posted November 25, 2016 11:33 PM            

sa-t-urn ca-pri-corn

mer-cury ver-go gemini <-- i think if mercury was instead named "takery" that they wouldnt have
thought gemini might rule it.
plut-oh scorpi-oh the last two syllible are p**-oh

leo sun they are both 3 letter words. similar in that way.

I think word vibrations obviously do effect things a lot because if your computer was called a Wimmish you would feel completely different about it.

I for my own personal use imagined that we were in a world where leo sign was named Giraffe, saggitarious was named Zebra, and cancer was named "cam"

And there is the giant sun, I think in that world they would say cam is the most similar simply because its shorter and a more blunt/simple word, just like the sun.

Anyway it's a bit odd the similarities above, If we lived in a world where all the planets and signs had different names, I wonder if they would have assigned the same rulers.

I doubt it!

posted November 26, 2016 03:03 AM            

Compare a picture of a Sagitarious with the jupiters! What are you all thinking!?

posted November 26, 2016 04:56 AM            

two rows jupiter aries at the top pisces below it.

its subtle but if you skim your eyes across the top row first and notice it

now if you look at jupiter sun conjunctions- regardless of the random signs those people had them in, jupiters energy stays the same.

posted November 26, 2016 08:56 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by soren:
Look at my planets conjunct sun exact thread. Do you really think the mercuries scream that they have virgo?!

Compare a picture of a Sagitarious with the jupiters! What are you all thinking!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqju2mB_0GE this is what's happening

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Wow Soren .... Your mind is so sharp, keen and extraordinarily analytical. You've done a tremendous amount of very hard work. ... Such a productive soul. I just wanted to acknowledge that today.

posted November 27, 2016 12:01 AM            

Mercury similar to Aqiuarius Cancer gemini

Moon scorpio and all the other o's

Venus taurus, sag & aqua's us +extra for being a similar length of letters to taurus.
pisces although taurus and venus seem a lot more similar to me than pisces an venus.
oh leo but not very similar to venus at all.
and finally leera.

out of all which would someone pick that sounded and seemed the most similar. we confuse name vibrations with the actual thing.

Mars taurus and Aries although Aries looks even more not only because its closer in word length but the pointed A at the start of the word is much more similar in look to M Mars Aries Mars Taurus

Neptune Taurus Cancer

I admit for Taurus and Neptune that they do look a bit similar but a combination of both appearance and *SOUND* is what we use our imaginations at

Uranus Aquarius Taurus

Saturn Sagittarius Cancer Aquarius Capricorn

Saturn Sagittarius. Saturn Cancer. Saturn Aquarius. Saturn Capricorn.

I am choosing the most similar words and contrasting to see which ones are actually the most similar sounding

Jupiter Taurus Pisces Libra Sagitarius

Sun Sagittarius Capricorn. Gemini. Aries. Taurus. Pisces. Aquarius. Scorpio. Libra. Leo. Virgo. Cancer.

posted November 27, 2016 12:17 AM            

Sun Taranak Moulash Francity Buskagon Gym Saddlercora Binibinicola Hork

Which sign do you think they would think on a higher level whenever they hear/see the words I think these 2 seem to be the most same

posted November 27, 2016 02:34 PM            

I kind of thought you were joking around for a minute. The OP is very much a stretch. You could maybe say that it's interesting that a few of the planets and the sign they rule have slightly similar names. Maybe there is something to that; that they can resonate in a way. But, they aren't THAT similar (a lot of the vowels you sounded out don't even sound the same and are merely spelled similarly). And to say that this is the only thing that the planetary rulerships are based off of is really laughable, to be honest.

You have had a habit of making very declarative statements and then backing off from them, much like that thread I remember about you saying the Descendant is wrong. But, to me, I think it shows that you, in some ways and at some times, lack an understanding of what astrology actually is.

I think it's pretty common sense to anyone who has studied astrology for a few years why Saturn rules Capricorn or why Mercury rules Gemini/Virgo. Signs are not exactly like planets. You are right about that. That whole "alphabet system" can be a bit lazy and unoriginal. But, of course, there are many reasons why these planets rule the signs. To explain that would be to explain basic astrology. And to discredit that is to discredit astrology itself.

