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alludeu
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posted November 26, 2016 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do people deal with their strong scorpio/pluto energy and being jealous? I have mars in scorpio in the 8th house and the jealousy can be about the smallest, irrational situation, but it feels so intense! I just take deep breaths, but it's almost insane the things we can get jealous over.

Scorpios jealousy always reminds me of the song "Don't Hurt Yourself" by Beyonce (who has a scorpio moon). I imagine that's how a lot of scorpios feel on the inside haha.. it's just an unreleased explosion within ourselves (luckily for other people )!

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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 26, 2016 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a Venus in Scorpio,I know of jealousy all too well.

The thing is that once the feeling is ignited,momentum takes over and you find yourself within it.

As in every emotion actually,once ignited the momentum takes over and you find yourself in it.

It could be feelings regurgitated from a thought of a past situation, the presence of something undesirable in the present reality(usually)or the possible outcome of something unwanted- in the future.

Since YOU are the one that has the feelings or activated them. It is then up to YOU to focus on something else.

And as I said, once you think of something that activates an emotion and momentum begins. You can also think of something positive and momentum will move there.

The question always is;"Where do I let momentum go?' OR "Which feelings do I activate and go with?"

I try to move my focus towards another feeling place in order to get better feeling emotions there.

I remember when I met my ex-boyfriend's colleague who was insanely handsome (another Sag).

I felt a strong jealousy towards whatever relationship that they had(no matter how platonic he said it was)

I felt the surge immediately upon our introduction. There was a palpable feeling of unpleasantness towards him that was difficult to hide. The feeling of anger towards him seething through my body.

During this interaction I had to decide whether i would act like an a** with him or focus my thoughts on something else and let momentum drive me there?

I immediately decided that we should play a game of cricket. The idea was for me to have something else to "do" and occupy my thoughts so I don't get moody throughout this visit-as there were other people around too at the house that day.

What happened was that the focus shifted so much that I forgot about the feelings I had towards him i.e how good-looking he was,whatever relationship they shared at work etc. just didn't register in my thoughts anymore.

I found myself thoroughly enjoying the game,the people AND his company.Go figure!

I think they simmer when we entertain them. But when we focus on something else that brings immediate relief from them, they tend to go away.

So don't "face" them or try to "deal" with them etc. Because they will just bury you in their momentum.

Try to actively find better feeling emotions right there and then and drive the momentum that brings you the relief you want from them.

And btw, Scorpio is not the only one who gets jealous. Aries,Cancer and Scorpio are the ones who tend to feel emotions going from 0-100 degrees quite quickly. But ALL the other signs can get jealous too(Aquarius and Sag included)

Its just that with mars ruled Aries/Scorp especially,reason/logic are hard to come by when they are "in it". The momentum can sweep them off and they can feel powerless to stop where it takes them. They just find themselves reacting to it a lot.

Both these energies don't need to "control" their emotions. But they can benefit from honing their strong emotions on subjects/things that will lead to maximum benefit- which is a skill that needs constant practice.


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visions
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posted November 26, 2016 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i can be really jealous but i have uranus in III in scorpio freeing me from any obsessive jealousy or obessive thinking or behavior generally speaking...that is a bless

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CosmiqPhuz
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posted November 26, 2016 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a Venus in Scorpio (I'm male), I certainly deal with jealousy but I feel it's a more reasonable jealousy than a lot of people I know with Mars or Moon in Scorpio. Their jealousy can erupt over the smallest things and can get irrational fast.

A Mars in Scorpio will go for the jugular and ruin a good situation underhandedly before he realizes how irrational he is - and by the time he realizes what he's done, it's too late. I've had too many power struggles with these people.

A Moon in Scorpio will treat you with coldness and purposely neglect you with exaggeration so you notice - over something that they think they may have perceived as a slight or even just being plain jealous.

