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Faith
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posted November 29, 2016 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With Uranus t-squaring both, we have these unexpected twists and turns.

In today's news, Jupiter (celebration/fun) turns Plutonian (scary):

1) Ohio State wins big game, then immediately suffers terror attack

2) Brazilian Soccer Team Plane crash

"What was supposed to be a celebration has turned into a tragedy,” Medellin Mayor Federico Gutiérrez said from the search and rescue command center, according to the Los Angeles Times."

3) Wildfires threaten Dollywood amusement park, visitors evacuated.

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Then conversely, from Pluto to Jupiter...

Sherri Papini freed:

"The first thing I would like to address is the overwhelming amount of gratitude our entire family has for the thousands of people that have been on this torturous journey with us."
http://people.com/crime/sherri- papinis-husband-reveals-horrific-condition-after-her-release-covered-in-bruises-hair-shaved-and-weighing-87-lbs/

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Electro DGX
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posted November 29, 2016 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always had a deep set feeling that at some point in time the country will erupt into a chaos that will cleanse and give birth to something reborn, and that the US Pluto Return might do just that. With all of these events turning up like this, it continues to validate my thoughts on such?

Where have you been? I haven't seen you on much lately 😁🤔

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Faith
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posted November 29, 2016 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Electro

Hope you are well.

quote:
I've always had a deep set feeling that at some point in time the country will erupt into a chaos that will cleanse and give birth to something reborn, and that the US Pluto Return might do just that. With all of these events turning up like this, it continues to validate my thoughts on such?

Great point

US Pluto Return happens in 2022-2023
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence

Edit: I think tr Pluto on my sun makes me want to talk less and do more, that's why I've been gone.

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Faith
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posted November 29, 2016 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgot to add the facts, for those who don't keep up with transits.

Today:

16 Libra Jupiter
15 Cap Pluto
20 Aries Uranus

The Jupiter/Pluto square was exact on Nov 24th.

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kewf1988
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posted November 29, 2016 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kewf1988     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I can really see that happening... people having enough of the "old ways" and creating havoc (Pluto in Scorpio will nearly all be in their 30s and most of Pluto in Libra also has Uranus in Scorpio and the ones with Uranus in Libra will reach their 50s, thus getting in power). It's inevitable as it's a Pluto RETURN and not just a regular transit. Something will happen and there's only so much corruption people can take...

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posted November 30, 2016 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting developments in the Papini case..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3980270/Sheriff-s-office-investigating-bizarre-blog-spewing-hatred-against-Latinos-purportedly-written-kidnapped-mom-two-Sherri-Papini-ex-hu sband-says-malicious-prank-isn-t-racist.html

(Also hi Faith! Miss you around these parts)

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posted December 01, 2016 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dont know how its affecting my chart,but i felt so sad and depressed when i heard of that airplane crush -i actually started crying-i am emotional,but usually i try to dismiss this kind of news...but i couldnt with them,the tought how excited they might have been when they boarded,as all young people get when they travell with their friens...i just cant... Rip

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posted December 01, 2016 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think this jupiter square pluto unfortunately will lessen the good effect of those who had good natal jupiter or pluto in their chart for the 80s generation who experiment the current conjunction of transiting jupiter on their natal pluto.

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Faith
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posted December 01, 2016 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks athenaia! You're one of the people I miss talking to when I leave sometimes. Or when you do.

Interesting twist on the Papini case.

Thanks for the link

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posted December 01, 2016 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw I have this natally:

15 Cap sun
16 Aries Jupiter
11 Libra Pluto

So this transiting Jupiter/Pluto square hit me personally, yet nothing really happened. Maybe the Jupiter/Jupiter opposition kept me in a positive holding pattern.

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posted December 01, 2016 11:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to add that this battle of the gods is linked to the Hades (Pluto)/Persephone myth, since Uranus conj Ceres closely, and Demeter/Ceres (who is a sister of both Hades and Zeus, and Chiron too) scorches the land during her grief, the torch is one of her symbols, so it is likely for the whole configuration to be linked with fire (conj Uranus in Aries). The fire in the context of this configuration is symbolic for the descent into underworld as an important theme of this configuration. It's a katabasis period.