I encourage original thinking and being able to think outside the box. I also think it's great to challenge conventional notions, especially when people can far too often stereotype signs and such. I'm very much an independent thinker myself and have thrown out certain tired ideas, astrology-wise, myself and replaced them with my own.

But, still, there is an inherent structure to astrology. You can't be absolutely anarchic about it and try to throw out the entire system. If you do that, you are no longer really speaking the language of astrology and, then, there's really no point. It sometimes doesn't need to be more complicated than that.

Basically, I just think that you over-think things WAY too much. Sometimes, with something as complex as astrology, you just need to keep it simple.

posted November 27, 2016 03:20 PM            

There's a lot of other things happening on this forum where people are practicing most likely false beliefs. To me it's just strange because that turns it into fiction, when there is a faction to astrology and that's what astrology (at least the true part of it) is.

Basically astrology is that everything is metaphysically connected and forces in space have an effect on everyone's personality.

To see people practicing ideas that are 100% wrong, is kind of strange. It then turns into a personal story fan-fiction forum.

In my previous reply I actually chose ALL the similar sounding signs for each planet. Some of them weren't even that similar. So maybe there was 4 signs per planet, and that made it even MORE obvious that the current rulerships are actually the most similar sounding word out of any of the other ones that had the slightest similarities. If you go back over that list,

look at the one's that were only very slightly similar out of the 12, and for nearly every set (disclusing the moon and neptune and perhaps even aqua's set because they got their sign rulerships simply because of the process of elimination, "we have to assign aqua to somewhere else so let's do it to this")

Anyway out of the 4 slightly other close words, for each rulership, it's actual current assigned rulership was the closest one. I could sound it out for each one if you want

Venus Sagittarius. Or Venus Aquarius. Or Venus Pisces.
OR Venus Leebra. Or Venus Taurus.

Out of all of those, libra and taurus sound the most same.

If you do that with every set, (besides maybe moon, neptune, cancer since those may have been signed cause of elimination and not having any other signs left) the ruler that has been assigned is the most similar.

What scientific explanation can anyone give that was cause this rulership effect?

It sound completely rediculous to think that having your asc in aqua, uranus in capricorn, will make saturn your final depositer.

Imagine how that would actually scientifically work.

How is this exchange of energy being bounced around.

It's completely irrational imo. There is always things that I dont understand. But I doubt this is one of them. Which is why I asked if you could explain it scientifically- cause everything else in astrology i can explain scientifically, even if its vague (metaphysical pull of a planet's body, you feel the planet inside you because you feel everything in the universe, quantum entanglement similar)

*ETA: So it's basically a fact that the signs that are assigned to each planet for rulership ARE indeed the closest
If you truly disagree I challenge you to make a new list using the closest possible sounding/looking words and show me that I'm wrong.

Also that 'descendent isn't where it should be' thread was made because I didn't really understand the whole earth spinning and how the planets line up with it.

That was always my biggest wonder that my brain just couldnt 'get' of why the MH was not always exactly square the ASC. I just couldn't figure it out. But then realized it's because the sun's path is rarely ever actually aligned with the ecliptic path, yet the sun is always on it, but the eclpitic path moves in reference to the earth as the earth spins, yet the sun's daily path is fixed.

This lead me to further understand astrology and feel like nothing is left out, that thread actually lead to one of my greatest understandings. And i was actually right, that the place where the sun sets is NOT where the descendant lies (unless the sun is right at the desc during birth)

While many definitions labelled the descendent as the part where the eclpitic goes below the horizon, and seeing as how the sun creates the ecliptic path, I thought it meant the daily path and not the yearly. So I wasn't too off. And i didn't "back away" i merely realized what i was trying to figure out and moved on.

Add:
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Using my planets exact conjunct sun thread, its possible to see the actual planet's energy strongly in an individual. It doesn't have to be conjunct the sun i find out now, the way to get the full power out of an aspect is that it has to be making an aspect to a body more massive/powerful (in gravity likely) than itself.

Such as Jupiter opposite an asteroid will not get the full opposition energy that jupiter possess.

The moon opposite jupiter however will get jupiter's full strength opposition, because it can receive it's full pull.

Anyway even on my dinosaur pluto thread i showed jupiter extemely strong people, with pluto extremely strong people, along with sags and scorps.

Jupiter people didn't look mutable. They didn't have the same mutable eyes that sag has. They also looked a lot nicer, while sags look a bit mean.