As a Venus in Scorpio, the jealousy is more internal and I am more reflective on it and self-aware. The nature of Venus is to understand and to make things work, so I struggle with this internal conflict of whether or not I am right or wrong in how I feel. If I feel I am going overboard, I'll hold it in, but I'll still feel it. It's kind of a complicated dynamic within someone.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 26, 2016 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
As a Venus in Scorpio (I'm male), I certainly deal with jealousy but I feel it's a more reasonable jealousy than a lot of people I know with Mars or Moon in Scorpio. Their jealousy can erupt over the smallest things and can get irrational fast.

A Mars in Scorpio will go for the jugular and ruin a good situation underhandedly before he realizes how irrational he is - and by the time he realizes what he's done, it's too late. I've had too many power struggles with these people.

A Moon in Scorpio will treat you with coldness and purposely neglect you with exaggeration so you notice - over something that they think they may have perceived as a slight or even just being plain jealous.

As a Venus in Scorpio, the jealousy is more internal and I am more reflective on it and self-aware. The nature of Venus is to understand and to make things work, so I struggle with this internal conflict of whether or not I am right or wrong in how I feel. If I feel I am going overboard, I'll hold it in, but I'll still feel it. It's kind of a complicated dynamic within someone.


You are the 1st I have read who speaks of Moon in Scorpio and Mars in Scorpio in a way that I can strongly relate.

I had a relationship with Moon in Scorpio. Gosh, he could be so hurtful. I felt like I had to always nurse him 1st before he could respond in kind.Mine is in Cancer.

And yes, as I have said many times here , the Venus-Mars conjunct "heat" is lost on me if I am the Venus in Scorpio as I have also found Mars in Scorpio just terribly volatile overall.

When you speak of being "reflective" of your passions (Venus in Scorpio), my next question would be to ask where your Mars/Moon/Sun is? And what house Venus is in too. As I sense that you(like me) could have an Air placement.

I have Mars in Libra.

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posted November 26, 2016 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Taurus here... with LOTS of Scorpio (including a Saturn Scorpio OPP).

Vesta (dedication, H8) trines serious Saturn Scorpio (longterm, sealed). Vesta in area representing 'The Other' H8 is in territorial Cancer... where I have stellium of 8th house planets.

My BML Sag is on Fixed Star Antares in my H12scorpio, with the other BML Scorpio on the 12th cusp.

My Saggi BML is only a few degrees from my Sag Ascendant. (Someone had mentioned Sag)

It's been a very very long time since I dated or allowed my heart to get involved.

I generally don't do 'jealous' well, and I back away and steer clear of potential partners who play those kinds of games. Loyalty is important to me.

You'd have to earn your way back into my good graces once again.

Definitely, I'm possessive and a very 'territorial' soul, for once it reaches the point of thinking about levels of Commitments, I think in terms of "MY Man" and my emotions.

H8 Cancer, H11 Scorp, H5 & H6 Taurus (solid).
H11 and H5 ... Love given and received. Saturn, is committed.
H2 (Values) Capricorn is serious Keeps!
Mars Cancer trines Juno Scorpio

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(music) Sisters (clip from movie White Christmas with Bing Crosby, and Danny Kaye; lyrics) [1:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgqgQw2hxLQ

It will be interesting when I get back involved in romance and dating. I don't know how I'd react now... Maybe the same?

I can be 'strong in me' ... but when I begin to let down walls, I feel I'd melt. Sometimes I wonder if I would be 'afraid' I'd be jealous if I let down my walls? hmm. Definitely something to think about these next few weeks.

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CosmiqPhuz
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posted November 26, 2016 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
You are the 1st I have read who speaks of Moon in Scorpio and Mars in Scorpio in a way that I can strongly relate.

I had a relationship with Moon in Scorpio. Gosh, he could be so hurtful. I felt like I had to always nurse him 1st before he could respond in kind.Mine is in Cancer.

And yes, as I have said many times here , the Venus-Mars conjunct "heat" is lost on me if I am the Venus in Scorpio as I have also found Mars in Scorpio just terribly volatile overall.

When you speak of being "reflective" of your passions (Venus in Scorpio), my next question would be to ask where your Mars/Moon/Sun is? And what house Venus is in too. As I sense that you(like me) could have an Air placement.

I have Mars in Libra.


