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Ami Anne
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posted December 22, 2016 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn’t it nice to know that that great looking, cool dude could really be a homicidal maniac. JUST KIDDING, but one can see anger issues in the chart.

1.Unaspected Mars
This bad boy is simmering anger. If the Mars is in a Fixed(Leo, Aquarius, Scorpio) or Cardinal sign(Aries, Cancer, Libra or Capricorn), it is, likely, more intense than if it is in a Mutable Sign(Gemini, Virgo, Pisces). However, any which way, don’t step on his toes.

2. Pluto square the Moon
Pluto is primal passions. Pluto likes to run free not be confined to the “prison” of the square. I call the square a “prison” because it is a “locked in” aspect, in my opinion. Others may disagree. I think of the square as a locked and bolted door. One may climb in through the window, but the door is NOT budging. Hence, in the case of Pluto square the Moon, the primal passions of Pluto and the gentle, soulful emotions of the Moon are in veritable lock. Who will win? No one. That is the point. The native may simmer until a waitress brings him cold coffee and then, throw it at her.

3. Pluto square the Sun

This native may have a very sensitive ego. It may not appear to be the case. In fact, this native may appear as strong as horseradish, but strength that is not controlled is not really strength. Think of Niagra Falls. Think of Niagra Falls jumping her borders into the adjoining town— not pretty. This native may have achieved a powerful position, such as a CEO. However, be careful of his ego, lest you find yourself in Niagra Falls, outside of the borders.

4. Moon Conjunct Mars
I know someone with this aspect. He has, always, been nice to me, but do you think I will chance it? NO. One can feel the simmering anger. It provides a nice, invisible fence, such as I used to have for my dog.

5. Uranus Conjunct Mars

This dude may get engraged for no reason. His sandwich may be wrong. He may have wanted roasted chicken and you made broiled.Know what sets him off and avoid it.

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posted December 22, 2016 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is Sun Square Mars also another one?

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posted December 22, 2016 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun square Pluto
Dr. Seuss, Ram Dass, Jennifer Lawrence, Jon Stewart, Kristen Bell, Eva Green, Charlton Heston, Pierce Brosnan, Prince Charles, Sarah Vaughn, Bradley Cooper, Juliette Lewis, Stephanie Meyer, Calvin Harris, Amy Grant, Laura Bush, Ricky Martin, Sandra Dee, Doris Day, Billy Joel, January Jones, Jared Leto, Emma Roberts, Jude Law, Jamie Foxx, Selma Blair....

Moon square Pluto
Gandhi, Barack Obama, Rainer Maria Milke, Howie Mandell, Jennifer Aniston, Nicole Kidman, Meryl Streep, Steven Spielberg, Gwyneth Paltrow, Liv Tyler, Miranda Kerr, Ryan Gosling, Joe Biden, Maya Angelou, Diana Ross, Jackie Onassis...

Etc.
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posted December 22, 2016 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquagembaby:
Is Sun Square Mars also another one?


Yes, I have a part 2. If you guys like this, I will put it up.

Also, tell me your stories with anger and aspects.


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posted December 22, 2016 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obviously people love it, you posted this 6 hours ago and got two replies.

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posted December 22, 2016 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 22, 2016 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
3. Pluto square the Sun

This native may have a very sensitive ego. It may not appear to be the case. In fact, this native may appear as strong as horseradish, but strength that is not controlled is not really strength. Think of Niagra Falls. Think of Niagra Falls jumping her borders into the adjoining town— not pretty. This native may have achieved a powerful position, such as a CEO. However, be careful of his ego, lest you find yourself in Niagra Falls, outside of the borders.


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posted December 22, 2016 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun square Pluto is the control-freak, control-freaks don't really let anger erupt like a volcano...unless they lose control. I think it would be related more to pure domination, the will to ruthlessly step on anyone who comes in the path in a chill, cold manner rather than just go off like a volcano.

Agree with Mars/Uranus to some extent, my crush has the opposition, my friend once asked her if she gets struck by lightning from time to time, he does not know anything about astrology but he was soo right.

