly challenging especially if it's of a more internal nature.

Which natal aspect would you consider the most challenging for you ? one that you have to deal all your life, without being able to overcome or 'rein' in so to speak ?

I would love to know so that we can help each other, specially for those of us who share them.

I my personal exprience, the most difficult aspect in my natal is [b]Moon Square Uranus.

I have been struggling with this aspect since my childhood and to be honest, I still don't know how to effectively deal with it. It's an an uncomfortable aspect to have and it is so deep-seated in me that I have no hope of 'getting over it' so to speak . It estranges you; makes you feel like someone outside your own life.

At times, I feel completely detached from everything around me, even my own physical self. Often, I find myself wondering why am I doing here, why do I live for, what would happen if I just don't wake up tomorrow or just disappear.

Sometimes, I just feel like I want to just let go of everything that ties me to anything and just..be. It makes my thoughts so weird and confusing. I often wonder what it will feel like if I go anywhere I want, anytime I want, start over, no responsibilities, no labels, no language barriers. Sometimes, I go by my life naturally, go to work, go to school and then go out with some friends, come back home, cook something and then all of sudden I will feel.. like I'm suffocating.
I start getting this unbearable urge to put my coat on and just roam the streets at midnight. Listen to the night and just breath and breath and breath before I choke up.

It's erratic and irrational and follows no logic, sometimes it makes you feel like you're on the edge of your own sanity. Sometimes everything just stops making sense and you just want to run away from everything and everyone.

I moved a lot as a child, my parents changed houses often and I had difficulties connecting with people. I was a loner and I only had my siblings as friends. I think that only deepened this sense of unpredictable detachment that bubbles up every now and then.

A second aspect that makes life difficult for me is Mercury Square Saturn.

With Moon Square Uranus, communicating my feelings is already bad enough but with the Mercury-Saturn Square, things somehow still manage to get even worse. I get plenty misunderstood by many around me. most rarely 'get' me. I know that my being quite rebellious and challenging of the social norms already makes me difficult for most normal people to talk to. Sometimes, I get hated by some people for no reason. When I ask, they say I think 'too much' outside the box. I look for things way beyond reality or that I am just plain 'weird'.

Anyone else sharing these aspects ? I would love to hear how it feels for you. For those who don't, feel free to share your most challenging natal aspects [/B]

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Wow that was amazing to read... I feel the same way so much!!! I've always had friends though, but everytime I get too close with people I kinda rebel against it and f*** it up... I don't know why actually...I just like to be alone, but at the same time I really long for being in a community and group of friends. With time my friendship has gotten more stabile and those friends I have now, have accepted that I get detached once in a while... and with time I have learned to cope with those feelings, but I always return to my friends and we really have a great time

Another really hard aspect for me is my Mercury square Neptune exact. It is just really hard, because it is really hard for me to concentrate and listen when people tell me something important. I space out all the time, I actually space out so much that sometimes I think it's not healthy :P
Often I also get all these....disturbing thoughts I cannot control. And because it is so hard for me to concentrate and ignore it, it often consumes me totally and makes me kinda annoyed and irritated with myself.