Glad you can relate to my experiences. I know some people here are big fans of Mars in Scorpio, but let's just say I've had more negative experiences with them than positive (at least with the guys - I'm only attracted to women). Ulterior motives is a common factor with many of them. The women with Mars in Scorpio I've had better experiences.

My last long term girlfriend had moon in Scorpio. Towards the end, when our relationship was falling apart, she was quite cruel.

One of my off-and-on best friends is a Moon in Scorpio - he will neglect me more than a stranger would if he's mad at me or thinks I hurt him. His personal planets are all in Cancer too, so talk about holding grudges.

My Sun is at 27 Libra
Mars/Moon at 7 Libra

You're a Sag, right?

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panzi
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posted November 26, 2016 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for panzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
As a Venus in Scorpio (I'm male), I certainly deal with jealousy but I feel it's a more reasonable jealousy than a lot of people I know with Mars or Moon in Scorpio. Their jealousy can erupt over the smallest things and can get irrational fast.

A Mars in Scorpio will go for the jugular and ruin a good situation underhandedly before he realizes how irrational he is - and by the time he realizes what he's done, it's too late. I've had too many power struggles with these people.

A Moon in Scorpio will treat you with coldness and purposely neglect you with exaggeration so you notice - over something that they think they may have perceived as a slight or even just being plain jealous.

As a Venus in Scorpio, the jealousy is more internal and I am more reflective on it and self-aware. The nature of Venus is to understand and to make things work, so I struggle with this internal conflict of whether or not I am right or wrong in how I feel. If I feel I am going overboard, I'll hold it in, but I'll still feel it. It's kind of a complicated dynamic within someone.



Me-Scorpio Moon(and Sun too):I go for the jugular man.No way i'll keep cold until they figure it out.My jealousy is the worst demon possible.It comes over me completely and i feel it like a black fog of pain and hate that i cannot escape no matter what i do.
Maybe a good way to balance things would be for you,Scorpio Mars,to get together with someone that has either Moon,Mars or Venus in Scorpio.At least they can understand and relate to this feeling that you both share.I doubt an Aquarian,Sadge,Gemini or Libra will stick around you for long once they see this behavior.They cannot get that for us love=all=intensity=jealousy.
That's my only advice in case everything else fails.Or don't fall inlove.Find a good partner&friend that has wonderful qualities but doesn't make you jealous.

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posted November 27, 2016 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a cancer and I can't tell of I feel it at all or I feel it too much. Seems like if a guy is trying to get that out of me I think he is trying me or either I feel it and get a f'you attitude real fast. For me it's more like the person is being disrespectful or something. Either way, I don't do games and I drop that person.

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hypatia238
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posted November 27, 2016 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are all wired to feel jealously bc it has evolutionary speaking served a number of functions to help ensure our survival. That been said some people are more jealous than others and for some jealously can be pathological.

Scorpio is a very primal sign closely in touch with their survival needs which rules the 8H of attachment and joint resources. As a result Scorpio is hypervigilent when it comes to betrayal and issues around trust. Should I trust you? Are you worth my time? Should I forge a deep bond with you? Can I trust that you won't betray me and share our limited resources that we have worked hard for together to pursue other suiters? Will you go off and impregnate other ladies and share the resources that belong to us with another family?

The sign that rules the house of joint resources/finances and deep attachments is constantly on the look out for danger or threats to her survival and protecting their heart from heart break.

Another theory is that since the 8H rules deep attachments that an afflicted 8H ruler has attachment issues so building a relationship with someone that facilities a secure attachment style can help repair the attachment issues and this will resolve the jealousy issues in you.

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posted November 27, 2016 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for *Golden_Wing*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have a Scorpio Mars, but I don't get jealous to the point of obsession. If I like someone & their choices do not lie with me, then I will be happy for them regardless. I think it has a lot to do with your spiritual growth. I have a lot of Sagittarius in my chart as well, so it could be that. Perhaps you just need to develop more in order to reach the eagle stage? Don't think about jealousy as being a negative trait; rather be proactive about it... Perhaps try to date more people so that your focus doesn't lie with one person only (depending on how serious your relationship with the person is). Think of ways to lessen your jealousy; work on your confidence.


