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LunarRose
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posted November 28, 2016 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunarRose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are your experiences with this placement? My mom and I share Saturn in Aqua (not conjunct though) but they're in opposite houses. I have H8 Saturn Rx; she has H2 Saturn Rx. I really can't relate to her placement. It's a source of friction between us.

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posted November 28, 2016 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you have saturn in the 2H I imagine you are very cautious with money and like to have savings. Always worried about a rainy day, anxious about money, insecure about your earning capacity and worry you are not earning enough or best case just super responsible about paying your bills on time and saving. Perhaps worried you will never be financially independent and be able to take care of yourself. You also probably lean more towards conservative values when it comes to economics.

Saturn in the 8H could manifest with her having a hard time getting loans ect and lessons around been responsible with loans and other people's money or perhaps her partner depends on her financially or she depends on her partner financially since is the house of joint finances. She should pay her taxes bc she is more likely to be a target if she does not since the 8H rules taxes as well. I would think that she has issues trusting others too and letting others come into her life and transform her, she will meet that with resistance and perhaps she is set in her ways.

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posted November 28, 2016 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Based on how I experience the 2nd house, Saturn there would probably indicate a hard worker. Some people with this placement might have a hard time dealing with criticism, especially if they don't have a good amount of self-worth.

If you also have Saturn in Retrograde, the criticism you get is probably more internal than external.

Something I've noticed is 2nd house Saturn in Retrograde tends to be a lot more self-critical than when it's direct. On the outside, they may seem like they have it together but they can be huge perfectionists and their need for things to be a certain way can severely impact their self-esteem if their sense of stability is affected.

I'm not sure how accurate this information is. My natal Saturn is in 3rd house.

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posted November 28, 2016 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunarRose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
If you have saturn in the 2H I imagine you are... always anxious about money or best case just responsible about paying your bills on time and saving. Perhaps worried you will never be financially independent and be able to take care of yourself.



OK but it's my mom whose Saturn is in the 2nd. Otherwise you have most of it right. She has a complex chart and is more Saturnine than I'll ever be. She paid her bills but never saved money. She likes luxury but she can strip herself down to bare bones with food, money, products. There is no pleasing her though. She wishes my life would consist of business she approves and pleasure she approves. She came from some money, but neither of us have had any in my lifetime. There is just no end to her critical and controlling ways. I know she wants me to be successful and fix both of our fiances, but other than that I don't know. She is not a dependable nor supportive person. She is very dysfunctional and does not offer help when I need it most. If I were not tied to her financially I would be move out tbh.

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posted November 28, 2016 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunarRose:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hypatia238:
[b]If you have saturn in the 2H I imagine you are... always anxious about money or best case just responsible about paying your bills on time and saving. Perhaps worried you will never be financially independent and be able to take care of yourself.

OK but it's my mom whose Saturn is in the 2nd. Otherwise you have most of it right. She has a complex chart and is more Saturnine than I'll ever be. She paid her bills but never saved money. She likes luxury but she can strip herself down to bare bones with food, money, products. There is no pleasing her though. She wishes my life would consist of business she approves and pleasure she approves. She came from some money, but neither of us have had any in my lifetime. There is just no end to her critical and controlling ways. I know she wants me to be successful and fix both of our fiances, but other than that I don't know. She is not a dependable nor supportive person. She is very dysfunctional and does not offer help when I need it most. If I were not tied to her financially I would be move out tbh.[/B][/QUOTE]

Huh? She does not save money? I guess Saturn in the 2nd can also feel like you are always just barely making ends meet and always lacking in funds then!.

Maybe Saturn in the 2H feels they can't barely get by and unlucky with money. She needs to learn to get herself out of the poverty mentally she is stuck in and take some risks in her life to better herself but she is probably too insecure and scared to do this bc of low self worth so she keeps playing it safe but never does anything to advance herself like going back to school so she can qualify for a higher paying job.

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posted November 29, 2016 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunarRose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Huh? She does not save money? I guess Saturn in the 2nd can also feel like you are always just barely making ends meet and always lacking in funds then!.

