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Ami Anne
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posted December 01, 2016 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Pluto in the 12th House

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I don’t know if I have another article on Pluto in the 12th House. I am an earth void. I have learned more about Pluto in the 12th since I wrote the last article, if I did. Back to the subject, Pluto is not a good planet to have in the 12th House. No planet really is. I call things straight. I don’t like to fudge things in an esoteric manner, so everything is a blur. I don’t think people can change if they are not told the stark truth.

The 12th House is a difficult house in which to have any planet. The reason is that the 12th House turns the planet INWARD. In this crazy world, we need to take direct action. If not, people and situations will run over us “sigh* That is a good metaphor for the 12th House. The native turns so far inward that it is very difficult for him to take action, when needed. In addition, he may not know what he is feeling. His own feelings may be amorphous. The key word for the 12th House is amorphous.

Let me give a practical example. Someone close to me has a Pluto in the 12th House. She is TOO nice. She is TOO malleable. She is TOO afraid of anger. Pluto tells us about all of our primal passions. The 12th House tells us that this naive will have a very hard time EXPRESSING any primal passions, such as rage, jealousy, the desire for power, sexual passion and aggression, DIRECTLY. Hence, he may be bullied. He may stuff his emotions inside so deeply that they emerge as obsessions or addictions. Energy pushed down will find an outlet. This is the problem with Pluto in the 12th House.

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hypatia238
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posted December 01, 2016 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see where you are going with this description but I think people who have Pluto in the 12H with Scorpio rising won't relate to it.

I have Scorpio rising sextile moon and I am very in touch with my emotions. I have pluto conjunct saturn in the 12H and for a living I help others dig deep and get in touch with their own emotions.

I am very familiar with the emotions of anger, jealousy, sexual passion and definitely don't have any hang ups expressing them just ask my husband lol.

Now I do have Scorpio rising and my chart co ruler is Mars conjunct Venus in the 10H.

Example: when I saw my ex for the fist time I went up to him and started to kiss him and that went on for two hours, it was kiss at first sight. After that we talked briefly and exchanged numbers. A guy who does commercials asked us if we wanted to be in a gum commercial.

If anything people will tell you that I am very passionate.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 01, 2016 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If anything is 10 or fewer degrees away from the ASC, I count it as conjunct the ASC and not 12th House, H.

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posted December 01, 2016 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I see where you are going with this description but I think people who have Pluto in the 12H with Scorpio rising won't relate to it.
I actually have experience with some of the issues mentioned here. I think it comes from my Pluto in Retrograde. However, since Pluto is conjunct my Ascendant, the problems aren't as difficult to overcome.

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posted December 01, 2016 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lerena:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hypatia238:
[b]I see where you are going with this description but I think people who have Pluto in the 12H with Scorpio rising won't relate to it.

I actually have experience with some of the issues mentioned here. I think it comes from my Pluto in Retrograde. However, since Pluto is conjunct my Ascendant, the problems aren't as difficult to overcome.[/B][/QUOTE]

Do you have Scorpio rising?
My pluto is direct.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 01, 2016 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto retro is one of the harder Retros

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posted December 01, 2016 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Do you have Scorpio rising?
Yes.

quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Pluto retro is one of the harder Retros.
In what way? I haven't been able to understand how my Pluto manifests for me. Actually, I don't really understand what it means when a planet is in retrograde, which frustrates me since I can never figure out how my generational planets, the only planets that are retrograde in my chart, function due to their retrograde status.

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posted December 22, 2016 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharon_1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami Anne

What if Pluto is also tightly conjunct the North Node? Does it highlight it even more or make it stronger to not be a push over. I have this and I'm easy going but not so where it counts.

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posted December 22, 2016 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome
Sharon. Yes you will have a strong Pluto due to the NN placement

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posted December 22, 2016 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharon_1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ami Anne

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Ami Anne
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posted December 22, 2016 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sharon_1977:
Thanks Ami Anne

You are welcome, my Friend. That is a very strong placement for a lot of core personal strength--very nice!

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posted December 22, 2016 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Julz87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,

That article is all me *sigh* it makes me sad. I overthink a situation that I eventually talk myself out of action for fear of the unknown.

Sun
Venus
Mars
South Node
In the 12th house.

Seriously please help me.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 22, 2016 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Julz87:
Ami,

That article is all me *sigh* it makes me sad. I overthink a situation that I eventually talk myself out of action for fear of the unknown.

Sun
Venus
Mars
South Node
In the 12th house.

Seriously please help me.


Stick up your chart, J.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 23, 2016 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please, use Astro.com and make it big, too, if you can, cuz I look at so many charts that I need them big lol

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posted December 23, 2016 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Julz87:
Ami,

That article is all me *sigh* it makes me sad. I overthink a situation that I eventually talk myself out of action for fear of the unknown.

Sun
Venus
Mars
South Node
In the 12th house.

Seriously please help me.


Soounds like a mars in the 12H thing, does your mars also aspect mercury harshly by any chance?

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Ami Anne
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posted December 23, 2016 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A 12th House stellium may do this, too, H. Don't you think?

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