posted November 23, 2016 01:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
He started to unravel after his mother died.

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I hear a lot of people say this.

He is a Cancer Rising. I'd imagine just about everyone with this placement takes it exceptionally hard when their mother passes because, as a Cancer Rising, so much of your life view centers around your Mom.

Angelina Jolie still publicly dedicates speeches and many things she does to her late mom, who also passed away several years ago. She is a Crab Rising but also has Moon in Aries. So, I'd imagine it was a less dependent bond and she is still able to be her own person (in fact, she says things like the memory of her mother actually empowers her to make certain choices now).

Kanye's Moon in Pisces ruling his chart is probably a different story. Pisces Moon people already feel this "oneness" with their Mom and when it's the chart ruler, you would think that losing the mother would potentially open up an emotional Pandora's Box for that person and disrupt their life in a profound way.

So, the theories that his grief for her started to push him over the edge over the years does have some weight, astrology-wise.

posted November 23, 2016 11:42 AM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
I hear a lot of people say this.

He is a Cancer Rising. I'd imagine just about everyone with this placement takes it exceptionally hard when their mother passes because, as a Cancer Rising, so much of your life view centers around your Mom.

Angelina Jolie still publicly dedicates speeches and many things she does to her late mom, who also passed away several years ago. She is a Crab Rising but also has Moon in Aries. So, I'd imagine it was a less dependent bond and she is still able to be her own person (in fact, she says things like the memory of her mother actually empowers her to make certain choices now).

Kanye's Moon in Pisces ruling his chart is probably a different story. Pisces Moon people already feel this "oneness" with their Mom and when it's the chart ruler, you would think that losing the mother would potentially open up an emotional Pandora's Box for that person and disrupt their life in a profound way.

So, the theories that his grief for her started to push him over the edge over the years does have some weight, astrology-wise.

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posted November 23, 2016 12:24 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
For those who don't know, there is an idea that Kanye might run for POTUS in 2020:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/kanye-west-talks-aboiut-runn ing-president-2020-article-1.2871606

Heh, he's just as qualified, and I think an even bigger success than Trump with many of his traits. So why not?

Some of his personal philosophy of life:
http://www.menshealth.com/fitness/kanye-west

I'd LOVE to see him campaign against Trump! (And I hope it's still Trump at the helm rather than Pence.) Seeing him go off on Congress and the Senate would also be highly entertaining. All in all, it would be reality show gold, and our election process has just become yet another reality show, so again, why not? President West 2020!

My Libra Saturn recoils from what the political process in the USA has become, but my Sag stellium (especially Uranus) LOVES it, it's comedy gold, and full of surprises.

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Trump has his flaws personality wise yes but there is good reason why half of the country voted for him and not Hillary and instead of laughing at our election and assuming that half of the country are just racist bigots try to understand the real reasons why most people voted for him instead of judging and assuming the worst.

First Brexit, now the US and the Republican party in France next. This world wide trend is happening for good reason.

posted November 23, 2016 01:06 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well after he spoke out the way he did on his concert about politics I am seeing a side of him I was not aware of. He is actually politically aware and had the guts to speak his mind even though the music and Hollywood industry is dominated by liberals and the Illuminati and doing so could be career suicide. Anyways I have more respect for him now and pray that he gets well soon.

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posted November 23, 2016 05:33 PM            

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Trump has his flaws personality wise yes but there is good reason why half of the country voted for him and not Hillary and instead of laughing at our election and assuming that half of the country are just racist bigots try to understand the real reasons why most people voted for him instead of judging and assuming the worst.

First Brexit, now the US and the Republican party in France next. This world wide trend is happening for good reason.

This former Obama supporter explains to Liberals why people voted for Trump: http://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1237683786302476&id=597876886949839

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I don't have FB, so I can't watch it. Going by the comments I could see, I figure she's saying something like this post. Also, I'm not a liberal, at least not in the way conservatives define (and most liberals are suspicious of my views anyway, and often mistake me for a conservative as often as conservatives mistake me for a liberal). I will say I used to identify as a libertarian and anarcho-capitalist as you seem to be or sympathize with today, though I eventually saw through that ideology (at least those who claim to hold it and the LP itself, not to be confused with "small-l libertarians") just as you claim to have seen through liberal ideology. Though I'm more moderate these days, I still lean that way somewhat (though with a healthy distrust of any ideological propaganda).

Half the country didn't vote for him, and not even half the voters did.

And I know some, perhaps many, who voted for Trump were actually voting for Spence (who would've stayed home if they were looking at someone they saw as a sinful gambler, playboy, etc, but figure Pence can straighten him out or God will strike Trump dead so Pence can take over as that's how some people actually think the world works), or at least against Hillary. Unfortunately, Kanye West may have to choose a VP like Pence, or someone else similarly extreme in a different way, to get the votes he otherwise wouldn't, just as Trump did.

I know one guy voted Trump as a big FU to the establishment (and therefore might vote for Kanye for the same reason), and that guy who voted Trump (but hasn't joined his personality cult) stood up quite bravely against racists who acted as if they might get violent and know he still would today. He also played a drinking game that made fun of "Fair and Balanced" FOX News mentioning Obama in a derogatory and non-professional manner (and lucky his mother stopped him as he was quickly entering alcohol poisoning territory ). He's still that same guy, but he wasn't actually voting for Trump, and he believes the government is overrated anyway, and he hopes they, and the public, learn that with a Trump presidency (and thus his vote for Trump being a big FU).

Finally, what I was referring to was the electoral process itself, such as the debates. I talked to quite a few people ranging from their 40s to 70s, though all but one were independent, neither Republican nor Democrat, with different primary concerns. They all have talked about what I've been noticing, which is an increasing loss of dignity in the process and in the debates (and now what follows, though the insanity on both sides seems primarily on the internet and the news rather than real life), which I could go on a long time about (these were all people with many thoughts on it, and interesting enough is that despite their different emphasis on what they considered important they all about agreed with each other on how it has slowly changed for the worse over the decades, and now I no longer let myself think it won't get any worse than this, it WILL be even worse next time).

As for Trump himself, my expectations for him even lower than what they were for Obama in 2008. Obama pleasantly surprised me, but then given how bad I expected him to be that wasn't hard (I might've been less impressed with him had Republicans not been so determined to "make him fail" even when it hurt America, as long as they could blame Obama's policies rather than all his compromises and downright capitulations to those who blamed him, which caused me to cut President Obama some slack in what I saw him failing to do). It will be even easier for Trump to pleasantly surprise me for the same reason, and I hope he does. He's already heading in that direction, and if something I heard about what he's going to do (something Hillary and any other standard politician, Democrat or Republican, never would've done, with the possible exception of Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders) is true (fingers crossed) then he'll take a big step in that direction, but it won't be possible until he's actually POTUS and we see which way the winds blow him.

posted November 24, 2016 08:25 AM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Kim and Kanye both being Pisces Moons it's interesting to note what a hard year it's been for them with this Neptune/Saturn square

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ugh add me to this group,i hate 2016 the worst ever,may it never repeat - i am under huuuuuuge emotional and physical stress,few weeks ago it was hell on earth

In Kanyes it reflects well to pisces representing his wife being in some kind of trouble,and this now he is going through means he has EMOTIONAL problems,i dont think he is ''crazy'' as they say,depression maybe,but more based on emotions and neptune there might mean obsessive toughts -hyper activity of brain,bad dreams,even spiritual chalanges i belive