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Lerena
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posted December 02, 2016 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello. I have a question.

How does Pluto Direct differ from Pluto Retrograde? Would Pluto Retrograde bring any challenges that are different from Pluto Direct?

Please don't give me links. I'd like your answer, not Google's.

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posted December 02, 2016 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VERY Different, L

Pluto is power, personal power and the Direct Pluto can express it in a direct way and the Retro kind of recycles it--round and round and finds it hard to just get it out in a direct expression.

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posted December 02, 2016 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm, maybe that influences me , on not knowing how to deal with my power

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posted December 03, 2016 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
VERY Different, L

Pluto is power, personal power and the Direct Pluto can express it in a direct way and the Retro kind of recycles it--round and round and finds it hard to just get it out in a direct expression.


I don't understand your explanation. Can you give me an example to help me better understand the difference? I'm just trying to understand how my Pluto is Retrograde, because I've moved past many of the issues that a Pluto in Retrograde might have. They're in the past at this point and what you're saying seems to indicate that Pluto in Retrograde can't be overcome. I'm just confused. That's all.

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posted December 03, 2016 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lerena:
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I think she means that rxPluto is internalized as opposed to a direct Pluto.
Example: my husband has rxPluto and I have a direct Pluto. His Plutonian ways are VERY internalized whereas my Plutonian ways are out in the open for everyone to see and experience. My Pluto is STRONG and I know if I try and suppress him I'll go insane but my husband can hide his Pluto and feel perfectly fine.

My husband has rxPluto in 7H and he INdirectly uses relationships to burn himself down and then rebuild himself.

I have direct Pluto 2H and I am very DIrect with how I should achieve, what I consider, wealth. My Pluto is also square Sun and Moon and that makes me very DIrect in terms of feelings and my Ego. I'll penetrate your soul with a barrel...

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posted December 03, 2016 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Lerena
The Retro Pluto would make it hard for one to accept and act DIRECTLY on one's primal power. Does this stay the same during life?

*I* am not sure enough to say, basing it on charts I have seen, which is the only way I form my theories.

Can A Retro planet have a DIRECT channel for "primal power" in this case?

I hear your report but I, personally, could not answer that question based on my experience, so don't know.

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posted December 03, 2016 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Gemini Mercury Retro and I LEARN in a different way from other people.

I have glitches, such as I can't learn things from mirror images, such as dance, guitar etc

I need the people facing the same direction I am in.

My learning style won't change, so I am not sure Retros can change is my point.

I think they are channels and some people have them direct and some people have them in kind of a "maze" like a circular kind of route.

Hope that explains what I meant lol

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posted December 03, 2016 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have rx pluto. I think rx pluto is like have a plutonic nature (when personnal planets are aspecting) but don't feel it really in you because you don't use it demonstratively/strongly. But it's still there.
Until this year, I haven't give a look at my pluto. I didn't know how it's important in my chart... I discovered how much pluto was present when I met someone who had activate this one !! And WHAOOO ! And There, I felt/feel it !
Now I understand better some aspects of my personnality that I didn't see before because it was internalised (aspect integrative here).
This is how i feel the stuff of rx pluto for me

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posted December 04, 2016 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A pluto rx person has most probably been born into a family where expressing the plutonic features of the individuals has been considered wrong, or that when the child wanted to express some kind of rage for instance when defending his/herself against bullying, either physically, verbally or both, parents have advised them to stay silent because "it shows your personal power not to get DIRECTLY involved and that God will work his own way to avenge you".

Parents may have sugarcoated when it came to issues of money or sexual matters during puberty. They may have never given the person a direct explanation of what is going on with their body going under all these changes, or that when the family economy was suffering, parents did all they could so that the children wouldn't find out. So the person eventhough not from a rich family, never experienced fears over poverty, so they might have developed a lack of urge to "fight" for money or basic needs (shelter, status, etc) in life. Sometimes parents may have been from a lower social class but have did all they could to send the child to a school where all the rich kids or the children of important people go, so the child starts developing confusing internal issues concerning power and status.

Or any other scenario where the individual has been asked or advise to supress their rage/pluto. So this stays in their minds and the plutonic part of the person's character is shaped this way. Of course as the person ages they can learn to own up more to their pluto, but perhaps they will eventually come to the decision that they'd better not act directly on their pluto or express it freely, for various personal reasons that the individual's mind tells them it's better this way. Overall, a pluto rx person acts very differently probably throughout all their life from a pluto direct person. It also won't make much difference if the rx pluto makes aspects to many of your planets or is conjunct an angle. But Scorpio pluto rx people can have a benefit here, although they may also be more prone to self-destructiveness with pluto having more power in scorpio and being retrograde.

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