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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 24, 2016 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All,

I don't know if this topic has been addressed before. But nevertheless I am interested in talking about these so called "minor aspects" and what they actually mean.

So anyone with insight, please feel free to post as perhaps there could be some "aha" moments to be had by someone else?

I have quite a few but having a hard time understanding them consistently

Chiron inconjunct Sun
Chiron inconjunct Neptune
Chiron inconjunct Pluto
Chiron sesquiquadrate Mercury

North Node sesquiquadrate Pluto
North Node inconjunct Venus
North Node inconjunct Mercury

Neptune semisquare Saturn
Neptune Quintile Mars

Uranus semisextile Saturn
Uranus Biquintile Moon

Saturn semisquare Sun

Mars semisextile Venus
Mars Quintile Sun

I tend to ignore them(well maybe not always the inconjunct), but the rest I dodge. Any insights anyone has to share with regards to the ones that they have?

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posted November 24, 2016 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only one I pay the most attention to is the quincunx (inconjunct) for I put it along the lines of a major aspect. I believe it to be the strongest of the minor aspects. As for the other minor aspects however, I tend to ignore them unless I'm doing one of Donna Cunningham's planetary tests lol.

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posted November 24, 2016 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
The only one I pay the most attention to is the quincunx (inconjunct) for I put it along the lines of a major aspect. I believe it to be the strongest of the minor aspects. As for the other minor aspects however, I tend to ignore them unless I'm doing one of Donna Cunningham's planetary tests lol.

Great. Which planets are involved in the inconjunct and how do they play out?

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posted November 24, 2016 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Inconjunct or quincunx is basically almost an opposition or a trine, but not quite.

Let's say Aries and Virgo / Aries and Scorpio.

They're in different elements, opposite gender, and different modalities. Aries is opposite to Libra, but Virgo sits right next to Libra, and so does Scorpio. Both Virgo and Scorpio would make an inconjunct/quincunx aspect with Aries.

Their energies don't necessarily clash, but they do different things in different ways. At least, that's how I interpret it. It's not as stressful as the square or opposition, but also not as easy as the trine or the sextile.

I do agree the inconjunct is the most powerful. You can still feel this (depending on the orb you use), unlike the other minor aspects. Just like major aspects, it's more potent when it's tighter.

I also believe the next powerful aspect is the semisextile. It's a flowing minor aspect. Two planets sitting in consecutive signs would make a semisextile. Just like the inconjunct, this minor aspect forms when two planets are in different modalities, different elements, and opposite gender. I'm not really sure how to explain this one, but I have this with my Sun and Moon.

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posted November 24, 2016 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So-called!!! (Love it, Aries23Degrees ..)

I have an "unaspected" Sun to traditional planets... except for a semi and a sesqui. I can appreciate how minor sometimes isn't so minor!

Remember... It's just energy. Depends on how you want to frame it. And some stress is GOOD!

Quincunx / Inconjunct means an ADJUSTMENT is needed.
(It's an emotional adjustment.)
e.g. Oil and Water trying to mix.


'Stress & Alert' States

Semi-square = "stress and alert" state,
Like the energy just BEFORE an action begins.
e.g. the runners are at the start line, waiting to hear the shot

Sesqui-square = "stress and alert" state,
Like the energy WHILE an action is going on.
e.g. while driving you see a street light (yellow) about to turn red!

ref. notes from a while ago, listening to astrologers
Jeff Jawer & Rick Levine in discussion
DailyPlanetHoroscopes (PlanetPulse)

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posted November 24, 2016 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think minor just means "we know less about these aspects and how they manifest" bc yeah nothing minor about inconjunctions, semisextiles and sesquisquares from what I have noticed.

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posted November 24, 2016 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More findings...

Betty Lunsted (c1980)
Astrological Insights into Personality
Ibis Press c2004
Quoting p. 106 introduction

QUINCUNX = "Straining"

This aspect indicates strain and has been considered the classic 'health' aspect.

Two ideas or two life activities are straining against each other, but not in as difficult an angle as that of the square or opposition.

Because the tension is not clearly visible, two facets of personality may conflict, while the owner does nothing to bring them together.

Time and energy may be wasted, and eventually the body rebels.

The energy can be released as it is understood and allowed to function in some kind of perspective.

endQuote http://www.amazon.com/Astrological-Insights-Personality-Betty-Lundsted/dp/0892540982

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posted November 25, 2016 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've found that these aspects are often much overlooked in my opinion. I've found Semisextiles and Senisquares seem as if they can be significant... especially if backed up also by declination.

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posted November 25, 2016 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lynn Koiner has some interesting observations, including how it applied to events in her own life.... And besides that?, she's a gemmy! LOL

Some of you who are relatively new to astrology might find treasures here.

Glean what you can from some of her wisdoms and thought processing, and apply them to your formative thoughts.

Grow with Astrology... and Be Blessed!
http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/minor-aspects-in-the-n atal-chart-by-transit-and-by-progression

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posted November 25, 2016 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Inconjunct or quincunx is basically almost an opposition or a trine, but not quite.

Let's say Aries and Virgo / Aries and Scorpio.

