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Topic: Ich bin ein berliner
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polkadotstars Knowflake Posts: 849 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted December 20, 2016 06:04 PM
It's so sad. I spent much of my childhood in Germany. My family loved going to the Christmas Markets, browsing the vendors, and drinking Glühwein. It will always have a special place in my heart. <3 <3 IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30231 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 21, 2016 12:00 AM
Soren, you can do both, you know? Mourning 12 dead and only 1 dead and millions without water, food, people dying in Aleppo and Russia and Vietnam and anywhere else. IMO you cannot have a warm heart, if you are seriously thinking that a life (even a single one) doesn`t matter.
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soren Knowflake Posts: 2451 From: Curdle Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 21, 2016 12:04 AM
I feel bad when a bug dies, when I accidently hurt it and it falls into water-soap and it will die, or when i have to put a spider outside, it wanted to go out in the snow, and i knew it would die, but neither me nor it wanted it inside, i felt bad. The difference is awareness, no i am not aware nor do i care to be. for those people. only when it matters, when you can make a change, other wise just wasted negativity. to me. IP: Logged |
pire Knowflake Posts: 2461 From: France Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 21, 2016 02:33 AM
Your last point makes sense to me, however your lack of understanding of other's grief, shown by you posting your comments, time and time, despite others griving and begging you to show compassion for their grief shows your lack of compassion and / or wisdom. Now be kind and if you cant simpathize with us, quietly fade away from this discussion, please. IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1426 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 23, 2016 09:39 AM
has somebody here had seen any photo, video that is not blurry or any VISUAL that is consistent with the narrative?
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soren Knowflake Posts: 2451 From: Curdle Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 23, 2016 09:54 AM
^^ why, you think it was made up (not real)?IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2451 From: Curdle Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 23, 2016 09:56 AM
i don't see anyone grieving about all the deaths happening across the galaxy, on all the other 4 million planets containing life. if you arent directly connected to things, they don't effect you. also I'm on the other side of the world from europe. I don't "feel" the energy of those people. But when stuff happens on my own continent, i do feel the connections a lot stronger, more emotions,& worry attached. (and it's not cause i'm closer at risk, it's because i'm more connected energy-wise) unless maybe if you had a sentimental connection, like most of the replyers here did, which i never have been there So I guess that was the thing that was left out. Now I know that is why I wasn't as concerned. Plus I thought it was 7, 12 is more serious, i never watched the story, my developing brain had watched enough deaths and stuff happen this year, just not interested just commented in the first place because i was excited about something IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2451 From: Curdle Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 23, 2016 10:11 AM
so i guess the final point is we only are ourselves, i dont know if i said you shouldnt grieve about this event, but i was sharing that i didnt (well i thought it was 7 people, or even 5 at first when i first heard it) to me it was actually good news, because i'm used to hearing 50 or 120 or 200 people die from some attack, to hear it was 5 is a relief. it shows things are getting better. so yeah the point was you have a domination over your energy, and i have no idea or connection to that, if i think you shouldnt be concerned (which i dont know if i was insinuating) then that has to do with MY feelings, and nothing to do with yours. therefore it is just a reflection of how I feel, and not ANYONE else, you know how you feel. Therefore Therefore I agree with Pire's last point, i *DID* not show compassion for your grief, because i only showed how i felt, but now i see Now i see just because i didnt see it as important, doesn't mean it's not to anyone else, now i know. And i only thought it wasnt important cause i thought it was 5 when i first read it or 4 IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 655 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 23, 2016 04:08 PM
