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Topic: Forgetting a Scorpio doesn't depends on you, it depends on that Scorpio person?
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5840 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 25, 2016 03:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by violet7887: This kind of connection can be there based on chemistry. A persons true character is shown when **** actually hits the fan or turns sour or is over. To see the person as human and someone you once loved and still want good for them in their future is what shows real character. All the times you cry you love someone, this is what shows if you actually do.Lol fixed signs lack this characteristic. They turn bitter. A lot I have had situations with. Especially Scorpio and Aquarius . You cannot keep your trust in them after **** hits the fan lol. They try and keep control because it stems from their lack of care for you and their own selfishness.
He didn't try to keep control, he wanted me to move on but he would miss me and think of me bc he is not a robot and we had a very strong connection and when he did that I would pop up. It's not a control thing is an attachment thing. I have Venus, Mars, Juno, and AC/DC in a fixed sign so I have a hard time letting go when I get attached. To top it off mercury rules my 8th and parallels my pluto and Juno and union. Our moons conjunct and parallel in pisces, his moon opposes my mercury, his AC conjuncts my mercury. My moon trines his sun. My psyche conjuncts his sun and Uranus. My Venus falls in his 12H and his Venus falls in my 12H. All these aspects contribute to our psychic connection and more. IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 25, 2016 03:57 PM
Hypnatia, I'm not denying you have a connection. Your synastry shows you have a very strong connection. What I'm stating is something else. You can have a deeper than deep connection with someone but your character and how it unfolds in certain situations is still your character. Does a deep connection always gaurentee you will always put someone's happiness before yours? No. Those are just characteristics I've noted in my interactions with those signs. That is why Scorpio is the sign mentioned In the thread in the first place. That is characteristics of this sign. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5840 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 25, 2016 05:20 PM
^I understand what you mean! It just seems that the "control" thing is bc they are still attached themselves to you and have not let go of you as in still think of you and long for you but I imagine with a very unevolved Scorpio it could be purely about control and ego.IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8726 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 25, 2016 09:53 PM
It could be, for me, that I have a strong mind and personality so I'm not affected. Sometimes I'm glad my toxic Scorpio mother spent a lot of time raising (if that's what you want to call it) me as I can now spot and stop those games from anyone else fast. Maybe it gave me an innate resistance to other Scorpio abilities as well. One Scorpio stalker went to extreme lengths to find me, and yet once I chose to ice him out of my life, I did. And though I remember him, it's in a purely mental way that's identical to how I remember everyone else. I know he had a Scorpio sun and Mars, and I'm pretty sure he also had Venus, moon, and/or ASC (having been about 15 years since I looked at his chart, it's hard for me to recall, I just recall that there was a lot of Scorpio in it...as he was younger than me, he should've had Scorpio Pluto as well.) One reason I don't think they can influence others in startling paranormal ways is that they can still be targeted, as one Scorpio guy who had as many enemies as friends, and though he didn't normally shy away from a fight, I recall his consternation when a cross dresser came after him (to the point the person was throwing lighter fluid on him, threatening to set him on fire). Another Scorpio was bullied when I wasn't around (I know, I went away and came back nearly 2 years later and had to set that sitch right, and if she had the ability to make people forget her then surely she could've made her tormentors do so). I knew a 1H Scorpio stellium (and 12H Libra sun) who was crazy (I suspect she may have had multiple personalities that were unaware of each other), and I'm just glad she couldn't affect the minds of others as she could her own. And as for one guy who did seem to have an unusual ability to mentally push people to his will (even through sheer concentration), though people (even those not inclined to believe in such things) could feel it and it could be resisted, he was a Virgo sun (don't know his other placements). ETA: fun bit, I was put in a special program at school (for the misbehaving kids) and we came up with this game of staring at each other (always at the neck which seemed the most "sensitive") from behind until we could feel it. We got very good at it, and I recall feeling it like a "tingle" (even like a bit of heat) and got to where I even knew WHO was the one staring! (Once, I was unsure between two people...turned out both were at the same time.) We seemed to share guest spots in each other's dreams a few times (odd to explain) and I wonder if that staring game we played with each other somehow formed a connection that let us do that. IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2904 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted November 26, 2016 12:40 AM