They're in different elements, opposite gender, and different modalities. Aries is opposite to Libra, but Virgo sits right next to Libra, and so does Scorpio. Both Virgo and Scorpio would make an inconjunct/quincunx aspect with Aries.

Their energies don't necessarily clash, but they do different things in different ways. At least, that's how I interpret it. It's not as stressful as the square or opposition, but also not as easy as the trine or the sextile.

I do agree the inconjunct is the most powerful. You can still feel this (depending on the orb you use), unlike the other minor aspects. Just like major aspects, it's more potent when it's tighter.

I also believe the next powerful aspect is the semisextile. It's a flowing minor aspect. Two planets sitting in consecutive signs would make a semisextile. Just like the inconjunct, this minor aspect forms when two planets are in different modalities, different elements, and opposite gender. I'm not really sure how to explain this one, but I have this with my Sun and Moon.


I understand the theoretical background behind it all.I was just hoping for real-life examples of when such aspects manifested

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posted November 25, 2016 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
So-called!!! (Love it, Aries23Degrees ..)

I have an "unaspected" Sun to traditional planets... except for a semi and a sesqui. I can appreciate how minor sometimes isn't so minor!

Remember... It's just energy. Depends on how you want to frame it. And some stress is GOOD!

Quincunx / Inconjunct means an ADJUSTMENT is needed.
(It's an emotional adjustment.)
e.g. Oil and Water trying to mix.


'Stress & Alert' States

[b]Semi-square = "stress and alert" state,
Like the energy just BEFORE an action begins.
e.g. the runners are at the start line, waiting to hear the shot

Sesqui-square = "stress and alert" state,
Like the energy WHILE an action is going on.
e.g. while driving you see a street light (yellow) about to turn red!

ref. notes from a while ago, listening to astrologers
Jeff Jawer & Rick Levine in discussion
DailyPlanetHoroscopes (PlanetPulse)[/B]


Lol. Well I put it quotation marks because I don't quite buy it

U gave some interesting definitions

Inconjunct- Adjustment needed.
Sesqui-square/Semi-square-"Stress and alert"

Will investigate...

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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 25, 2016 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I think minor just means "we know less about these aspects and how they manifest" bc yeah nothing minor about inconjunctions, semisextiles and sesquisquares from what I have noticed.

Ooooh. Do tell Would love to hear experiences form you

I think I am more likely to discern their nature when in synastry I guess. Am too blind to them natally perhaps?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 25, 2016 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
[b]QUINCUNX = "Straining"

This aspect indicates strain and has been considered the classic 'health' aspect.

Two ideas or two life activities are straining against each other, but not in as difficult an angle as that of the square or opposition.

Because the tension is not clearly visible, two facets of personality may conflict, while the owner does nothing to bring them together.

Time and energy may be wasted, and eventually the body rebels.[/B]


Thanks for this. So I guess its kind of like the silent killer?

Not as "loud" as the sqaure but munching away at you in silence? Hmmm

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posted November 25, 2016 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
I've found that these aspects are often much overlooked in my opinion. I've found Semisextiles and Senisquares seem as if they can be significant... especially if backed up also by declination.

Examples please. I have a Venus/Mars semi sextile that has perplexed me as I really don't "see" how it plays out.

Sun semisquare Saturn I could discern to be my serious approach to life- coupled with Moon/Mercury/Venus in aspect to Saturn.

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posted November 25, 2016 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
Lynn Koiner has some interesting observations, including how it applied to events in her own life.... And besides that?, she's a gemmy! LOL

Some of you who are relatively new to astrology might find treasures here.

Glean what you can from some of her wisdoms and thought processing, and apply them to your formative thoughts.

Grow with Astrology... and Be Blessed!


Thanks

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posted November 25, 2016 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The fact that there is an aspect between Mars/Venus suggests that there is something at work here.

Mars to any personal planet suggests that indifference is difficult.There is often a love/hate situation when Mars is involved and things tend to get turbulent.

I am not the easiest person to love and can be quite irritable.

At times demonstrative and passionate and other times, just wanting to be left alone. So I wonder if the semi-sextile describes this inner dissatisfaction and friction?

I actually see it being closer to the square- due to the fact that both form aspects with elements that are essentially differing from them.

But with the square, the tension is added my the mutual modality whilst with the semisextile,the differences in modality makes the tension very difficult to comprehend.

With the square,the individual may feel like they rarely get what they want. I feel like that too.


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posted November 25, 2016 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive Venus sesquidrate pluto and I feel the energy as almost-here - as if it's either a trailer of a future life or a recap of a past one. The themes feel important, the images are familiar but it's not rooted or integrated here.

I've Mercury quincunx Uranus and would agree that this feels more significant.

Moon quintile Pluto, Neptune quintile NN .. I'll have to come back to as not sure of how they are significant but they don't feel wrong, either

I haven't explore semi sq or semi sextiles much but the connections that I have make sense to me, that they should be somewhere in the chart

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posted November 26, 2016 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would it help to just take the planets interacting within the aspect and make deductions from there?

The Venus sesquiquadrate Pluto would suggest that Pluto "heats" up Venus.Do you see a clear contradiction of energies between the two planets concerned?

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