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Topic: Rectify birth chart advice please?
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mztiny Knowflake Posts: 606 From: Alexandria, VA Registered: Jan 2014
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posted December 28, 2016 07:19 PM
I have exhausted all avenues to find my mother's birth time. Nothing on birth certificate, nothing in hospital records, nothing in county court records, friends, family....nothing!Can anyone suggest someone to do the rectification for me or tell me the process so that I can do this myself. Anything will help Thank you kindly
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Nine Moderator Posts: 2851 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 28, 2016 07:57 PM
The Asc, based off the birth time, is an attractor. Chances are high she has an Asc conj Sun relationship with one of her close friends.Look at her synastries. All the progressed planets are attracted to the nSun, including the pSun. Once you have an idea of what you think her nAsc might be, progress it to match her current age, a day for a year method, THAT corresponding degree will most certainly be in conjunction with the nSun of a person in her life. Give or take 2°. Eg. If her pAsc is 25° Libra. Libras born close to the cusp of Scorpio will start popping up in her life around this time. IP: Logged |
mztiny Knowflake Posts: 606 From: Alexandria, VA Registered: Jan 2014
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posted December 28, 2016 08:14 PM
Ooo.....Thank you!I will work on this IP: Logged |
mztiny Knowflake Posts: 606 From: Alexandria, VA Registered: Jan 2014
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posted December 28, 2016 09:08 PM
Hi NINE your advice has helped!I found her best friend's sun and my father's moon at the same sign/degree as what I think my mother's ascendant is! Plus my sister in law's prog sun is conjunct my mother's prog ascendant and they are pretty tight. My father and her have been married for 51yrs...they are best friends. Thank you! IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1682 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted December 28, 2016 10:56 PM
Nine, what if your recorded ascendant does not match ANY same sign suns in a person's life?? is that unusual?IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2851 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 29, 2016 12:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by mztiny: Hi NINE your advice has helped!I found her best friend's sun and my father's moon at the same sign/degree as what I think my mother's ascendant is! Plus my sister in law's prog sun is conjunct my mother's prog ascendant and they are pretty tight. My father and her have been married for 51yrs...they are best friends. Thank you!
Glad I could help.
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Nine Moderator Posts: 2851 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 29, 2016 12:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: Nine, what if your recorded ascendant does not match ANY same sign suns in a person's life?? is that unusual?
I didn't get that. ?? IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1682 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted December 29, 2016 03:46 AM
ok like, my birth time on my certificate relates to Scorpio nASC and in my close relationships, NONE are Scorpio suns. pASC is end of Sag.My rectified nASC is Leo and NONE are Leo suns. However pASC is early Libra. Most of my closest friends are Aries suns and I met my now BFF when my pASC would have been exactly opposite her nSUN. So I'm confused and not sure this theory works in my case? IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2851 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 29, 2016 09:40 AM
For establishing a relationship look at the pMoon of the other person. pMoon to nSun or nAsc. Where was your new BFFs pMoon when you started hanging out? Assuming it wasn't your pMoon making aspect to their Sun/Asc. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5730 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 29, 2016 10:24 AM
It's super challenging to rectify a chart that is not your own imo but the best way to do it is to pay very close attention to transits and to the angles in the context of synastry, we tend to really love people that conjunct our angles very deeply.IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1682 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted December 29, 2016 04:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: For establishing a relationship look at the pMoon of the other person. pMoon to nSun or nAsc. Where was your new BFFs pMoon when you started hanging out? Assuming it wasn't your pMoon making aspect to their Sun/Asc.
Her pMOON was in mid virgo when we started hanging out which was around my pVENUS. My pMOON was in mid cap conjunct her pASC! Another close friend's pMOON was in mid virgo too when we started hanging out. So, what does this show about my nASC though? IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2851 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 29, 2016 05:03 PM
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It's super challenging to rectify a chart that is not your own imo but the best way to do it is to pay very close attention to transits and to the angles in the context of synastry, we tend to really love people that conjunct our angles very deeply.
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Nine Moderator Posts: 2851 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 29, 2016 05:03 PM
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Her pMOON was in mid virgo when we started hanging out which was around my pVENUS. My pMOON was in mid cap conjunct her pASC!Another close friend's pMOON was in mid virgo too when we started hanging out. So, what does this show about my nASC though?
