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KoreAbyss
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posted December 27, 2016 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KoreAbyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Explain your sexual nature through those cusps and their rulers and aspects.

What do you find is true and what doesn't fit?

My 5th is in Leo and my 8th is right at the beginning of Sagittarius. Pluto in Scorpio is opposite both rulers which are conjunct in my 1st house of Taurus.

What would you guess my sexual nature is like?

I'll tell all and I'll try to guess yours if you're okay with sharing.

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posted December 27, 2016 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Gemini Mars is Rx so I am reluctant to talk about these matters but I will supervise carefully.

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posted December 27, 2016 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KoreAbyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awe c,mon, Faith! Play with me!

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posted December 27, 2016 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
K

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My 5th is in Leo and my 8th is right at the beginning of Sagittarius.

You're fun

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Pluto in Scorpio is opposite both rulers which are conjunct in my 1st house of Taurus.

But serious


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posted December 28, 2016 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in 8th and ruling the 8th

Sun rules 5th and conjunct Neptune.

I am mostly single.So I think Neptune conjunct the Sun(ruler of the 5th) is the winner here.As I don't mind not having anyone really as I am honest enough right now to admit that I really don't know what it is that I want from relationships.

Pluto in 8th,Venus in 8th and Saturn in 8th mostly work within- things that I may feel from time to time. But mostly I think I really am fine being on my own.

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posted December 28, 2016 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
5th cusp in Taurus, Venus in Capricorn in 1st house. no planets in 5th.

8th cusp in Cancer, Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house.
Saturn rx in Cancer in 8th house (as ruler of 2nd house), conjunct Vertex by 4 degrees.
Eros, Pan and Destinn also in Cancer conjunct Vertex, Eros and Pan are exact on the Vertex.
It`s also the degree of my far Sun/Moon-mp.


I am a prude.

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posted December 28, 2016 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for you Kore, I think, sexuality may be an integral part of your personal expression, but despite the cusps being in fiery houses, there is a very sensual, serious, grounded streak to your sexuality. I could imagine taste and smell is pretty important for you, and especially touching o other things you consider sensual.
With Pluto there is quite an intensity and passion, but possibly more in an internalized focused way.
though of course the Sag and Leo might play in, I don`t know how much they would though. The rulers are both in taurus, which is quite different in expression, so I am actually very curious to learn what expression is more fitting for you, the fiery enthusiastic temperamental fire-one, or the calmer, sensual one with a need for really sense and feel the other person.

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posted December 28, 2016 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW have you ever looked up the midpoints of your 5th and 8th house rulers or even the midpoints of the cusps? It`s just me playing around, but for me it is

5th/ 8th house cusp: 6°57 Gemini
(conjunct my DESC by 4 minutes. )


Moon rules my 8th and Venus my 5th, so my Moon/Venus-mp is the combo of these sexual houses for me

Moon/Venus: 26°36 Cap

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posted December 28, 2016 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bearee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fifth house ruler is Neptune. (No planets in 5th house).
Neptune is in Capricorn in the 3rd house, conjunct Uranus/NN and opposite Venus.

Eighth house ruler is Venus. (My Sun is in the 8th house).
Venus is in Cancer in the 9th house, opposite Uranus/Neptune/NN.

So my 5th house ruler is opposite my 8th house ruler.

I don't know how I am sexually though, because I've never had sex.

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posted December 28, 2016 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 5th is ruled by retro pluto and is located in 5th conjuncts jupitr,my 8th is in aquarius,has moon there and uranus is in 6th conjuncting neptune

I have no idea how to interprate it

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posted December 28, 2016 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never got the the hang of this.

But like, Ceridwen, 5th H is ruled by Taurus and 8th H ruled by Cancer.

But 5th H ruler Venus is in the 7th H opposite Saturn/Uranus.

8th has my Leo Sun/Mercury there and both square Pluto.

And Moon ruler of the 8th H is in Pisces in the 3rd H square Jupiter. (Still not sure how this plays out).

I didn't loose my virginity till I was 21 (never dated in HS), but I'm definitely not a prude, if I really like someone and feel a raw sexual attraction - I'll go for it.