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posted December 22, 2016 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon/mars conjunction with a 1 degree orb. When I was a teen, I had many quarrels with my mom, but now we have the honey relationship without the sting. I also don't get angry easily, I'm a very peaceful person, and the only Taurean influence I have is Chiron (I also got 2nd house SN).

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posted December 23, 2016 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You forgot Mars in 12th house conjunct ASC.

Simmers for a long time beneath the surface, but every once in a while explodes like a pressure cooker, and you don´t want to be around if this happens.

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posted December 23, 2016 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^My children have those in Scorpio. BUT they deal with my Pluto/Sun/Mars conjunction .

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posted December 23, 2016 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Sun square Pluto is the control-freak, control-freaks don't really let anger erupt like a volcano...unless they lose control.

I think it would be related more to pure domination, the will to ruthlessly step on anyone who comes in the path in a chill, cold manner rather than just go off like a volcano.


Yes. I think the same.

I have sun square pluto wide aspect, and thankfully it is 8°xx so the energy is less intense than my close friend who has closer aspect (but I think his scorp moon may contribute the energy but for sure he is obviously a control freak to anyone & anything than me who's only a control freak to my inner demons lol).

My opinion is, if you ever saw the sun square pluto people lose their anger or like a volcanic anger? well, I don't think it comes from this aspect alone. As I have one, the energy of this aspect tend to chill or gives strong cold manner if someone crosses the path. If I don't have one, my Aries moon might be an uncontrollable fire or some would say in bad tempers, so yeah, thanks to Sun square pluto who imprison all the demons inside, it resists the volcanic. LOL.

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posted December 23, 2016 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
You forgot Mars in 12th house conjunct ASC.

Simmers for a long time beneath the surface, but every once in a while explodes like a pressure cooker, and you don´t want to be around if this happens.


+ everything volcanic is actually related to Pluto and other underworld structures (such as the 12th house) (simmering under the surface, erupting for a rather long time - Pluto). Mars is the planet of "anger" so Mars/Pluto is usually the first aspect to consider for such a theme imo (any Mars/Pluto aspect). Looking at Hephaistos and Vulcan could also be interesting.

Mars/Pluto on the other hand gives immense power for self-control and "targeted" anger (power on oneself/the other) although inside a huge storm is going on at all times. Similar energy with different expression happens with Sun and Moon to Pluto (in regards to power games).

Also, fire Moons and Marses have the potential for explosive anger, and any fire personal planet, for that matter.

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posted December 23, 2016 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,

I agree. Good call about Vulcanus btw.

Well my Mars is in Sag - I tend to forget about my anger quickly. I can´t really keep up being angry for long.

Actually another mutable Mars recently mused on how he is really annoyed that he cannot maintain being angry for long (flares up and down quickly).

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posted December 23, 2016 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're right, Ceri, it seems Pluto is the one bringing sustained anger. Many Plutonians hold anger and grudges for a long time, sometimes forever hehehe or there is some sort of permanent quality to it. I am Mars/Pluto/Mercury stellium myself, and I can say once the volcano erupts, I know it takes a long time and any attempt to put it down is like trying to put out a volcano with extinguishers. I have learned to redirect it towards creative pursuits or physical activity (being Mars for me) if I can't use it on the "source" although I do prefer to use the energy on the source.

I just checked my Hephaistos (2212) and the Uranian Vulkanus, they are both conjunct in Cancer 6th, 5.16 and 6.16 in exact sq with my Pluto, 6.04, the mdp of my Pluto stellium in Libra. Cancer/6th might show anger release needs to take place otherwise psychosomatic manifestations are likely. I remember I held my anger some years ago, repressed it and indeed I had a sudden unexplained vertigo for weeks, no doctor knew what it was about. So there you go, all of you, especially Plutonians, let it out babes!

EDIT: 12th house Mars is also prone to psychosomatic transgressions of repressed anger.

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posted December 23, 2016 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, true that. Repressed anger often is psychosomatic for me, including iron deficiency, it is so descriptive it is not even funny anymore. lol


Healthy anger however is a pretty good source of energy and doing something constructive.