Yes. Scorpio is a dream/mind invading sign. However, I've noticed Pisces is the sign with the strongest ability to "wiped" you mind clean, more so than Scorpio.At this moment a Scorpio is trying to gain my attention. It worked like a charm in 2009 - Didn't know I was on their radar, thought they had moved on. This time I'm more prepared. After cutting them off, suddenly their name popped up in my wifi queue and won't budge. More recently there was a Sagittarius w/ Moon & Venus in Scorpio who after acting like an #$$ was cut off PERMANENTLY. He's been working his Scorpio black magic, but the answer is still - NO!! First this person showed up in my dreams. Then would appear even while having astral visit from somebody else. Quite annoying. I held firm. NO!! I'm into astrology so I can see things they cant. Tangent - progressions is where the magic of astrology is located. After I iced this person out, the next three persons he attracted all had my Sun-Moon combination. Person 1 - Sun-Moon & my birthday number. Person 2 - This person's pChart was exactly conjunct my nChart. Person 3 - Sun-Moon & partial birthday number. Yuck Yuck. I saw that fool coming a mile away and I was disgusted and never remotely interested. From what I've seen Scorpio's efforts usually bring the desired person's energy back into their lives, but never the actual person. Scorpio doesn't realize this. Scorpios think they're advanced. Often they announce their arrival into your life with a cameo in your dream. This used to be dreamy, and magical to me. However, I've become wary of anyone whom I meet in a dream who then show up on the flesh. Yes, Scorpio loves playing these games, but they are spiritually immature for believing they can control another person's fate. The Principle of Reciprocity guarantees so as you dominate, so will you be dominated. This is what puts them in the mad house. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5840 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 26, 2016 12:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: Yes, Scorpio loves playing these games, but they are spiritually immature for believing they can control another person's fate. The Principle of Reciprocity guarantees so as you dominate, so will you be dominated.
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bumblebee Knowflake Posts: 332 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 26, 2016 01:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by violet7887: They try and keep control because it stems from their lack of care for you and their own selfishness.
So true! IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5840 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 26, 2016 02:07 AM
^that is very black and white, the truth is everyone is selfish and likes been in control but we also fall in love and develop strong bonds with others which is what the 8H in part is about 'developing strong bonds' so it makes sense that strong bonds also mean psychic connections that soulmates share. The 8th house is a water house that also rules the psychic realm and becomes deeply attached, pluto lessons often revolve around letting go, forming deep attachments that reach the deepest possible levels of intimacy and depths of our souls, accepting the other completely naked with all their weaknesses and dark side which is heavy stuff. If you can't do that then the relationship dies and both parties have to let go of each other but this won't happen smoothly bc a deep bond was formed, part of it is selfishness but a big part is about struggling with letting go of a deep bond with someone you are deeply attached to on a soulmate level. If you have never experienced been under that power that is great but it also means you have never fallen in love all the way and surrendered emotionally fully to another which to be fair is probably the better choice.IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2904 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted November 26, 2016 10:19 AM
^^It is a personal responsibility to look out for one's own needs. That is a healthy selfishness.To arrest a person's development because of the way it will make you feel is unhealthy selfishness. I believe that is what Violet is talking about, interfering in another's life for your own ends. When Scorpio types are finished with a relationship, they demand the freedom to move on and live their lives. If the other party gets there first, suddenly there is a problem. Scorpio then tries to hurt that person, and sometimes those who come near the other person. That is their reputation. ****** Agree with Scorpio & Aquarius women. Scorpio is legendary. I was surprised how clingy and possessive Aquarius women are in relationships. I know one, without Scorpio placements, who had her and her boyfriend's name tattooed on her wrists. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 720 From: CH Registered: Jul 2016
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posted November 26, 2016 11:18 AM
^ I agreescorpios are the "things won't end until I say so" type. and they WILL find a way to make you (and others involved) pay no matter how long it takes. because they really do spend the majority of their time plotting against anyone who in their minds treated them unfairly also agree on the Aquarius. I have seen way more Aquariuses than other signs staying in horrible relationships for too long (4 years my own best friend, aqua sun, moon, mercury, and the guy was a virgo I think) and they won't even demand anything in return! although now that I think about it, I have seen libras and geminis act this way too. must be either an air/friendly thing or they just get too focused on the logics that they don't notice that the other person has emotionally let go
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girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 720 From: CH Registered: Jul 2016
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posted November 26, 2016 11:33 AM
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Nine Moderator Posts: 2904 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted November 26, 2016 12:10 PM
So I've heard very smart people say.IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5840 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 26, 2016 12:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: ^^It is a personal responsibility to look out for one's own needs. That is a healthy selfishness.To arrest a person's development because of the way it will make you feel is unhealthy selfishness. I believe that is what Violet is talking about, interfering in another's life for your own ends. When Scorpio types are finished with a relationship, they demand the freedom to move on and live their lives. If the other party gets there first, suddenly there is a problem. Scorpio then tries to hurt that person, and sometimes those who come near the other person. That is their reputation. ****** Agree with Scorpio & Aquarius women. Scorpio is legendary. I was surprised how clingy and possessive Aquarius women are in relationships. I know one, without Scorpio placements, who had her and her boyfriend's name tattooed on her wrists.
