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ana_bee
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posted December 25, 2016 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is interesting..
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Your Soul Sign is your Rising Sign, or Ascendant. It is the sign that was rising over the horizon at the point of your birth, and therefore is the ‘dawn’ of your life. It is the most important sign in Soul Astrology because it indicates your Soul’s growth and what you came here to do.

In contrast, your sun and moon signs are the dual aspects of your personality: your sun sign is that which is in the light, that you are conscious of, and your moon sign indicates your ‘shadow’ or aspects of your personality that you are mostly unaware of.




Found this on the soul-astrology site. I was asking my self, what astrological planet or axis would point to your inner self, your soul... If that's actually possible. I naturally assumed it would be the sun or the moon, but the ascendant...??

What do you think of this?

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ana_bee
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posted December 25, 2016 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the link to the full article:
http://in5d.com/soul-astrology-what-is-my-soul-sign/

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posted December 25, 2016 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have heard this a few times but don't really agree.

Personally, I think the Moon and its Nodes (the North and South) represent the soul, since the Moon is about your emotions and the Nodes are about where you've been (South Node) and where you need to go in order to be really fulfilled (North Node). These are all things that will hit you on an unconscious, soul-level.

The Ascendant is more so a point of basic and general self-awareness that defines your life in a lot of ways and follows you throughout life. There is a somewhat unconscious quality to how the Ascendant expresses itself. But, I don't think it's about the soul, per se. It's just how you manifest yourself in this life.

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posted December 25, 2016 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ana_bee:
[B]This is interesting..
[QUOTE]Your Soul Sign is your Rising Sign, or Ascendant. It is the sign that was rising over the horizon at the point of your birth, and therefore is the ‘dawn’ of your life. It is the most important sign in Soul Astrology because it indicates your Soul’s growth and what you came here to do.

In contrast, your sun and moon signs are the dual aspects of your personality: your sun sign is that which is in the light, that you are conscious of, and your moon sign indicates your ‘shadow’ or aspects of your personality that you are mostly unaware of.



Beautifully put. I totally agree with all said above about all three. Most of my friends and relatives my own age have read Goodman's Sun Signs. I have heard most of them complain that the description while partly true, doesn't reveal all about them. I myself only learned about the moon sign alone about a year ago, and shortly after learned about the AC. That was when I got to know the "real" me. It was then that I started finding people's ACs and when I told them their feedback has always been that they definitely associate a lot more with their AC.

People who have sun, moon and the AC in one sign may not have this problem though.

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posted December 25, 2016 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just putting a different perspective out there. I feel your soul is made up by your entire chart but perhaps the ascendant is the point of origin of your soul.

My ascendant trines my moon so I suppose that could explain based on theory you present why I am more in touch with my 'shadow side' than my sun sign. Honestly in my case my moon is a side of me I am more aware of and understand more than my sun. However it could be bc I am a Virgo but my strongest planet is neptune and I have moon in Pisces opposing my sun so my sun is a bit luner and my AC trines my moon too.

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posted December 25, 2016 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am thinking that people whose sun aspect their moon that they are more in touch with their shadow side, the same for people whose AC aspect their moon. If you have neither I suppose your moon can feel a bit mysterious to you perhaps.

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posted December 26, 2016 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I read somewhere the ascendant represents the body, the moon is the psyche and the sun is the spirit. It is kind of reasonable. The ascendant is like the skeleton that gives structure to all the different facets of the chart, that actually creates the chart (especially in the eaual house system, which is the only one I use and hold valid). The glyph of the moon represents the psyche. The circle in astrology represents spirit. The sun's glyph is that of a circle with a dot in the center, that stands for the birth of the self. So, among the three main signs, I'd assume the sun sign is the main indicator for the soul's evolution, representing the most spiritual factor of them all. Nevertheless, you can learn about the soul's way in the world through other components too, such as the nodes. One needs to remember that even the nodes' location has to do with the ascendant, that being the organizing factor. Similarly one may conclude the present body has a karmic role in the evolution of the soul, even if it doesn't symbolise the undying soul itself.