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posted December 28, 2016 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart looks weird with the Placidus house system, but here are the signs in my 5th and 8th houses...
Ares/early Taurus in 5th house
Really late Gemini/Cancer/early Leo in 8th house

Aries (ruler of 5th house) - Mars in Aries in natal 4th house
Gemini (ruler of 8th house) - Mercury in Aries in natal 5th house

My Gemini Moon is within 15 minutes of being in 8th house, but its official placement is 7th house. I think it has more characteristics of being in 8th house than 7th. However, that doesn't mean my Moon doesn't still have its 7th house traits.

And my Venus has the same thing going for it. It's officially in 5th house, but it's within 25 minutes of being in 6th house. Again, I have characteristics of Venus in both 5th and 6th house.

Mercury and Mars don't conjunct, but my Gemini Moon squares my Mars in Aries, mostly because my Moon was preparing to enter Cancer when I was born and my Mars is only minutes into Aries.

I'm not sure if any of this says much about my sexual nature. Feel free to guess though.

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posted December 28, 2016 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lerena,

planets conjunct the cusps make themselves felt clearly, but of course they are still in the other house. Iīve come to interprete them as being in the house they are in, but as conjunct the next cusp, so they might be almost like a bridge from one to the next and connect two houses tightly with each other.

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posted December 30, 2016 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KoreAbyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 30, 2016 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KoreAbyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ditto

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posted December 30, 2016 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KoreAbyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
K

But serious


Hahaha but could I turn that back on you and be mostly correct? Hm? HMMMMMMM?!

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Pluto in 8th and ruling the 8th

Sun rules 5th and conjunct Neptune.

I am mostly single.So I think Neptune conjunct the Sun(ruler of the 5th) is the winner here.As I don't mind not having anyone really as I am honest enough right now to admit that I really don't know what it is that I want from relationships.

Pluto in 8th,Venus in 8th and Saturn in 8th mostly work within- things that I may feel from time to time. But mostly I think I really am fine being on my own.


I notice that people with heavy 8th influence go through periods of no sex at all. It's like the essence of extremes, going from hot and heavy to nothing. With Saturn there I'd expect a learning period like you say. The challenge of growing up wherever he's placed. In the past we'll have experienced a sort of naive acceptance of the way things are in our surroundings, accepting the authority of others but then Saturn shows up by a strong transit or progression and suddenly you don't want to accept anyone else's authority in whatever area Saturn is placed, you've gotta depend on yourself, your planning, your efforts. I hope you reach that summit and discover what you really want, intimacy wise.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
5th cusp in Taurus, Venus in Capricorn in 1st house. no planets in 5th.

8th cusp in Cancer, Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house.
Saturn rx in Cancer in 8th house (as ruler of 2nd house), conjunct Vertex by 4 degrees.
Eros, Pan and Destinn also in Cancer conjunct Vertex, Eros and Pan are exact on the Vertex.
It`s also the degree of my far Sun/Moon-mp.

I am a prude.


Are you sure you're a prude? Aquarius can be so higher minded that they act as if they don't want to involve themselves in baser instincts but they really do. Hm....wow that saturn retro ruling your 2nd house of what you do with your body. Maybe not so easy to let go because of possible insecure foundations? Or maybe it's the opposite, when everything is secure or too settled you lose interest in intimacy? And you have Pluto square that Venus. Hm...sexy public figures are your thing?

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As for you Kore, I think, sexuality may be an integral part of your personal expression, but despite the cusps being in fiery houses, there is a very sensual, serious, grounded streak to your sexuality. I could imagine taste and smell is pretty important for you, and especially touching o other things you consider sensual.
With Pluto there is quite an intensity and passion, but possibly more in an internalized focused way.
though of course the Sag and Leo might play in, I don`t know how much they would though. The rulers are both in taurus, which is quite different in expression, so I am actually very curious to learn what expression is more fitting for you, the fiery enthusiastic temperamental fire-one, or the calmer, sensual one with a need for really sense and feel the other person.

You're spot on! I am definitely super sensual, high sex drive but it has to be deep. My partner usually has to force me to let go, Taurus likes to decide when to move. BUT I also have a fiery and temperamental attitude when it comes to a partner. Mainly they annoy me by what I perceive as hiding. Their superficial body is in the way of their true self. And then they flaunt around in that pretty costume like I'm not supposed to want to tear them apart. I mean...c'mon!

