posted December 23, 2016 09:10 AM            

alright well something peculiar about the ocean is it deeps 2 degrees higher from the land horizon (if the ocean were to disappear) the land horizon would be 2 degrees lower. I was trying to find my true land-ascendant. But nevermind- along the way i found amazing proof of synastry. Mind blowing.

So i can easily gather a lot of pictures and order them cause i am mathematical, and intrigued. I got degrees 17-27 of girls (for interest cause im not as interested as looking at men currently in life)

of venus in invidual rows in those degrees in cancer and beside them 5 pics of capricorn. so it looks like this

17 degrees cap venus (a row of 5 people with it) then ---> 17 degrees cancer venus (right beside the others to make a row of 10)

then a row of 5 18d cap venus, --> 5 18d cancer venuses.

the point was to see if any *REALLY* stuck out.

Well I found that the row 1.5 degrees from my neptune (17 d cancer/cap), the CANCER ones seemed VERY neptunian, but the others ones didnt really to me.

So i thought wow, you can really see the neptune energy. They look like neptunians. kind of weird and yellowish skin tone. (that's what i notice for neptune)

So when i got to the 27th degree (my nodal degree) it was strange, i don't know if many of you remember that thread where i was showing pictures of people with draconic aries/pisces, well all of them had the sun to the left/right just to the left/right of the NN. so they were conjunct it within a couple of degrees for nearly all.

well when i was looking at 27 cancer (opposite my NN) at first i thought they looked more serious, and i was picking up on my saturn (3 degrees from it) but after i was looking around for a while, i started to notice this line (27 cancer) looked EXACTLY like the sun-NN conjunctions, a kind of really strange look. see here

until i realized, (for me) the point opposite to a point on your chart- they will look exactly what that point is.

so i was intrigued- i also noticed the ones BESIDE the NN opposites (the NN opposites looked like the NN energy, to me) the ones beside these N.N. opposites all looked golden, lit up, and wonderful. i already noticed that before i realized the NN energy what i was looking at. Before I made any connections they lit up.

So i looked up aspect search "sun opposite N.N." (conjunct south node) and they all looked lit up, wonderful and exactly like the ones that were conjunct my NN (so therefore from what i'm observing is they will have SN energy) and no i'm not making this up. You can easily verify this yourself**

So once again i'll say that it's true for me, a person will not look like the point conjunct your point, they will look like that point that in your chart that they have a planet opposing. So if you look at someone with venus opposite your saturn, they will look saturnian. But not quite as much (for me) if they have conjunct.

***by looking up people with a planet exactly (within 25 minutes/0.45 d) opposite of your SN, and just enlarge their pictures "take in their energy" for 5 or more of them, then after look up sun-SN conjunctions and they will have the same energy.

So that is quite amazing (though you'll have to make a free account to enlarge pictures)

So wow.

Anyway yeah it helped me figure out my asc although i'm still verifying.

Well here are the pics of cap venus<-5 on left with cancer venus->right 5. each row it goes up by 1 degree 17->18->19, from 17 to 27. So if you have planets there (in either cap or cancer) some should stick out. For example if you had saturn at 18 cap, then the cancers (at least for me) should look quite saturnian. then you can notice what a conjunction looks like (like you are them, you feel inside of them and even very close)

posted December 23, 2016 11:19 AM            

No you got it wrong a bit,

Their Sun/S.node conjunctoin does not need to be conjunct yours, infact i have no idea what effect that would bring. The Sun/S.node conjunction will look exactly like a planet opposite your South node.

I don't know if it's just me, but i don't think it is. It makes sense that you are you, you are conjunct with you, others make 2, 2 are like an opposition. Therefore when the opposite person has an opposition to your planet, you will see that in them.

I have the dragon's egg (just made that up dk what to call it but the pre-natal (3 week earlier) solar eclipse) exactly conjunct (thoerizing only) my land horizon (beneath ocean).

I feel some of the strongest connections to 25 degree that I have ever felt before. Cutest people ever, to me. (that whole row, so not just a coincedence) I analyze strongly so i can see the energy. I can see the neptune influence, the SN/NN influence, the saturn influence, and my asc Influence (true ocean asc and + land beneath, yes it is strongly apparent, 2 degrees away they stick out, 2 d above and below 23 degrees [which on either side of the horizon is what is 2 degees lower]).

posted December 23, 2016 11:38 AM            

If i find the dragon's egg people cute, and i have it (possibly) exactly conjunct my land asc, and the venus opposite NN people look like NN energy does in people who have it strong, that means i am actually looking at a reflection of my own energy, my own north node energy, in others!!

Which means if the dragons egg (made up, pre-natal eclipse) is what i find super cute in others, it also means that i must be super cute because i have it (theoretically) conjunct my asc.

*well at least it means i'm looking at a reflection of my own energy, i'm seeing my own dragon's egg in others.

posted December 23, 2016 11:49 AM            

Separately. It doesn't tie in with your synastry. But the part below does. So look up Sun S node conjunctions (anywhere on the chart) so you can see what S node energy looks like.

posted December 23, 2016 10:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
soren,
I have the n Sun- South Node conjunction myself, quite exact, and his Venus opposes it exactly at 0.
I dont see the "South Node energy" in them...How does the south node energy look like anyway?

