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Topic: Marriage aspects in the progressions
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 6204 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted December 31, 2016 12:34 AM
I found this text in my old notes. I dont know where I found this from but looks detailed. I thought some of you might be interested.For the married ones, do you confirm the validity of these aspects? Here are the results of the study of two hundred charts progressed to the date of marriage. I asked ten questions of each chart and this page is the tally of the answers.The questions were put together from various sources. Both old and modern astrologers, as well as my own ideas, contributed to this compilation of questions, teaching how to see and predict a marriage from the progressed chart. I was interested in seeing solid clear results of astrology's ability to predict and understand this very important time in a person's life. After completion I have even more questions regarding fate, soulmates and regarding the inevitable coming together of lovers under the stars of their birth. Note- in all charts I use only the major aspects (conjunction, square, opposition, trine and sextile), and small orbs. 1. Does the natal or progressed ascendant ruler aspect the natal or progressed descendant ruler? 145 yes answers (73%) show a likelihood of finding this in an individual's progressed chart at the time of marriage. Also 86 charts (43%) had more than one aspect, having up to 6 different aspects, that showed this connection between the first house and the seventh house rulers. The charts that did not have this often had an aspect between a planet in one of these houses, or between one of the planets in the house and the ruler of the other house or some other significant connection. Here's how to find the relevant planets: The natal ascendant ruler is the planet that rules the sign found on the ascendant. So if you have an Aries ascendant the planet that is the natal ascendant ruler is mars. In the same example the planet that is the natal descendant ruler is venus, through it's rulership of Libra which would be found on the seventh house cusp. The progressed ascendant ruler only applies if over time the ascendant has progressed into the next sign. Then one can compare the progressed ascendant ruler to the natal descendant ruler, and the natal ascendant ruler to the progressed descendant. A lot to keep in mind, huh? 2. Does the progressed asc/des aspect the natal descendant ruler?
49 charts (25%) had a yes answer to this question. 3. Does the progressed moon conjunct an angle of the progressed or natal chart? 124 charts (62%) had a yes answer to this question. The breakdown of which angle is as follows, in order of frequency: ascendant-36 charts the descendant-33 charts the mid heaven- 32 charts the nadir- 23 charts The progressed moon is very important factor in reading the progressed chart. It's cycle around the chart is completed in 28 years, moving at the approximate rate of one degree every month of life. Once it conjuncts one of the angles of the chart then every seven years it will conjunct one of them. I also used the changing progressed angles, which would happen shortly after the conjunction to the natal angles. This is a factor to watch in regards to relationships, as well as many important events in a person's life. As an example of the seven year cycle Abbie Hoffman comes to mind. He had three different significant relationships in his life all being cemented at the time of the progressed moon conjuncting a different angle, every seven years. 4. Does the progressed or natal sun, moon, venus, or mars aspect an angle of the progressed or natal chart? there were 194 charts (97%) that had a yes answer to this question. This is quite common and occurs at many other times besides marriage. Almost half (332 aspects) of the aspects recorded in this section were conjunctions between one of these planets and the angles. The kind of aspect and the planet and angle involved are outlined on an other page. 5. Does the planet in the seventh house, if any, receive aspects in the progressed chart? There were 85 yes answers to this question. As only 103 charts had a planet in the seventh house most did have this indication. 18 charts did have a planet there and it did not receive a major aspect. (83% yes) 6.-10. Involve the frequency of aspects between the personal planets - sun, moon, venus, and mars. 6. sun and mars any aspect -78 yes answers (39%) 7. sun and venus any aspect - 73 yes answers (37%) 8. venus and mars any aspect -105 yes answers (53%) 9. moon and mars any aspect - 100 yes answers (50%) 10. moon and venus any aspect - 111 yes answers (56%) 70 charts had more than one aspect for each question. The most common aspect showing up between these planets was the conjunction of the progressed sun to natal venus. Following that was the conjunction of the progressed venus to the natal sun. 24% of the charts had one of these aspects. The next most common pair was the moon and venus found in trine, followed by venus being in trine to mars. The least common was venus and the sun being found in opposition. There weren't any charts that had this aspect in the study. Next was mars and venus found in opposition, and also sun and mars found in opposition. Only one chart out of two hundred had each of these. IP: Logged |