That's it!! 1. Start with your listed birth time. Does its progressed position correspond with the people in your life, and the people you've met through the years as it (pAsc) moved through the degrees. 2. Look at your relationships. Start at the beginning. List five synastries, look to see which sign pops up repeatedly. There will be instances where you're the moon person. This method should help ferret out your nAsc. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2557 From: Curdle Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 29, 2016 05:09 PM
it probably often makes sense once you find someones asc out, like for example adam sandler always reminded me of a quirkey kind of communicative of his thoughts funny guy, and then i find out he's likely an aqua ascendant, and then it makes sense, if you think of the asc as the 'character' then it makes sense that someone is a certain character. for example, a positive sign asc is goofy and loud and obnoxious. so that can help narrow down your mothers. a negative sign is more reserved, they take information in, they delicately consider it somewhat, and are more passive, while a positive sign is more goofy. a fire asc will come off as a big like melting person with enthusiasm. like ''aahh i oughtta slap you!'' while an air asc would come off as more perhaps egotistical with how smart they feel, they will smirk at their own intelligence so if you really get a feel of a certain character your mom has, which sign might it be. some examples: charlie sheen does he seem kind of like his character is a gemini? cause he is gemini rising. he does kind of fun and intelligent and witty and even smart-alecy. tom cruise: scorpio. kind of emotional and "gets close to your inner world, touches you" when he stares in a person. bruce lee: sag. dedication to finding the ultimate fighting and work outs. and best method of jumping high and training for it.
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soren Knowflake Posts: 2557 From: Curdle Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 29, 2016 05:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: That's it!!1. Start with your listed birth time. Does its progressed position correspond with the people in your life, and the people you've met through the years as it (pAsc) moved through the degrees. 2. Look at your relationships. Start at the beginning. List five synastries, look to see which sign pops up repeatedly. There will be instances where you're the moon person. This method should help ferret out your nAsc.
For me me and my 2 closest friends all had same moon sign(scorp), my other close friend had the opposite moon sign. while my p. asc was in a positive sign as well with my sun, all my close friends (7-8) were ALL positive signs, except no aries or sag. but leo (opposite my sun) for 1 or 2 (cusp), and only 1 aqua, the rest libras and gems. Now that my P.sun is in 12th i love negative signs IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2851 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 29, 2016 06:16 PM
^^interesting, that.IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1682 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted December 30, 2016 03:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: That's it!!1. Start with your listed birth time. Does its progressed position correspond with the people in your life, and the people you've met through the years as it (pAsc) moved through the degrees. 2. Look at your relationships. Start at the beginning. List five synastries, look to see which sign pops up repeatedly. There will be instances where you're the moon person. This method should help ferret out your nAsc.
I'm onto it! start at the beginning meaning when we first met? IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20632 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 30, 2016 11:48 AM
I look at draconic charts and notice patterns there. For instance, I have a Pisces moon and my daughter has a draconic Pisces moon. My mother's moon is either Virgo or Libra; in draconic, it's either Aqua or Pisces. I'm inclined to think it's Pisces, because of the patterning. Additionally, I'm a Cap sun tightly quincunx Gemini Mars. My mother's draconic chart has the same thing: Cap sun tightly quincunx Gem Mars. So wouldn't it also make sense that her draconic moon is in the same sign as my moon? It's just something I am considering along with other things. The chart facts accumulate to make the estimation seem to carry more and more weight. IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2851 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 30, 2016 06:14 PM
quote: I'm onto it! start at the beginning meaning when we first met?
Correct. The first moments you started hanging around each other. ETA: Conjunctions only, when looking at strangers coming together to form a relationship. This, because the conjunction aspect is the only aspect where two planets are together. The other aspects will add flavor to the relationship, but it's the conjunction that's responsible for forming a union. IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2851 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 30, 2016 06:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: I look at draconic charts and notice patterns there. For instance, I have a Pisces moon and my daughter has a draconic Pisces moon. My mother's moon is either Virgo or Libra; in draconic, it's either Aqua or Pisces. I'm inclined to think it's Pisces, because of the patterning. Additionally, I'm a Cap sun tightly quincunx Gemini Mars. My mother's draconic chart has the same thing: Cap sun tightly quincunx Gem Mars. So wouldn't it also make sense that her draconic moon is in the same sign as my moon? It's just something I am considering along with other things. The chart facts accumulate to make the estimation seem to carry more and more weight.
??? Is that bit for this thread??
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 20632 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 30, 2016 06:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: ???Is that bit for this thread??
Yes Trying to present the validity of draconic charts by using my mother and I as an example, first of all. Then, my advice is: Look at the family and notice if there are any patterns. Some days, the moon switches signs. The draconic chart may help with process of elimination, in deciding which moon sign. In turn, this narrows the possibilities for ASC. THEN we try and narrow it down further. It's fine to say the ASC will be conjunct others' planets, but we all know tons of people, and I feel that more indicators are needed. Draconic may supply more of those indicators. IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2851 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 30, 2016 08:37 PM
Okay. Cool.IP: Logged |