So, in Venezuela Sprit is cheaper than Water, so taking that as a starting point, we can conclude that **** must be crazy out there I don`t know if any of you have read Jack London, there you will grasp a little bit more of how life is in the Wild, and guess what rules the World? The Wild I also have this think with insects, i love saving them So the attack in Berlin.. I wonder how something like that can eaven happen, but I guess it did. This hole ISIS think in europe is exagerated.. They must have a fkin good sys in Europe with cameras and stuff everywhere I also was in Koppenhagen last year, where some month ago a cop got shot in Christiania. When I was there the cops also got me, like 10 cops! saying i was terrorist hahaaha So i don`t know but there is something smelling in this hole story with bombs and bearded man And man europe people are getting too weak and crazy I never cared a lot about the kamikaze terrorist attacks, I can eaven say that sometimes I wished that chaos would bracke free for once, because I have this thought that there is no way out of it. It is something you see in the Tv or in the Net.. Of course you can feel sorry, but you also can not, and in fact I tend to the second option. Why? They are joking with us, why should i feel sorry? Oh the guy was there and the weal of the truck went over him and he died. Man you Live you Die... If it was one of the 20 people I know there it would be another story If a friend of mine tells me in some days a frined of him died, it is another story... Life is rough, I live in the countryside now, you know what they do if you try to convince them to be a vegetarian? they laugh the other day, my dog got the other dog of a man that came visit us, my dog was 10 times bigger, I went after him, trying to save the dog, feeling for it, for the owner, almost desperate.. I finally got my dog out, and raging as I was pulled it up and pushed it to the ground leaning myself against it. The owner of the bitten dog was watching the hole scene, but did not really care, he was more interested a german in despair than feeling sorry for his dog with his glassy eyes.
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Beautiful_Light Knowflake Posts: 41 From: Registered: Nov 2016
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posted December 23, 2016 07:44 PM
Yes, a lot of so-called terrorist attacks are psyops committed by government and intelligence agencies through the cooperation of media to fulfill certain agendas. You will have to do the research yourself to know the truth. The most telling are the crisis actor exposing videos and the fact that ID's and "passports" are always found at the scene of the crime. And yet there is no "real" evidence, like dead bodies or blood. When I first started learning all this, my mind was blown.That being said, people are dying around the world everyday. Just be aware to what is true and what is not. IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1426 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 24, 2016 04:18 AM
Any time I learn of a terrorist attack, I try to look for the evidence that this attack really happens in first place. but I also look at the following1. what is going on in the country policy environment, regulations. is there a law that is controversial (i.e. immigration, surveillance), but will be more palatable after the attack? will a political fraction benefit of it? in other words WHO BENEFITS from the attack? 2. is there any international event going on that can be switched if an attack occur? (for instance any UN resolution being discussed?, would the attack put pressure on the agenda or pressure a leader in the country involved in the attack?) information or lack of it is there for all of us to process and connect the dots. I do not let any narrative to tell me how events are related. I avoid too much analysis from any source (mainstream or alternative) I do not want others to tell me how things are connected, I want to find the connections on my own. I shy away of analysis made by others and try to look at the things with fresh eyes. That helps me to keep as critical and independent as possible. Of course, nobody is free from bias and we need to accept that we always are biased by our beliefs and theories, but being aware and keeping all our theories under scrutiny helps to keep the objectivity. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18560 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 24, 2016 04:44 AM
My compassion to all the Berlin victims and my love for our German friends. Yes, there are things behind terrorist attacks, such as violence, war, intolerance breeding them, or various factions not wanting for people to peacefully live together, anti-integration interests of warmongers, arm dealers, power seekers and the likes, but I am not sure why people who don't feel like a Berliner right now think they need to be on a commemorative thread, since the thread is not about them and their search for personal meaning and their displaced emotions. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1426 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 24, 2016 05:45 AM
of course, assuming somebody REALLY died...IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1426 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 24, 2016 05:47 AM
and I love Germany more than any fake pretender.. and actually is my favorite foreign country... IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30231 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 24, 2016 05:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: My compassion to all the Berlin victims and my love for our German friends. Yes, there are things behind terrorist attacks, such as violence, war, intolerance breeding them, or various factions not wanting for people to peacefully live together, anti-integration interests of warmongers, arm dealers, power seekers and the likes, but I am not sure why people who don't feel like a Berliner right now think they need to be on a commemorative thread, since the thread is not about them and their search for personal meaning and their displaced emotions.
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