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Topic: Why do me and my mom always fight/argue
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Radium Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted December 03, 2016 01:58 PM
She's the outer circle, not accurate birth time so pay no attention to MC , AC, DC, IC aspects IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 4021 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 03, 2016 03:13 PM
Opposite Suns? AND she's a Virgo Sun Aries Moon?? You're not taking that BS, I'm gathering...IP: Logged |
Radium Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted December 03, 2016 03:24 PM
Dude it's ******* horsecrapHer Saturn is also opposite my Pluto Virgo Venus and Sun opposite my Pisces Sun and Saturn Couldn't ask for worse synastry Her moon is square my Venus and Neptune she thinks she knows me and what I think and she is always wrong, and yes I've never gotten along with Virgos..they are known for being fake lol and all she does is nitpick IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 513 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted December 03, 2016 03:55 PM
Moon conjunct mars for heat arguments. The mars usually can be irritating and aggressive for the moon. The moon can be very sensitive with the mars actions.And both of you are a scorpio rising, it can make a more intense arguments. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5444 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 03, 2016 04:00 PM
Known for been fake? I get the feeling you don't like been challenged or people giving you a reality check which are both things mothers do for our own good and things Virgo do to help. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3134 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015
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posted December 03, 2016 04:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Known for been fake? I get the feeling you don't like been challenged or people giving you a reality check which are both things mothers do for our own good and things Virgo do to help.
Totally agree!!! IP: Logged |
Radium Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted December 03, 2016 04:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by hearttreasure: Moon conjunct mars for heat arguments. The mars usually can be irritating and aggressive for the moon. The moon can be very sensitive with the mars actions.And both of you are a scorpio rising, it can make a more intense arguments.
I don't know her birth time
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scorpiogirl Knowflake Posts: 69 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 03, 2016 04:17 PM
IMO the culprit is her Mars conjunct your IC. Also, in the Equal House system her Mars would fall in your 4th house. I've got this with my mom and while we undoubtedly love each other our relationship has always been a battlefield. In any case, Mars conjunct the IC and Mars in the 4th house should be similar.IP: Logged |
Radium Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted December 03, 2016 04:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Known for been fake? I get the feeling you don't like been challenged or people giving you a reality check which are both things mothers do for our own good and things Virgo do to help.
**** probably lol but she definitely has anger issues and can be very uncooperative at times when I call her on her BS or speak my mind (moon conjunct mercury natal) she gets unreasonable, what I mean by fake is she doesn't follow her word and says hateful things out of rage, we got in a fight today hypatia, ofc I didn't fight back but when she doesn't get her way or if something isn't perfect she will lose all logic, reality check my ass more like critiquing , I could tell you some of the things has said to me but they are pretty disheartening
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BeholdAstarte Knowflake Posts: 763 From: astral plane Registered: Dec 2009
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posted December 03, 2016 04:22 PM
Mars is the culprit, her mars conj ur moon/merc and ur mars is by Mh and conj her mercury also, signifying very passionate and heated debates/conversations as well as ego battles verbally. Pluto also makes things intense and adds a more controlling element to behaviors/conversation. Very interesting dynamics between ur charts. Scorpio rising can seem to attract very dramatic relationships and themes in the life, plus her Aries moon combined with Virgo will charge up the highly critical nature of Virgo and make the sign much more impulsive and expressive of any criticism. The good thing about mars tho, is that although it does tend to flair up, it seems to forgive and forget quickly, though Scorpio rising might differ this.. it can make arguments blow over quickly and lots of forgiveness but continueing with the same pattern.. hence the Neptune influence. Honestly seems like kind of a similar influence as my dad and I in different ways. He is a Virgo with Aries moon and Pluto conj his ASC in Virgo with his mars conj his sun/merc on ASC loosely too. His Pluto conjs my moon and I also have my mars conj my sun/merc. There's such an intense dynamic between us, to me.. it feels karmic and I truelly believe we have some sort of connection from a past life and are paying it off in this life. We are so close, yet our natures and synastry of mars/Pluto makes us volatile. We argue a lot, and my dad will explode and is pretty argumentative anyways so with time he just acts like nothing happened. He gets frustrated that people take his emotions and behavior so personally and he doesn't really correlate the cause and effect aspect of relationships ha. IP: Logged |