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posted December 28, 2016 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kewf1988     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.evolutionaryastrology.net/soul-signs-whats-yours/

This says that your Pluto Sign is your soul sign, which makes sense in a way as each age group has a certain role to play. For example, it would be unnatural for people with Pluto in Leo to be domesticated and patriotic like Pluto in Cancer (unless you have the Sun, Moon, or ascendant there of course), and it would also be unnatural for people with Pluto in Cancer to be the anti establishment hippies and the classic rock and disco generation like Pluto in Leo. It would also be extremely unnatural for Pluto in Libra and Sagittarius to be the dark, cynical generation that Pluto in Scorpio is. The ascendant is just your "mask" so I wouldn't say that it is your soul sign, and the Moon sign might be as it's your emotional nature and security needs, but it's not your "role" in any way, like the Sun is (Pluto's like the Sun sign, but for everybody in your age group). If it isn't Pluto, then it's most likely the Sun sign.

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posted December 28, 2016 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So must of us have the same soul? That's boring.

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posted December 29, 2016 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your whole chart is your soul!

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posted December 29, 2016 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the asc/dsc is how you see the world (dsc) and how you feel about your place in the world and who you're identity is in the place of the world, your understanding of what the world thinks about you is the asc

for example as a cap asc, as i walk out to people i know, i see them as caring individuals. i see them approaching each other with kindness and seeking nurturement form each other through acts of kindness and trust and hope. me on the otherhand i feel like a cold stern person, who is hardened and tough. as i look out i see soft people but feel the opposite.

this is because aries has the strongest sense of self, get's pleasure from thinking of how others percieve them in a awesome way, will re-think about the things they said that they are proud of. aries is the start of the asc and thus is fused with cap, so my sense of self from aries is fused with cap. and my part of my self-libra (dsc start) focuses on others.


the sun is much like a spirit, as it is so vast and like your higher guidance

pluto is also like a soul, it is a penetrating cut-to-the-center type mind, and when pluto is operating it has a desire of it's own, it is like a mini shadow soul that pops out

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posted December 29, 2016 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i believe aries would be the strongest sense of self, because

it looks back to all that is (cardinal-beginning) and sees all the things that is has done. this gives it a large sense of who it was, what it has done, and thus they are attached to who they were (in the past). also because they are a fire sign which is all about feeling good. they feel good thinking about themselves. they are a feel good sign. water is more about sacredity in the universe. fire is about feeling good in all ways possible. so naturally they like to think they are pretty cool.

fixed leo would live in the now. in the now you could also have a good sense of self, but they arent looking back to who they were, rather just to more as who they are right now, which makes sense because in the 'now' they like to give gifts and just soak up the energies of that moment, constantly act large because they are experiencing the now. they dont look to the past and remember who they were all those years (as a cardinal sign constantly looks backwards) which would cause a huge sense of understanding of who you are, instead they live in the now, they act big, they get admiration because in the NOW admiration is important to feeling good.

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posted December 29, 2016 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not know.

I am still trying to get the meaning of the Ascendant. other than the physical appearance (which i see I can resonate with)

I still do not get more than that. happy to be enlightened

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posted December 29, 2016 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ASC = Personality, body.

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posted December 29, 2016 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ascendant is your instinctual automatic response to your environment and hence affects your personality and how you come off to others.

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posted January 01, 2017 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
The ascendant is your instinctual automatic response to your environment and hence affects your personality and how you come off to others.

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posted January 02, 2017 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
The ascendant is your instinctual automatic response to your environment and hence affects your personality and how you come off to others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oocunV4JX4w

This talks about how our automatic responses are the only part of us which we could possibly identify as our soul.

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posted January 02, 2017 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Your whole chart is your soul!

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posted January 02, 2017 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cinnamon sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think your whole chart is your soul, for me the soul is much more free and limitless than to be squeezed into a birth chart. But then again, what's the soul anyway.
I think the whole birth chart talks about our potential/ experiences/ energy focus while we are in the body in this existence. Regardless if I see this as the only existence or one of many, what "soul" means to me is more than it can be expressed through a single chart. Sure, it can work in harmony with the physical aspect, in this plane, but that's still just coming through in a filtered way.

But now I'm realising that there are so many possible interpretations of what "soul" is and I'm aiming here for a very distant one

This is why I don't feel like posting lately, until I get to the end I contradict myself in my head several times. Damn Libra progressed AC and rising.

But when, for example I was watching the videos of Ruth Hadikin, I felt I was really resonating with the Virgo rising video. She talks about the AC from the soul-perspective as well. But then I'm Virgo Sun also.

But when you listen to her, and it's about one sign, it doesn't sound restrictive anymore, because it's a whole archetypal story there. But if you take the whole chart, that makes everything zoom in too much and gets too specific and restricted, in my view. Too restricted for a free flowing soul.

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