Maybe Saturn in the 2H feels they can't barely get by and unlucky with money. She needs to learn to get herself out of the poverty mentally she is stuck in and take some risks in her life to better herself but she is probably too insecure and scared to do this bc of low self worth so she keeps playing it safe but never does anything to advance herself like going back to school so she can qualify for a higher paying job.



I guess Saturn in the 2nd could go either way- responsible and conservative or lacking funds and unlucky with money. I would like to see her go back to school, because she is intellgent, but that is unlikely, because she has several health problems.

I know this may be hard to believe, but I don't mind sharing finances. My real issue is we have different interests and values and I am tired of hearing her insults. She hates eating and has only a few treasured material possessions. This does not have to do with money. She had an ED as a teen and still has that mentality.

My social life has hit a nadir these last few years and my attempts at friendship with her rarely work. It's always one criticism or another "Why did you buy that? Don't you need blank?" or "Why are dating him? What do you even have in common? What do you see in him?" or "Why are friends with her?" or "Why are you eating that?" etc. She can't ever be happy for me or just let me be and I'm kind of sad and frustrated about that in particular.

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posted November 29, 2016 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunarRose:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hypatia238:
[b] Huh? She does not save money? I guess Saturn in the 2nd can also feel like you are always just barely making ends meet and always lacking in funds then!.

Maybe Saturn in the 2H feels they can't barely get by and unlucky with money. She needs to learn to get herself out of the poverty mentally she is stuck in and take some risks in her life to better herself but she is probably too insecure and scared to do this bc of low self worth so she keeps playing it safe but never does anything to advance herself like going back to school so she can qualify for a higher paying job.


I guess Saturn in the 2nd could go either way- responsible and conservative or lacking funds and unlucky with money. I would like to see her go back to school, because she is intellgent, but that is unlikely, because she has several health problems.

I know this may be hard to believe, but I don't mind sharing finances. My real issue is we have different interests and values and I am tired of hearing her insults. She hates eating and has only a few treasured material possessions. This does not have to do with money. She had an ED as a teen and still has that mentality.

My social life has hit a nadir these last few years and my attempts at friendship with her rarely work. It's always one criticism or another "Why did you buy that? Don't you need blank?" or "Why are dating him? What do you even have in common? What do you see in him?" or "Why are friends with her?" or "Why are you eating that?" etc. She can't ever be happy for me or just let me be and I'm kind of sad and frustrated about that in particular. [/B][/QUOTE]

I dont think her critical side can be explained by Saturn in the 2H IMO. If you want post her chart perhaps we can give our opinion as to why she is so hard on you and critical.

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posted November 29, 2016 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have it in the 2nd. I don't think people should mess with the purity of the houses and this house is money. I have not been without money, but I respect it and respect the lessons of working for what you want through discipline and delayed gratification lol

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posted November 29, 2016 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have it in the 2nd. I don't think people should mess with the purity of the houses and this house is money. I have not been without money, but I respect it and respect the lessons of working for what you want through discipline and delayed gratification lol


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posted November 29, 2016 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunarRose:
What are your experiences with this placement? My mom and I share Saturn in Aqua (not conjunct though) but they're in opposite houses. I have H8 Saturn Rx; she has H2 Saturn Rx. I really can't relate to her placement. It's a source of friction between us.

I have Saturn in Sag in my 2nd house and my mom has Saturn in Sag in her 8th house, currently we're both on our Saturn Return, and it's been hard, her Saturn return made her loose her job, she was administrating some business and I guess 8th house (other's people money) Saturn return and gone. Not that she had any issues, but simply they decided to close the entire office in the city.

Money is been in and out for the past year, no steady job but as in right now Saturn in Sag is helping me getting money in different currency, since I'm working with foreigners, maybe Sagittarius is playing that role on my chart, money comes slowly that's for sure so I'm sure this Saturn return is more like a blessing.

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posted November 29, 2016 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
If you have saturn in the 2H I imagine you are very cautious with money and like to have savings. Always worried about a rainy day, anxious about money, insecure about your earning capacity and worry you are not earning enough or best case just super responsible about paying your bills on time and saving. Perhaps worried you will never be financially independent and be able to take care of yourself. You also probably lean more towards conservative values when it comes to economics.

You just described me completely, amazing.

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