My ASC 19 Cap
Saturn 17 Cancer
Chiron 23 Aries

EDIT: and Merc 11 Libra

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posted December 01, 2016 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Hi Electro

Hope you are well.

Great point

US Pluto Return happens in 2022-2023
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence

Edit: I think tr Pluto on my sun makes me want to talk less and do more, that's why I've been gone.



Glad to see you faith! Tr Pluto has been conjunct my Sun for a whIle now, and will be for a long time so I understand wanting to do less. I hope you're surviving it okay! I'm sending you good vibes

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posted December 01, 2016 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm consistently depressed, and two of them haven't even reached my Sun/Chiron/Ceres yet.

I don't have anything to add, I just wanted to say "hi".

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Faith
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posted December 02, 2016 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'd like to add that this battle of the gods is linked to the Hades (Pluto)/Persephone myth, since Uranus conj Ceres closely, and Demeter/Ceres (who is a sister of both Hades and Zeus, and Chiron too) scorches the land during her grief, the torch is one of her symbols, so it is likely for the whole configuration to be linked with fire (conj Uranus in Aries). The fire in the context of this configuration is symbolic for the descent into underworld as an important theme of this configuration. It's a katabasis period.

My ASC 19 Cap
Saturn 17 Cancer
Chiron 23 Aries

EDIT: and Merc 11 Libra


Amazing analysis, Lee. Thanks so much.

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Faith
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posted December 02, 2016 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
Glad to see you faith! Tr Pluto has been conjunct my Sun for a whIle now, and will be for a long time so I understand wanting to do less. I hope you're surviving it okay! I'm sending you good vibes


Much appreciated, Mergoatsun. I've actually wanted to do more and more.

I have a lot of transits going on simultaneously, but tr Saturn opposing my Mars apparently galvanizes and encourages it to take action, with an eye to long-term goals, building simple habits that have a cumulative value.

Tr Pluto on my sun has asked me to confront my own ambitious nature, to reckon with it, honor it, be it. Sound familiar?

Wishing you the best, as well!

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posted December 02, 2016 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
I'm consistently depressed, and two of them haven't even reached my Sun/Chiron/Ceres yet.

I don't have anything to add, I just wanted to say "hi".


Hi teasel

I was listening to your NN song earlier today. Remember this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl5EqjtRuGU&spfreload=5

Hope it's that kind of day for you. One day at a time.

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Faith
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posted December 02, 2016 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Come to think of it, here's another song I just chanced upon this morning...actually it's an old favorite I'd forgotten about.

Speaking of fire:

Me, I think that you're in her heart
You're the match of Jericho
That will burn this whole madhouse down

Iceblink Luck - Cocteau Twins

Transiting moon in Capricorn adding emotion to the Pluto/Jupiter square at the moment.

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posted December 02, 2016 12:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:

Come to think of it, here's another song I just chanced upon this morning...actually it's an old favorite I'd forgotten about.

Speaking of fire:

Me, I think that you're in her heart
You're the match of Jericho
That will burn this whole madhouse down

Iceblink Luck - Cocteau Twins

Transiting moon in Capricorn adding emotion to the Pluto/Jupiter square at the moment.


Just how I feel! thank you, Faith

Moon conj Pluto now

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Faith
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posted December 03, 2016 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful, Lee!

Well I got another load full of bad news when I checked people.com today. Another child killing his family members, and one killing herself in front of her family. I think Pluto in Capricon is tough on family dynamics, that is something I've observed for a few years now.

With Jupiter and Uranus-Ceres t-squaring Pluto, I guess it's all the worse.

But again, conversely, there are some unexpected bits of positive news. This was published yesterday with the moon in Capricorn:
http://people.com/babies/irina-shayk-pregnant-no-one-suspected-victorias-secret-show/

What's funny about it is, Bradley Cooper and Irina Shayk have their suns conjunct in Capricorn (conjunct transiting moon-Pluto yesterday).

Cooper, January 5
Shayk, January 6

Off topic, Cooper broke with his previous girlfriend Suki Waterhouse to date Shayk. Waterhouse was born January 5th.

Conclusion: Bradley Cooper is into astrology, or really into himself and his own energy, or both.

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