That is my point you are looking at their behavior and interpreting it as unhealthy selfish behavior when what is really happening is that they are fighting for what they love trying to get back with the love of their life or struggling to let go of a deep attachment they have for someone they still love. I also think the points you guys are making are valid but is important to keep in mind the points I am making too to see the whole picture and to understand that some Scorpios are more evolved than others and that there are three types of Scorpios. I feel the Scorpio you guys are referring to more is the Scorpio in the decan of Scorpio. Scorpio in the decan of cancer and Pisces are different. I could see Scorpio in the decan of Scorpio been more selfish and about vengeance and control. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5840 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 26, 2016 12:53 PM
Do any of you have Scorpio rising, sun in Scorpio, moon in Scorpio or in Venus or Mars? IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 26, 2016 04:53 PM
Nine knows what I'm talking about.  Iv'e just had a very big circle of friends in my life to know. one of my besties is actually dating a scorpio now.lol if i could share some stories this threads case would be closed. I personally dont like to meddle into my friends lives though because if they are happy then its they're choice. Anyway, to the op and hypnatia, in the end its your point of view. I just shared mines. Have a nice rest of the night everyone IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5840 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 26, 2016 05:23 PM
Yes is your point of view and I see value in it and get what you are saying! but I am trying to expand your view so it's more comprehensive but nobody gets my point so I guess I don't understand the 8th house as much as I thought lol and Scorpios are just selfish control freaks and maybe they are and I don't see them clearly or understand my own motives as a Scorpio riser.I have always thought the 8th house rules sex hormones such as oxytocin which is known as the love hormone which to me explains how they can cut you out and act like they have moved on as Scorpio is co ruled by mars after all and is prideful but still be attached to you even though they don't show it. Scorpio its a secretive reserved sign with a lot of pride but deep down they still care and are attached to you, what dies is the idea of been with you which is reinforced by their pride. They won't get back but it takes them a long time to stop caring once a bind was established much longer than they lead you to believe and if you are psychic like them you will know this bc you will feel their struggle and pain. Yes they play games but when you think about how they play games keep in mind both Mars and Pluto. I feel the vindictive prideful and big ego part of Scorpio comes from Mars and Pluto is that part that gets deeply attached and has a hard time letting go. IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 536 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted November 26, 2016 06:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: That is my point you are looking at their behavior and interpreting it as unhealthy selfish behavior when what is really happening is that they are fighting for what they love trying to get back with the love of their life or struggling to let go of a deep attachment they have for someone they still love.