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW have you ever looked up the midpoints of your 5th and 8th house rulers or even the midpoints of the cusps? It`s just me playing around, but for me it is

5th/ 8th house cusp: 6°57 Gemini
(conjunct my DESC by 4 minutes. )

Moon rules my 8th and Venus my 5th, so my Moon/Venus-mp is the combo of these sexual houses for me

Moon/Venus: 26°36 Cap


I haven't looked them up but your Moon/Venus mp is exactly on my Moon at 26 CAP! Hahaha

My 5th/8th mp is at 2 degrees Libra which is quite interesting since Uranus and Saturn square it. My Sun/Jupiter conjunction is squared by my Mars in Aqua lol! Capricorns and Aquarians are so hot! But who can deny it. Tall dark strangers of the world keep us all enthralled.

Oh and because I'm looking at your chart, your Moon and Lilith are surrounding my Mars. EEP!

Lots of typing. I'll be back for more soon!

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posted December 31, 2016 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RogueReader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooooh oooh ooh! I love this kind of talk. I have Aquarius Sun in the 5th house and Gemini Mars in the 8th house. I also have the following aspects: Sun square Pluto (2H/Scorpio), Mercury (4H/Aquarius) trine Mars, Mars trine Ascendant (Libra), Mars trine Saturn (4H/Aquarius), Mars sextile Retrograde Jupiter (10H/Leo).

I would definitely say I'm a certifiable freak with S&M leanings, but in an understated way until..the games begins, so to speak . Although in my mid-twenties and a virgin (many people find this shocking), I have a high libido and "sex positive" outlook. I also have a way with words, which serves both my partners and myself well during intimate moments. I came from a rather strict household but was always intellectually curious about sex, so I "studied up" (w/ books, internet, point-blank questions, etc.) where I could and still have an encyclopedic amount of knowledge on the topic. Hoping to put all that knowledge to good use with my "fated partner" (stereotypical Pisces Venus).

That's all that comes to mind at the moment. Anything striking that I missed or any tips? I'm still novice at astrology, so additional info always welcomed <3.

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posted December 31, 2016 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RogueReader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
My Gemini Mars is Rx so I am reluctant to talk about these matters but I will supervise carefully.


This had me in stitches! As a fellow Gemini Mars, I can empathize with your desire to supervise the conversation... for science! And maybe a little morbid curiosity?

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posted December 31, 2016 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kore,

"Are you sure you're a prude?"
No, this was just tongue-in-cheek.

WEll, I`ve been living the life of a nun, but not because of a certain philosophical mindset or out of disinterest.
Physical intimacy and even closeness (without the sexual connotation) has always been a challenge to me as it is a source of insecurity and makes me faces my insecurities in this regard; and when I was pretty young (when other kids started to experiment) I pretty much withdrew in my shell and went for the avoidance mode, perceiving myself in a lot of roles (daughter, sister, best friend, colleague etc.) and also perceiving myself mainly as an intellectual being and making sure anyone else saw me that way, too. A Mind on legs, even a soul on legs (I was okay with the soul-stuff, you donīt have to bring the body into it. ).


"Maybe not so easy to let go because of possible insecure foundations? "
Yes, that is absolutely it.

I`ve hated being perceived as cute or pretty or even sexy when being younger, so I became wildly obese, to become physically invisible I think. disconnecting my body from my soul and heart, until neither understood the language of the other anymore.

Avoidance mode to a stubborn extreme.

It "worked" fairly well, until I met Mr Sag. LOL
Not that he jumped me or something like that, but from the first time we met he refused to pretend I was being invisible and worse than that apparently refused to see me in only intellectual terms and obviously saw me - to my utmost shock - as a woman. Just generally speaking here, we are not talking about a passionate torrid affair. Just the way he was looking at me has always felt... different, though I neither could define what was so different nor could I accept that my perception might be true.
Still I felt extremely visible to him but weirdly appreciated, even though I could not appreciate myself.
And boy, yes I DID punish him for sort of forcing me to look at myself from a ... different perspective. I had not built my defenses so high and perfected them over the years for someone just basically flow through them like they were nothing.

He pretty much did not notice that he did pervade my defenses though, at least not when we first met.
But it was catalystic this meeting, I think. I mean it took many years until things really changed for me.

