posted December 20, 2016 02:22 PM            

The Second House

I have Saturn in the Second House. I have, always, tried to understand this Saturn placement in the Second House, but could not. I have not had financial worries. I have had financial ease. The Second House is defined as the house of material security: sufficient food, housing, clothes and the other exigences of life. The current point of view on the Second House is that it tells us about the self esteem of the native. I have, always, eschewed this explanation because I felt it was distorting the original definition of the Second House. However, I have been studying the Second House and am revising my thinking. I think that Saturn in the Second House could relate to self worth because self value is something one needs for security in the world.

The Sun

The Sun in the Second House would show us that obtaining and maintaining material security is a central focus in the native’s life. The House of the Sun is a very important house in the chart. The ego/identity of the native is bound up in the realm of that house.

The Moon
These natives may CRAVE material security. The House of the Moon reveals the realm of one’s longings. Everyone wants material security, but for some, it feels like one’s life blood. Look to the House of the Moon to see the realm of life which may occupy the deepest heart of the native.

Mercury

Mercury is one’s mind. The native with Mercury in the second House may spend quite a bit of time thinking about how to obtain and retain material security. He may work in a field such as finance or accounting. He may follow stocks as a hobby.

Venus
The House of Venus reveals that which we love. The Second House Venus may love the feeling of having enough money in the bank. This native may love luxurious items, such as lovely clothing and delicious gourmet food.

Mars

The planet Mars reveals that to which we aspire i.e our goals. The House in which Mars resides reveals the object(s) of our goals. Mars in the second House may aspire to financial success.

Chiron
Chiron is the planet of pain. The House of Chiron reveals our deepest pain, from my experience of doing thousands of charts( by now). I have seen the Second House Chiron reveal poverty. However, Donald Trump has a Second House Chiron and he has not experienced poverty. Hence, this widens the scope of Chiron to pain with money, in general. Perhaps, people tried to use him for his money, which must have happened quite a bit. Perhaps, money brought pain in his divorces, which must have been the case. I was very surprised to see Chiron in the Second House, but if we have the correct birth time, we do know that money may have been one of his biggest pain areas.

Neptune

The planet Neptune can show us places in which we are confused. It can, also, show areas of creativity. I find that the House which holds Neptune is, often, a realm of confusion. Hence, the Neptune in the Second House native may feel confused about how to navigate the world of money.

Pluto

Pluto powers up what it touches. It, also, seems to make for great ups and downs in the house in which it resides. Hence, the second House Pluto native may have ups and downs with money. He may have a feast or famine theme in his life.

Uranus

Uranus is the planet of sudden beginnings and endings. The house in which Uranus resides may have erratic happenings. Hence, the native with Uranus in the Second House may been offered jobs, unexpectedly. He may be fired, unexpectedly. His finances may be great one day and limited the next. Uranus is the planet of shake ups!

Saturn

Saturn is the planet of lessons. Saturn forces the native to mature and to be responsible. Hence, the second House native may learn life lessons from the arena of money. I include self worth here,as well. The native may have to learn self value through a long process of maturation.

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posted December 20, 2016 03:01 PM            

You missed the Jupiter which I have
And anti Vertex is by the Jupiter too.

posted December 20, 2016 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
All the houses are like onions. They have layers of meaning and the second is no exception. At the grossest, most materialistic and immature level it is about needing a lot of expensive stuff to make you feel secure and of value. If the person is more mature, the 2nd house is more about learning to treat everything around them as valuable - in other words to care for things, themselves, their environment, their jobs, their loved ones, their home, their family as if they were the most rare and costly treasures, even if by common judgement they would be cosidered quite ordinary. It becomes the house of making the ordinary extraordinary through the way you value and care for it.. And as the person transcends higher into tmore subtle 2nd house layers the things that they value and that make them feel valued and secure shifts and becomes more and more abstract, more about inner treasures than outer.

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posted December 20, 2016 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
Hello Ami!

You missed the Jupiter which I have
And anti Vertex is by the Jupiter too.