I can understand @hypatia238. This is what my best friend moon in scorpio told me too. I think he has scorpio ASC. He calls it "fighting for what they love" because "struggling to let go of a deep attachment". He also said, he will not hesitate to use manipulation with the situation to keep his lover. I've seen it in his action too. One day I spent a day with him and his partner. His partner told me that two months ago they bought GPS in the car (his partner own the car and uses it daily). And he said, "I am afraid that you get lost in the road. What if something happen to you in the road? I do not want something bad happen to you".. It may make sense to use that excuse, doesn't it? Then I laughed so hard when his partner told him, "No, don't lie. You just want to track me through the GPS connected to your phone." He insisted it wasn't true but I knew it was true because everytime I was with him, he would check his GPS app in his phone to check where his partner at. When I told him it was not a form of love, it was called fears, he couldn't answer it. I am a believer that love should free the person (I put my faith in 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 to the definition of love). If you are fighting for the person because you have problem to let go of the person, and refuse to acknowledge that the other person also has a right to be happy, yes, I think it's an unhealthy selfishness like the definition of @Nine said. IP: Logged |
the89freespirit Knowflake Posts: 877 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 26, 2016 08:23 PM
It's funny that this thread started because I actually said something along these lines a few days ago about Scorpio being able to haunt people in the "things you've notice about the signs" thread. I just think some people are taking it too literally. It's just that Scorpio people can be so connected to others, in such a spooky and profound way, that they can get under your skin and stay there. And that they still have this way of knowing what you're thinking from far away. It is the sign that gets into people's heads. So, it's no surprise that Scorpio has that very lingering effect, especially if there are unresolved feelings at play. People with Scorpio placements, of course, cannot literally control your thoughts. But, Scorpio energy is so psychic and powerful that it can manifest in mysterious ways, like you are randomly thinking of your Scorpio Moon ex and then, awhile later, she shows up somehow or texts you. It could be because her psychic energy is still very merged with yours, on some level. (This, of course, depends on how much you believe in psychic abilities) Also, this is the "stalker" sign, after all, so a lot of this can also be because of the fact that they have taken in and remembered and so much about you and already know what you're going to do before you even do it. So, Scorpio people can "haunt" others pretty effortlessly by staying very tuned into them. ------------------ Check out My Astrology Blog: http://astroarena12.blogspot.com IP: Logged |
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1307 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 26, 2016 09:39 PM
Um, yes actually! He's a 12H Scorpio Sun-Pluto-Ceres (sextile Neptune), with Scorpio Venus retrograde conj. ASC, and Scorpio Mercury in 1H.His Moon's in my 12H, his Pluto conj. my Venus-IC (in his 12th) and I have Neptune sq. Moon and feel easily manipulated by things like that. That's the only person but it has been a thing since we met. Like, I've thought this about him before reading this thread. IP: Logged |
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1307 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 26, 2016 09:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by violet7887: LollDo you really believe you can't forget someone because they don't want you to ? Loll Loll. cute + humorous morning thread.
Im going to give you an honest answer. You are weak in the mind. Make yourself stronger.
*holds up a mirror* speak for yourself!
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violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 27, 2016 03:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Selenite: *holds up a mirror* speak for yourself!
i am speaking for myself, Thank you very much This is a board in which everyone is free to express their opinions.  IP: Logged |
AwakenSky16 Knowflake Posts: 477 From: between here and threre Registered: Oct 2016
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posted November 27, 2016 04:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: Agree with Scorpio & Aquarius women. Scorpio is legendary. I was surprised how clingy and possessive Aquarius women are in relationships.[QUOTE] originally posted by MilaBirkin : [B] A friend of mine told me she read that if you can't forget a Scorpio person (Sun-Ascendant) is because that Scorpio person doesn't want to. That person still thinking about you and wants you to remember them. What do you think about this? 🤔 [QUOTE] originally posted by the89freespirit :[B] It's funny that this thread started because I actually said something along these lines a few days ago about Scorpio being able to haunt people in the "things you've notice about the signs" thread. It's just that Scorpio people can be so connected to others, in such a spooky and profound way, that they can get under your skin and stay there. And that they still have this way of knowing what you're thinking from far away. It is the sign that gets into people's heads. So, it's no surprise that Scorpio has that very lingering effect, especially if there are unresolved feelings at play. People with Scorpio placements, of course, cannot literally control your thoughts. But, Scorpio energy is so psychic and powerful that it can manifest in mysterious ways, like you are randomly thinking of your Scorpio Moon ex and then, awhile later, she shows up somehow or texts you. It could be because her psychic energy is still very merged with yours, on some level. (This, of course, depends on how much you believe in psychic abilities) Also, this is the "stalker" sign, after all, so a lot of this can also be because of the fact that they have taken in and remembered and so much about you and already know what you're going to do before you even do it. So, Scorpio people can "haunt" others pretty effortlessly by staying very tuned into them.