But by now Iīve lost over 50 kilos of weight, can look in a mirror and actually feel truely okay with what I see, on some days I even think I am looking rather pretty (and doesn`t feel like it is a crime to admit that. lol) though of course I absolutely still see my physical flaws and have those deep seated insecurities.

BUT I`ve also made the pact with myself to not avoid something just out of insecurity or fear anymore, Iīve done that enough in the first part of my life. That is a luxury I do not allow myself anymore.

Which is why I was attending that workshop on singing 2 weeks ago, even though the thought had me paralysed with fear (it is not only about the sexual intimacy of the 8th house for me, but for expanding my comfort zone now and then in other ways as well, usually including other people though).


And apparently I`ve stopped being "untouchable", as people seem to like to touch me or hug me recently. But then again I feel much more comfortable and even good about it nowadays than I`ve ever done in my life before.


It`s a pretty good development, even though it should have been taken place at least 15 years ago.

In a way Mr Sag had a tremendous influence on this, cause not even I could ignore how appreciative he sometimes is of my appearance, lookwise but I guess also the whole way I am in public.
I still do not understand why, not really, but well as I said even I could not ignore that anylonger. lol

I find it actually quite fitting that his Venus is on 25°55 Cap in my 2nd house and right on my Moon/Venus-mp.


But yeah I think the ruler of 2nd house in 8th house on the Cap-Cancer-axis for me makes a lot of sense. Especially the shell-behaviour that is totally me. lol


"And you have Pluto square that Venus. Hm...sexy public figures are your thing?"
No, not really. lol
Or letīs say I might have a different opinion on what I consider sexy than the media wants me to have.

"You're spot on!"
Cool.

" I am definitely super sensual, high sex drive but it has to be deep. My partner usually has to force me to let go, Taurus likes to decide when to move."
I absolutely can relate to that as well. But hey my 5th house cusp is in Taurus, I suppose that makes itself known a little, too.



"I haven't looked them up but your Moon/Venus mp is exactly on my Moon at 26 CAP! Hahaha"
LOL


"My 5th/8th mp is at 2 degrees Libra which is quite interesting since Uranus and Saturn square it."
Sounds like push and pull. Yes and no. Freedom vs security etc. the need to balance opposites


" My Sun/Jupiter conjunction is squared by my Mars in"
Cappys I agree with, Aquas not so much. lol

"Oh and because I'm looking at your chart, your Moon and Lilith are surrounding my Mars. EEP! "
Oh so you have Aqua-Mars?
But yes LIlith is a big thing for me.


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posted January 01, 2017 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikindalikecookies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
5th in Aries, 8th in Cancer

Mars in Aries in the 4th conjunct a stellium of Sun, Mercury,and Saturn, and trines my Pluto in the 12th.

Moon in Cancer in the 7th squares my stellium above including my Mars. Also inconjuncts my Pluto

I can get pretty intense sexually and even more emotionally. As far as I could tell. Not really sure if there are other interpretations for this.

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posted January 02, 2017 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
KoreAbyss;

I notice that people with heavy 8th influence go through periods of no sex at all. It's like the essence of extremes, going from hot and heavy to nothing. With Saturn there I'd expect a learning period like you say. The challenge of growing up wherever he's placed. In the past we'll have experienced a sort of naive acceptance of the way things are in our surroundings, accepting the authority of others but then Saturn shows up by a strong transit or progression and suddenly you don't want to accept anyone else's authority in whatever area Saturn is placed, you've gotta depend on yourself, your planning, your efforts. I hope you reach that summit and discover what you really want, intimacy wise.

Right you are. I think the only time I have lots of sex is when I am in a relationship. Well,at-least some temporary adhoc creation of it

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posted January 02, 2017 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raindancer88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KoreAbyss:
Explain your sexual nature through those cusps and their rulers and aspects.

What do you find is true and what doesn't fit?

My 5th is in Leo and my 8th is right at the beginning of Sagittarius. Pluto in Scorpio is opposite both rulers which are conjunct in my 1st house of Taurus.

What would you guess my sexual nature is like?

I'll tell all and I'll try to guess yours if you're okay with sharing.



I'd guess you're playful but only when there is a deep meaningful connection. You have good placements for passionate encounters

I have Sag sun&Merc 5th house w/ Scorpio ruling my 5th/ Empty 8th Aqua Ruling. Scorpio Venus conjunct Pluto 4th.