Even scorp people seemed very similar to these jupiter dominant people. In fact i've already done it several times that I compare different signs to each person dominant in a planetary energy, and they all show similarities, none of them "exceedingly more".

And rationally, jupiter's energy, which can be seen in the photos, is not mutable, it's not fixed, it's not anything like that because it's effect is created because its a planet.

It's not a sign. THEY FALL in signs which coat their energy.

If it does NOT fall in a sign, it's energy can not be coated by that sign.

Body rulerships are using a different concept for how they work. (Which are real)

posted November 27, 2016 04:34 PM            

That is the irony of so much of what you say on here because you are trying to scientifically prove something that you cannot scientifically prove. You are just very literal about it all.

In the end, you are free to believe whatever you want. But telling people who have studied this for years that they are completely wrong and insisting on it will not lead to a productive discussion. That is why you have spent almost all of this thread talking to yourself.

That is all I have to say.

posted November 27, 2016 04:36 PM            

The science is whether we can observe and record it, which I believe I've done just a little slightly with my pictures, but not a lot to claim it as evidence (well i'm sure it convince a lot)

posted November 27, 2016 04:41 PM            

Well there are TRUE astrological effects that are happening, and so two people might practice a different thing that counters the others, such as mercury being the strongest planet in a chart, meanwhile the ACtual true energy forces being created has venus as the most powerful.

In these cases only one person is truely right of which energy is more stronger based on its position (which we can't 100% know)

So one is right, one is wrong,

posted November 27, 2016 05:17 PM            

They are really just actually feeling

Yes the first U in uranus actually is in at the start of aquarius as well! And also the second u is also in aquarius!

posted November 27, 2016 05:53 PM            

that i could convince a lot of scientists.

we just now entered the age of awareness and understanding. that's why technology is getting so interesting and amazing.

you don't think we are on the verge of being able to prove many many new things?
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hahahahahahhahahahahaha

posted November 27, 2016 07:24 PM            

Yes i experienced mercury progress. It has nothing to do with thoughts. It has to do with soaking in your environment and analyzing visuals.

posted November 27, 2016 07:27 PM            

ALL capricorn is, is cardinal negative earth.

Saturnians don't have that look like they are paying strong attention to the physical realm that capricorns exhibit.

posted November 27, 2016 07:41 PM            

like saturn is about order, understanding truth and how things work.

no sign is more understanding, they only have a different view of reality. water is ethers+emotions. its a different way of understanding than earth.

posted November 27, 2016 08:00 PM            

Mutable Earth means putting an end to missions. An end to things that need to be done, so cleaning up something.

Earth means it's in relation to the physical realm.

Mutable Air is putting an end to thoughts. Figuring out the final answer of things.

Nevermind if they are fickle, flighty, avoidant. Those are secondary -idea-/speculation added traits.

posted November 27, 2016 08:02 PM            

No planets can be water.

Water is created by the signs.

Signs are created by 2 giant rings.

That's like saying a rock can be an idea.

Or an eye is a movie.

posted November 27, 2016 08:37 PM            

Focus on the sun sign, the chart shape. The outlet planet transit can indicate people's inspirations although very subtle.

This can indicate behaviours.

During a cancer sun people enjoy being inside and focusing on mental/feelings like watching a movie and being cozy and warm.

Sag is different they enjoy adventuring outside.

Each creature that has a fresh seed (a planet even) when it is first sprouting its roots can possibly meld to the transit chart as it begins its life. These initial roots gets engrained with it. same with a brain.

So that indicates people all over the planet, will meld to astrological forces.

Millions of people, billions, everyone on this planet being born at a different time, reflects their brain meldings

Showing vast differences as they absorb the energy of that moment,

they are a reflection of that current energy that was happening during that time. Such as a pluto conjunct sun will hold for their whole live's the energy that was happening during just that one day that they were born.

posted November 27, 2016 08:51 PM            

I have looked deep into my brain. I have been able to move my chart forwards and backwards.

I am so connected to my brain, not so much anymore now that my sun is in the 12th p. but before i definitely was 100%

As it changes you lose that connection. If you had a first house planet instead move to the 12th, all of a sudden you are just a dreamer focusing on ideas. In the first, you actually are one with your brain and can feel it and look at itself.