posted November 28, 2016 04:31 AM            

Rulerships are incredibly detrimental, because 1) they are a pure fabric of imagination. There is no basis on reality for these claims of sign to planet major connection.

Let's name fixed air change it to Alfred.

Alfred is ruled by uranus.

It doesnt sound right does it.

I've experienced fixed air. It's positive. It's creative. It's focused on others and pleasing them, at least for me.

That's all it was. It was understanding.

For millions of people to think that that fixed air energy is highly rebellious, highly 'genious' and highly 'strange and different'

purely based off of a planet that was assigned to it,

Is detrimental

Try to actually experience aquarius energy before you say 'no they both have those qualities. aqua is always different. always rebellious'

because actually no aqua's are not. Actually look at some. They are fixed air. Their thoughts are unchanging and usually made up. They have a fixed lifestyle depending on how strong the fixivity, but even then, that's just an idea. I dont know if they have fixed lifestyles. But the sign is fixed meaning taking measures to not change.

Actually experience pisces and neptune. Pisces is as smart as uranus. It's also harmonious like venus. It can also be self destructive as mars. It is analytical at least from my experiences but also spiritual. Do not say venus can not be spiritual, or that jupiter doesn't have idealism, or that the moon's inner feelings do not guide it.

posted November 28, 2016 04:57 AM            

I have to disagree with your statement. This is because using humanity in order to come to a logical conclusion based on such an arbitrary topic is impossible. Humans are made up of several different energies, so many in fact that trying to use humans in order to define the true meaning of a planet's nature can lead to extremely flawed conclusions. You can't say that Venus is spiritual too because Librans and Taureans you've met have demonstrated these qualities. It's like saying that the planets are everything, and if something is everything than it cannot be defined to a single defintion.

Doing so would break astrological methods entirely. The identification of planets and the traits they attribute allow for humans to grasp an understanding of the human nature around us. Of course, not all Aquarians are rebellious and have superiority complexes; that would be a fatalistic statement. Saying that Uranus is a rebellious planet would be okay, because here we are talking about the way this planet works, and by doing so we are allowing for a way to identify the makeup of Aquarians that do demonstrate these traits.

posted November 28, 2016 05:03 AM            

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It's not that rulerships are detrimental to one's understanding of astrology, but that it is those that believe in an absolute form of identification that is detrimental to astrology.

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alright i drank a bit of wine so having trouble grasping what you are saying. (i dont normally drink much at all)

so you are saying anyone who is relying on absolute defining/identifying is detrimental. Ok. The only absolute definition i said was fixed air. If i can't do that, what am i supposed to do. I didnt say any other definitions. I said not all aquas are rebellious, i said a couple layman terms that they are communicative and thinkers and creative. so maybe we agree because saying that all aqua's are uranus like, would be defining. and coming to a conclusion when maybe there is no real basis

posted November 28, 2016 05:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I have to disagree with your statement. This is because using humanity in order to come to a logical conclusion based on such an arbitrary topic is impossible.

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Okay. So that contradicts anything of the sort that would say uranus and aqua are similar. you said its impossible to use humanity to base any kind of conclusion, so that goes for having aqua and uranus similar as well. we agree then. ( ? )

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Humans are made up of several different energies, so many in fact that trying to use humans in order to define the true meaning of a planet's nature can lead to extremely flawed conclusions.

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I'm glad you think that way. Actually im the only single person on this forum who actually thinks maybe not everything is so set in stone, that the planet's energy might be different, that signs might not be exactly how we imagine them. So i agree flawed conclusions can be created. I like my picture threads though

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You can't say that Venus is spiritual too because Librans and Taureans you've met have demonstrated these qualities.

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Exactly.

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It's like saying that the planets are everything, and if something is everything than it cannot be defined to a single defintion.

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OK

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Doing so would break astrological methods entirely. The identification of planets and the traits they attribute allow for humans to grasp an understanding of the human nature around us.

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I agree. The planets all have set definitions of their energy and how it manifests. nearly all jupitarians have positive vibes. nearly all venus are aesthetical.

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Of course, not all Aquarians are rebellious and have superiority complexes; that would be a fatalistic statement. Saying that Uranus is a rebellious planet would be okay, because here we are talking about the way this planet works, and by doing so we are allowing for a way to identify the makeup of Aquarians that do demonstrate these traits.

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Alright. But why do we have to assign Alfred to Uranus? I mean fixed air. We can understand uranus by itself, and understand fixed air by itself.

posted November 28, 2016 05:46 AM            

yeahh yeahh look at that fixed fire. Totally similar to the sun!!

That giant massive ball that rises every day. Totally fire. I get it. it's hot. it has to be a fire sign, the pure energy and drive it instills in us, is very similar to the centripital energy segment that is fixed and also the other trait corresponds to moving and being fun loving. Totally matches the sun.

So much so, that EVERYONE WITH ASC IN CAPRICORN, SATURN IN LEO, WILL HAVE EXTRA CONNECTION TO THE SUN.

Merely because magic. It's basically like a giant real life rope, that goes out towards the sun, it THEN GOES back to the LEO sign. It awaits there. Whenever a planet touches the leo sign, that rope FASTENS itelf to that planet. And thus the planet feeds its energy to that sun. It puts the rope into its mouth and starts spitting out and singing its tune to the sun. Wait

No I got it backwards. The sun is singing its tune to the planet in leo. This way that planet exhibits the sun's traits.

posted November 28, 2016 07:33 AM            

And I know capricorn. As I experienced it's progression, suddenly i was focusing very much on physicality. The texture of things, the things that were in the same room as me I just focused on. It was earth. Physicality. And it was cardinal. If it was fixed it would be like i have been emmersed in physicality for decades and that was a part of who I was, the earth.

If it's cardinal it means it is starting on you for the first time, you are realizing this kettle for the first time and using it. You are looking at the rug for the first time and noticing its physicality. Cardinal means things are being started upon you.

There is no way anyone could say that saturn's energy, which was based on order, having this weight that pushes you to understand reality, is similar in the slightest to being pushed to feel and see physicality.

I've experienced them both. I know they are completely different.

And it's even further of a stretch, if saturn and capricorn have 2 completely different feelings, to go on to say that if your ascendant was capricorn, and then you had saturn in leo, that somehow even though the sun's energy too is not in the same field as leos, but to say that the sun's energy would vibrate to saturn because saturn was merely in leo, and that would reflect or vibrate energy to the ascendant because it was in capricorn, is just a stretch.

Especially when Capricorn is physicality. I've experienced it. And its cardinal.

The sun is pure energy force.