My placement: Mars - Scorpio - 15°30'22 in house 9

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posted November 27, 2016 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto in the 1st house.

In the beginning I was hopeless and would suffer in silence. Today I simply rationalize the "pain" away. Moon in Sagittarius. I replay the "incident" over and over, dreaming up all types of scenarios. Ultimately asking to the freed from the burden of care. I also suspect I may have projected this as I used to attract jealous and possessive types.

I've read that Pluto types react to betrayal in one of two ways; lash out, or withdraw. I'm the withdrawing type. When I re-emerge I treat the offending party with icy indifference. It may be my Mars in Taurus, and all the Neptune, but I feel lashing out at someone who don't want you romantically is kind of embarrassing.

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posted November 27, 2016 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People she has Mars in Scorpio in the 8H so if you have Mars in Scorpio only you are probably not as jealous as her period. Her struggle with jealousy will be bigger and more problematic.

My partner has Mars in Scorpio, Leo in Venus and Taurus rising and when he gets jealous I feel it makes sense to me and is not out of control at all. Also his instincts are good, he can sense when a guy can be a threat. I think his sun in Libra is why his jealousy is moderate and contained and his Merc and Mars-uranus-dc in Scorpio is why he has good instincts about that but he is not obsessive about it,he is not the type to torture himself and I don't feel he is truly a jealous guy as when feels it, it makes sense.

As a Scorpio riser with Venus and Mars in Leo I too struggled with jealousy in the past. Is that especially when it comes to who I am dating my brain is wired not to miss anything, I can tell easily when two people are attracted. The way I beat this is by forming a secure attachment style with a Taurus riser And Venus in leo with moon in cancer who is super faithful to me and would never leave me. That was the first layer of beating that. I got involved with someone who truly made me feel secure, who understood jealousy himself and was patient with me about it never hinting that he wanted to leave me or break up with me.

The second layer is truly realizing and accepting that you are not the center of the universe that there are lots of good looking people and is ok for anybody to feel attracted to multiple people including yourself, that second part is very liberating. A tip that helps with that is admiring beauty in your own gender instead of reacting like they are a threat, sometimes that won't work but for the most part it does and helps.

But dating a guy you can truly trust comes a long way with that and will lead to the second part I mentioned and true personal transformation.

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posted November 27, 2016 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leo_moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars Scorpio, I get jealous. Jealousy, in small doses, is not bad. Moon/Venus Scorpios-- intense, similar vibrations. I have not been with another Mars Scorpio. Sounds scary. Though I'm curious.

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posted November 27, 2016 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by leo_moon:
Mars Scorpio, I get jealous. Jealousy, in small doses, is not bad. Moon/Venus Scorpios-- intense, similar vibrations. I have not been with another Mars Scorpio. Sounds scary. Though I'm curious.

"Sounds scary"

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posted November 29, 2016 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Glad you can relate to my experiences. I know some people here are big fans of Mars in Scorpio, but let's just say I've had more negative experiences with them than positive (at least with the guys - I'm only attracted to women). Ulterior motives is a common factor with many of them. The women with Mars in Scorpio I've had better experiences.

My last long term girlfriend had moon in Scorpio. Towards the end, when our relationship was falling apart, she was quite cruel.

One of my off-and-on best friends is a Moon in Scorpio - he will neglect me more than a stranger would if he's mad at me or thinks I hurt him. His personal planets are all in Cancer too, so talk about holding grudges.

My Sun is at 27 Libra
Mars/Moon at 7 Libra

You're a Sag, right?


Yeah I am.

I think your Lib positions are responsible for you holding back and controlling your emotions.Or at-least rationalizing them

With your Sun in Libra, especially. You don't want to come across "off the hinges".

Libra always wants to be balanced and fair.Scorpio can be instinctive and respond on strong feelings.

I have Sag as my Sun and like you, I try to understand my emotional impulses from a holistic, philosophical point of view. And that means that I also don't respond as passionately

I think if I had Leo, Aries personal placements, it would make things much more volatile.

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