Radium Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted December 03, 2016 04:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by BeholdAstarte: Mars is the culprit, her mars conj ur moon/merc and ur mars is by Mh and conj her mercury also, signifying very passionate and heated debates/conversations as well as ego battles verbally. Pluto also makes things intense and adds a more controlling element to behaviors/conversation. Very interesting dynamics between ur charts. Scorpio rising can seem to attract very dramatic relationships and themes in the life, plus her Aries moon combined with Virgo will charge up the highly critical nature of Virgo and make the sign much more impulsive and expressive of any criticism. The good thing about mars tho, is that although it does tend to flair up, it seems to forgive and forget quickly, though Scorpio rising might differ this.. it can make arguments blow over quickly and lots of forgiveness but continueing with the same pattern.. hence the Neptune influence. Honestly seems like kind of a similar influence as my dad and I in different ways. He is a Virgo with Aries moon and Pluto conj his ASC in Virgo with his mars conj his sun/merc on ASC loosely too. His Pluto conjs my moon and I also have my mars conj my sun/merc. There's such an intense dynamic between us, to me.. it feels karmic and I truelly believe we have some sort of connection from a past life and are paying it off in this life. We are so close, yet our natures and synastry of mars/Pluto makes us volatile. We argue a lot, and my dad will explode and is pretty argumentative anyways so with time he just acts like nothing happened. He gets frustrated that people take his emotions and behavior so personally and he doesn't really correlate the cause and effect aspect of relationships ha.
Wow! Sorry about you and your dad, at least it's reassuring to know we're not alone in this regard. Everything you said hit the nail. We argue a lot but get over it quick. Just wow, astrology is nuts sometimes IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5444 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 03, 2016 04:43 PM
Mars conjunct IC and Mars conjunct Moon are both great examples. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5444 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 03, 2016 04:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Radium: **** probably lol but she definitely has anger issues and can be very uncooperative at times when I call her on her BS or speak my mind (moon conjunct mercury natal) she gets unreasonable, what I mean by fake is she doesn't follow her word and says hateful things out of rage, we got in a fight today hypatia, ofc I didn't fight back but when she doesn't get her way or if something isn't perfect she will lose all logic, reality check my ass more like critiquing , I could tell you some of the things has said to me but they are pretty disheartening
I feel you , I think that is her moon in Aries. I have noticed females with moon in Aries can be like that. Ignore her when she gets like that, tell her to stop or you will leave the room and if she doesn't follow through then leave. Later when she calms down talk it out. Relationships with moms can be so challenging. IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2759 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 04, 2016 01:32 PM
The answer is in your own chart; Moon opposite Mars. That aspect describes how you view your Mom.Some of the blame may be on you. Moon in Aquarius is frustrating to be around or live with. Scorpio thrives on drama/pain and will provoke to get a reaction out of people. After they get their desired REACTION, their hands are suddenly clean, the deeds of the offending party are then retold in gory detail. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 3606 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 04, 2016 01:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: The answer is in your own chart; Moon opposite Mars.That aspect describes how you view your Mom.
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5444 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 04, 2016 06:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: The answer is in your own chart; Moon opposite Mars. That aspect describes how you view your Mom.Some of the blame may be on you. Moon in Aquarius is frustrating to be around or live with. Scorpio thrives on drama/pain and will provoke to get a reaction out of people. After they get their desired REACTION, their hands are suddenly clean, the deeds of the offending party are then retold in gory detail.
I don't think Scorpio rising likes drama. That rising sign is destined to go through a lot of experiences in life that are painful yes or intense bc they need to constantly transform themselves and go through this cycle of death and rebirth so maybe they seek out intense experiences that require taking risks yes but that does not equal to seeking out drama, I would say they strongly dislike drama and as they get older go out of their way to avoid drama, cutting people out of their life who bring drama, moving away from the city were is quiet and secluded ect.. Tbf she does have moon in Aries and that moon sign in females can manifest as emotional impulsivity and starting fights and drama that they shouldn't start and can be avoided due to over sensitivity stemming from been impulsive and jumping to conclusions and I feel even boredom at times yes. Odds are both are contributing the conflict and is not just him. IP: Logged |