PErsonally I don`t really hold onto my anger long, not the fiery kind at least, but I do draw my conclusions and consequences. And that`s that. really.


Mars-Neptune-NN on ASC sextile Pluto on MC


Vulkanus is on 6°50 Cancer in my chart, and since the orbs have to be really small with the uranians I would not really count the square to PLuto on 9 Libra as very meaningful, Vulkanus however IS opposite Venus on 6°07 Cap (which is interesting, considering they were-unhappily- married).

But apart from the myth, Vulkanus-Venus sounds rather intense, too. Putting Pluto into the whole, oh well, but I am disgressing, this is not so much about anger I guess.


Hephaistos is on 28 Gemini in my 7th house

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posted December 23, 2016 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
^^^My children have those in Scorpio. BUT they deal with my Pluto/Sun/Mars conjunction .

Happy Christmas .


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posted December 23, 2016 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Sun square Pluto is the control-freak, control-freaks don't really let anger erupt like a volcano...unless they lose control. I think it would be related more to pure domination, the will to ruthlessly step on anyone who comes in the path in a chill, cold manner rather than just go off like a volcano.

Agree with Mars/Uranus to some extent, my crush has the opposition, my friend once asked her if she gets struck by lightning from time to time, he does not know anything about astrology but he was soo right.



Great post. Thank you

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posted December 23, 2016 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
I have moon/mars conjunction with a 1 degree orb. When I was a teen, I had many quarrels with my mom, but now we have the honey relationship without the sting. I also don't get angry easily, I'm a very peaceful person, and the only Taurean influence I have is Chiron (I also got 2nd house SN).


What sign is the Mars/Moon conjunction in, A?

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posted December 23, 2016 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Heart!

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posted December 23, 2016 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok- General question---How would you compare Pluto in the various Pluto/Sun aspects--conjunction, trine, opposition and square. If you could give examples or make illustrative scenarios, that would be great for learning! Then, we can look at the other Pluto squares and see who they function.
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posted December 23, 2016 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok- General question---How would you compare Pluto in the various Pluto/Sun aspects--conjunction, trine, opposition and square. If you could give examples or make illustrative scenarios, that would be great for learning! Then, we can look at the other Pluto squares and see who they function.

Why spotlight this one? The OP is about five aspects.

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posted December 23, 2016 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sun square Pluto
Dr. Seuss, Ram Dass, Jennifer Lawrence, Jon Stewart, Kristen Bell, Eva Green, Charlton Heston, Pierce Brosnan, Prince Charles, Sarah Vaughn, Bradley Cooper, Juliette Lewis, Stephanie Meyer, Calvin Harris, Amy Grant, Laura Bush, Ricky Martin, Sandra Dee, Doris Day, Billy Joel, January Jones, Jared Leto, Emma Roberts, Jude Law, Jamie Foxx, Selma Blair....

Moon square Pluto
Gandhi, Barack Obama, Rainer Maria Milke, Howie Mandell, Jennifer Aniston, Nicole Kidman, Meryl Streep, Steven Spielberg, Gwyneth Paltrow, Liv Tyler, Miranda Kerr, Ryan Gosling, Joe Biden, Maya Angelou, Diana Ross, Jackie Onassis...

Etc.
http://astro-charts.com/persons/aspect/


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posted December 23, 2016 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about a Sun square Pluto coupled with an unaspected 12th house Scorpio-Mars. Sounds fun right?

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posted December 23, 2016 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon conjunct Mars:

Angelina Jolie, Celine Dion, Mark Zuckerberg, Ricky Martin, Ringo Starr, Michael Moore, Chris Pratt, Christina Applegate, Liza Minnelli, Tyrese Gibson, Twiggy, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Billy Graham, Tennessee Williams, Rufus Wainwright, Bob Newhart, Les Paul, Bruce Lee, e.e. Cummings, Jennifer Gardner, Keanu Reeves, Ryan Reynolds, Rosa Parks, Bernie Sanders, Lyndon B. Johnson, Martin Sheen, Van Morrison, Tori Amos

Hardly dogs requiring invisible fences...more like passionate and talented people with plenty of drive and motivation.

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