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posted December 23, 2016 11:11 PM            

so they are pretty special, and BIG, energy.

i do not know anything about the square, but just that it will also connect to the whole big rings, and is practically as significant as the conjunction, because the conjunction is like a conjunction to aries point, where 2 giant rings cross, but the square would be where those 2 rings are furthest, like at cancer or capricorn point, which is still aligning with the whole rings.

posted December 23, 2016 11:25 PM            

the only way these pics would stick out for anything is if you have a planet or point like nodes from 17-27 d cap/cancer

posted December 24, 2016 12:08 AM            

all i am showing is the amazement that people who have something opposing a point in your chart will have that energy they are opposing, if they oppose your venus with their mars, they will look venusian.

posted December 24, 2016 12:13 AM            

then they will look hygiean, and i can then see what hygeia energy looks like.

posted December 24, 2016 12:28 AM            

and when i check jupiter conjunct NN, these people really looked like SN people still, but this time with 50% jupiter instead of 50% venus. (other 50% is SN)

posted December 24, 2016 05:22 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
*made edits i suggest a re-read, vital accidents/mis-shaped not clearly worded ideas*

alright well something peculiar about the ocean is it deeps 2 degrees higher from the land horizon (if the ocean were to disappear) the land horizon would be 2 degrees lower. I was trying to find my true land-ascendant. But nevermind- along the way i found amazing proof of synastry. Mind blowing.

So i can easily gather a lot of pictures and order them cause i am mathematical, and intrigued. I got degrees 17-27 of girls (for interest cause im not as interested as looking at men currently in life)

of venus in invidual rows in those degrees in cancer and beside them 5 pics of capricorn. so it looks like this

17 degrees cap venus (a row of 5 people with it) then ---> 17 degrees cancer venus (right beside the others to make a row of 10)

then a row of 5 18d cap venus, --> 5 18d cancer venuses.

the point was to see if any *REALLY* stuck out.

Well I found that the row 1.5 degrees from my neptune (17 d cancer/cap), the CANCER ones seemed VERY neptunian, but the others ones didnt really to me.

So i thought wow, you can really see the neptune energy. They look like neptunians. kind of weird and yellowish skin tone. (that's what i notice for neptune)

So when i got to the 27th degree (my nodal degree) it was strange, i don't know if many of you remember that thread where i was showing pictures of people with draconic aries/pisces, well all of them had the sun to the left/right just to the left/right of the NN. so they were conjunct it within a couple of degrees for nearly all.

well when i was looking at 27 cancer (opposite my NN) at first i thought they looked more serious, and i was picking up on my saturn (3 degrees from it) but after i was looking around for a while, i started to notice this line (27 cancer) looked EXACTLY like the sun-NN conjunctions, a kind of really strange look. see here

until i realized, (for me) the point opposite to a point on your chart- they will look exactly what that point is.

so i was intrigued- i also noticed the ones BESIDE the NN opposites (the NN opposites looked like the NN energy, to me) the ones beside these N.N. opposites all looked golden, lit up, and wonderful. i already noticed that before i realized the NN energy what i was looking at. Before I made any connections they lit up.

So i looked up aspect search "sun opposite N.N." (conjunct south node) and they all looked lit up, wonderful and exactly like the ones that were conjunct my NN (so therefore from what i'm observing is they will have SN energy) and no i'm not making this up. You can easily verify this yourself**

So once again i'll say that it's true for me, a person will not look like the point conjunct your point, they will look like that point that in your chart that they have a planet opposing. So if you look at someone with venus opposite your saturn, they will look saturnian. But not quite as much (for me) if they have conjunct.

***by looking up people with a planet exactly (within 25 minutes/0.45 d) opposite of your SN, and just enlarge their pictures "take in their energy" for 5 or more of them, then after look up sun-SN conjunctions and they will have the same energy.

So that is quite amazing (though you'll have to make a free account to enlarge pictures)

So wow.

Anyway yeah it helped me figure out my asc although i'm still verifying.

Well here are the pics of cap venus<-5 on left with cancer venus->right 5. each row it goes up by 1 degree 17->18->19, from 17 to 27. So if you have planets there (in either cap or cancer) some should stick out. For example if you had saturn at 18 cap, then the cancers (at least for me) should look quite saturnian. then you can notice what a conjunction looks like (like you are them, you feel inside of them and even very close)

For the very last row I added one more after the one before it which was 27d cap/cancer. the last row is 29.8 d cap/cancer (cause I had a planet there)

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Hi Soren, I have not verified as I do not have planets in the degrees you mentioned and posted pictures, but I will at some point.

The message I get from your finding is that the opposite acts as a mirror, just as 7th house act as a mirror. that is why people venus opposing your saturn triggers your saturn energy and you see your saturn reflected in that person, and the person would see her venus reflected on you?

this is an interesting point as this suggest that what we perceive in people is not what they "really" are, but what we are triggered by that person. I am going to start looking at my synastry oppositions and will get back to you with my personal experience either to validate or enrich this discussion.

posted December 24, 2016 05:24 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
yes, we see that energy, energy within ourselves but projected onto them when they have something opposite to it. it's strange.

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