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posted January 02, 2017 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KoreAbyss:
Explain your sexual nature through those cusps and their rulers and aspects.

What do you find is true and what doesn't fit?

My 5th is in Leo and my 8th is right at the beginning of Sagittarius. Pluto in Scorpio is opposite both rulers which are conjunct in my 1st house of Taurus.


What would you guess my sexual nature is like?

I'll tell all and I'll try to guess yours if you're okay with sharing.


I think you could be like a sexual guru or something:P You really enjoy the game, the thrill, the everything... long nights with intense eyecontact, candlelight and romantic stuff... but also wild and crazy ^^


My 5th house is in Libra, and I also got venus in the 5th (conjunct pluto in scorpio)
My 8th house is in Aquarius, and the ruler of Uranus is in the 6th, and uranus is in capricorn

Oh and forgot the aspects: Venus trine jupiter, sextile saturn, neptune, uranus and conjunct pluto.
Uranus square Moon and Mars, conjunct neptune and saturn and opposite jupiter, sextile pluto

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Cancer on the 5th House Cusp, Aries Moon in the 1st House (5th Lord in the 1st House). Fun and confidence are my methods of unintentional seduction, though I only capitalize on the energy when there's an emotional connection/trust (otherwise I'd have to be drunk, but that was only one time lol).

1st House Ruler Aspects:
Moon Trine Leo Sun (5 degrees)
Moon Sesqui-Quadrate Sagittarius Pluto (2 degrees)
Moon Sesqui-Quadrate Virgo Mercury (1 degree)
Moon Sesqui-Quadrate Sagittarius Ceres (0 degrees)
Moon Inconjunct Scorpio Vesta (1 degree)
Moon Conjunct Aries Juno (1 degree)
Moon Opposite Libra Chiron (6 degrees)
Moon Quintile Aquarius Uranus (3 degrees)
Moon Quintile Gemini Venus (2 degrees)

Also, I have Lilith conjunct Part of Fortune (exactly 1 degree orb) in my 5th House. Anyone have any ideas as to what this means? Am I supposed to become a porn star or what?

Beyond that I have Scorpio on the 8th House Cusp, and Sagittarius Pluto in the 8th House (8th Lord in the 8th House).

I'm not entirely sure what this means. I've read descriptions that say I will have a very long life and attain material success, perhaps even marry into a very wealthy family, but I haven't found anything that describes the sexual nature of this placement. Sagittarius Pluto is in an exact Bi-Quintile to my Cancer Mars (off by one minute). Three of the women I've had sex with have said I'm the best, with two of those three women saying "you're my god" more than once during intercourse. By the way, I'm 20 years of age and the last women who said that is about to turn 26 years of age. The rest of the women have all responded during intercourse with immense pleasure (except one, though she has Saturn in the 8th House).

8th House Ruler Aspects:
Pluto Trine Aries Ascendant (1 degree)
Pluto Trine Aries Saturn (7 degrees)
Pluto Sextile Aquarius Uranus (2 degrees)
Pluto Sextile Capricorn Neptune (4 degrees)
Pluto Tri-Septile Gemini Venus (1 degree)
Pluto Conjunct Sagittarius Ceres (2 degrees)
Pluto Square Virgo Mercury (3 degrees)
Pluto Semi-Sextile Capricorn MC (0 degrees)

I would love to hear your thoughts and insights as to what's going on here

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posted January 03, 2017 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KoreAbyss:
Explain your sexual nature through those cusps and their rulers and aspects.

What do you find is true and what doesn't fit?

My 5th is in Leo and my 8th is right at the beginning of Sagittarius. Pluto in Scorpio is opposite both rulers which are conjunct in my 1st house of Taurus.

What would you guess my sexual nature is like?

I'll tell all and I'll try to guess yours if you're okay with sharing.


Interesting, KoreAbyss. I think we have a similar pattern, since I'm also a Taurus ascendant, 5th house in Leo and 8th house in Saggi. But my 5th ruler is in the 5th and my 8th ruler is in the 11th. My Scorpio Pluto is also opposite my ascendant.

I would say you are a pretty optimistic and cheerful person. You probably enjoy a lively, playful relationship, and you are attracted to charismatic men who are fun and make you laugh.

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