Ok... could it explain why I (aqua) can't forget and let him go (asc.moon, mars scorp.)and why I stay like he is always under my skin and in my soul? He always stays in my mind like no one else before. If he "want" to, it will be ok for me because in this moment I really prefert keep a link with him even I can't see him no more. once, I dream about him and it was so real about all senses... The dream stoped when I said it was too much and it never came back... ( ) The connection was also so amazing when we were together, really unforgettable (Probably also other aspects here) (please don't quote) IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8726 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 06, 2016 05:44 AM
I'm still not agreeing with what's being said about Scorpio here (at least not as something specific to the sign), but someone sent me this about representing the energy of Pure Feminine Scorpionic-Revenge (just one possible manifestation): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMqc4Eesn8E I will keep quiet You won't even know I'm here You won't suspect a thing You won't see me in the mirror But I crept into your heart You can't make me disappear Til I make you I made myself at home In the cobwebs and the lies I'm learning all your tricks I can hurt you from inside I made myself a promise You would never see me cry Til I make you You'll never know what hit you Won't see me closing in I'm gonna make you suffer This hell you put me in I'm underneath your skin The devil within You'll never know what hit you I will be here When you think you're all alone Seeping through the cracks I'm the poison in your bones My love is your disease I won't let it set you free Til I break you You'll never know what hit you Won't see me closing in I'm gonna make you suffer This hell you put me in I'm underneath your skin The devil within You'll never know what hit you I tried to be the lover to your nightmare Look what you made of me Now I'm a heavy burden that you can't bear Look what you made of me Look what you made of me I'll make you see You'll never know what hit you Won't see me closing in I'm gonna make you suffer This hell you put me in I'm underneath your skin The devil within You'll never know what hit you The devil within You'll never know what hit you I could see my Scorpio mother adopting that song as an anthem (and I believe she'd be rooting for the villain Cinder in RWBY if she were to watch the show). I'll spare you the essay, but I will say that for all her delusional paranoia (or that a lot of her personal hell is a reality of her own making, that is she brings it on herself--whereas some people are delusional in trying to believe only the good, she is just as delusional in refusing to believe in anything good) she can know how to strike people where it hurts the most. And she will, sometimes with incredible patience.
And though her doing that has created a terrible life for herself, she never expected any better (to her, everyone is evil, she is just honest enough to admit it in herself, and is thus better at it since she doesn't try to deny that aspect of herself as most other--hypocrites all, in her book--do), and she takes comfort in knowing how she has crapped on the lives of others (just as they have on hers). I think she'd say that hate gets a bad rap, and that it's more powerful than love (or as the evil mother in White Oleander says, "Love humiliates you, but hatred cradles you"). As I'm no longer under her power, I have the luxury to sympathize with her to a point, and grudgingly admire her talent (there's a bit of Pisces and Gemini to her chart in addition to the major Scorpio and Leo which I think gave her incredible potential for good or evil). It's tragic that she was locked into a cycle of negativity, when I think it could be positive instead (at least at one time it could've been). I wonder, had she risen above the crap she was afflicted with rather than diving in and becoming the best/worst villain, could she have left a positive impact on people's lives so that she was as loved & admired rather than hated & reviled? But in any case, it's what she does, not what she is, that leaves the impression. It's just she has a talent to seeing what individuals care about, and then ruining it. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015
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posted December 06, 2016 06:22 AM
Nah. I'm basically in agreement with Pixie on this. I think it would take some Very unique circumstances for it to even be possible. Common, or simply because of a sign? Nah. IP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 1362 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 06, 2016 06:51 AM
Pluto and those underground lines. I've been thinking about the spokes on a web recently, neural pathways. Scorpio and Pluto to personal planets is good at claiming those spokes and thereby quite a lot of mental matter. I believe this works psychically and also on that neural / tangible level. And both levels overlap when you think about the pure investment Scorpio has in others. I know when I'm interested in someone I want to know everything about them, they inhabit my thoughts a lot. On the reality level, this means Scorpio learns about the other but then a-bit-psychically too I'm certain others sense that intensity and are drawn in. Totally psychically I think that investment in thought scorpios have is mirrored, if not in the object of their affections, then in others IP: Logged | |