Also, transit Pluto is hitting my 2nd house cusp now. Sooooooooo that means my 2nd house is gonna flip flop like pancakes for a good few decades

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Thanks YG
I will add it! I, always, miss something--Earth Void

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posted December 20, 2016 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by headintheclouds91:
Nice 👍🏾

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Thank you, head. I am so glad you liked it!

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posted December 20, 2016 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
Good read.

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Thank you, Gemini. Merry Christmas. I see you are wearing your Christmas hat

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posted December 21, 2016 12:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Thanks YG
I will add it! I, always, miss something--Earth Void

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posted December 21, 2016 02:29 PM            

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posted December 21, 2016 02:46 PM            

Jupiter is the fairy godmother. He confers blessings in the house in which he resides. Hence, the native with Jupiter in the Second House will,likely, have good fortune with money, the Midas touch, perhaps!

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posted December 21, 2016 07:29 PM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
What about NN here? Pars of Fortune?

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I will add them, S

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posted December 21, 2016 07:34 PM            

This native has a life goal of navigating his way in the world of material security.

Part of Fortune

The Part of Fortune shows a place in which the native will have ease and good fortune. Hence, the Second House POF may have good fortune with money.

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posted December 22, 2016 01:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Jupiter

Jupiter is the fairy godmother. He confers blessings in the house in which he resides. Hence, the native with Jupiter in the Second House will,likely, have good fortune with money, the Midas touch, perhaps!

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Thanks Ami!

posted December 22, 2016 02:50 PM            

My boyfriend has both his sun and moon in his 2nd house and he keeps everything. Its not like he's a hoarder, but it's difficult for him to throw things out.

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posted December 22, 2016 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
I wonder if sun/moon second house people are considered pack rats, i.e., they hate to throw things away. If everything has sentimental value.

My boyfriend has both his sun and moon in his 2nd house and he keeps everything. Its not like he's a hoarder, but it's difficult for him to throw things out.

He's also super frugal. He gets Groupon deals for restaurants and then takes me out to dinner with his Groupon deal. He rarely tips 20%. When we travel he wants to find the cheapest place possible. Me on the other hand, I'm like.. 4 star hotel, yes plz. :-)

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What you describe seems more like Moon/Saturn in hard aspect or Chiron in the 2nd.

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posted December 22, 2016 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

What you describe seems more like Moon/Saturn in hard aspect or Chiron in the 2nd.

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Not in my case. I have Chiron in the second and I have told myself that I need to abandon certain items that aren't worth keeping. I most likely will forget them anyways so it's not worth keeping around.

posted December 22, 2016 06:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Not in my case. I have Chiron in the second and I have told myself that I need to abandon certain items that aren't worth keeping. I most likely will forget them anyways so it's not worth keeping around.

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I do the same with my stuff! I hate overcluttering my place with things I have no use for. If I haven't use it in a year at least, it's going to garbage. Chances are I won't remember throwing it away so why keep it and let it collect dust!

posted December 22, 2016 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Part of Fortune

The Part of Fortune shows a place in which the native will have ease and good fortune. Hence, the Second House POF may have good fortune with money.

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posted December 22, 2016 06:36 PM            

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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
I do the same with my stuff! I hate overcluttering my place with things I have no use for. If I haven't use it in a year at least, it's going to garbage. Chances are I won't remember throwing it away so why keep it and let it collect dust!

I don't have Chiron in 2nd but Jupiter which is housed in my 2nd is in a tight trine with Chiron that's in 6th house.

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I have Jupiter in the 5th trine Chiron in the second myself, so maybe it's the trine to Jupiter that does it. My 2nd house would naturally be ruled by Jupiter but it just barely falls in Scorpio on the 29th degree.

posted December 22, 2016 07:52 PM            

It's a continuing struggle and there's so many obstacles, but it's a learning process. Saturn in the 2H will definitely humble you one way or another and put you in your place. What you put out in terms of effort, is exactly what you will get. There's no shortcuts to success here and the road is long. It is a house of material gains but in my opinion, it's more about how you build and establish yourself in order to achieve these gains, as well as the attitude you have towards it (looking into the particular sign helps too)

My 2H cusp is Capricorn, and my Saturn is in Capricorn too so 2H matters hits home for me.