Ari-Sco Knowflake Posts: 84 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted December 31, 2016 04:29 AM
what if Psun semi-sextile NsunPvenus semi-sextile Nvenus Psun semi-sextile Nvenus Pvenus semi-sextile Nsun Pvenus and Psun in natal 7th house Pvenus semi-sextile Nmars Pvenus semi-sextile Pmars and the natal chart ruler is venus and the descendant ruler is mars and Pmoon trines natal MC Do you ever use semi-sextile for this ? IP: Logged |
DannyCappy Knowflake Posts: 402 From: Registered: Jan 2016
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posted December 31, 2016 07:45 AM
It is only conjunctions?IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 6204 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted December 31, 2016 04:42 PM
it says the ptolemaic aspects, you know, the regulars - conj, trine, opposition, square, sextilleIP: Logged |
Beautiful_Light Knowflake Posts: 88 From: Registered: Nov 2016
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posted December 31, 2016 07:55 PM
Ohh this is cool. My asc ruler Venus is already conjunct my desc ruler Mars and will be inching closer and closer. Jupiter is also conjunct to them and Juno will be retrograding back to IC. Thanks!IP: Logged |
DannyCappy Knowflake Posts: 402 From: Registered: Jan 2016
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posted December 31, 2016 10:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: it says the ptolemaic aspects, you know, the regulars - conj, trine, opposition, square, sextille
Thanks!! IP: Logged |
Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 1299 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted December 31, 2016 10:43 PM
The only significant aspect I think will have soon (not so soon lol) is in the 2019,almost 2020.Progressed moon in conjunction to natal ASC.The SR for the year isn't great though.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20754 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 31, 2016 11:28 PM
Please don't quote7 Aqua, my natal DSC, if my chart is correct 8 Aqua, husband's pr DSC when we got married 9 Leo, his pr Uranus when we got married 9 Aqua, my pr sun when we got married 9 Aqua, tr Uranus when we got engaged after one date Got married five months later, but by then Uranus had moved beyond our angles and my pr sun. IP: Logged |
Beautiful_Light Knowflake Posts: 88 From: Registered: Nov 2016
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posted December 31, 2016 11:37 PM
Faith - Engaged after 1 date! Was it arranged?IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20754 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 31, 2016 11:49 PM
No, just crazy stuff.Transiting sun was conjunct my Uranus @ 6 Scorpio, squaring all that. I had known him for about six months, had a crush for two months before he finally asked me out. Then, I don't know WHAT he was thinking and obviously I was just plain nuts. Transiting Uranus conjunct my progressed sun in Aquarius conjunct my DSC. I don't know what else to say, it just felt like something we had to do, and were going to do, and did. Please don't quote IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20754 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 31, 2016 11:54 PM
True story:17.56 Virgo, his progressed sun @ wedding 17.56 Virgo, my progressed Juno @ wedding Also at that time: 26 Libra, his progressed Venus 26 Libra, his progressed IC 26 Libra, my natal rectified IC 26 Libra, our composite sun I didn't know real astrology back then and none of this was intentional. IP: Logged |
Beautiful_Light Knowflake Posts: 88 From: Registered: Nov 2016
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posted December 31, 2016 11:56 PM
Ah... that Uranus . And true love . I love when transits and aspects are accurate like that!IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20754 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 01, 2017 12:46 AM
^ Me too, I love the accuracy!Yes, love...or infatuation/obsession at that time but also a sense of destiny and inevitability. IP: Logged |
Beautiful_Light Knowflake Posts: 88 From: Registered: Nov 2016
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posted January 01, 2017 03:28 AM
Destiny and inevitability... I also like that! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30484 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 01, 2017 08:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Please don't quote7 Aqua, my natal DSC, if my chart is correct 8 Aqua, husband's pr DSC when we got married 9 Leo, his pr Uranus when we got married 9 Aqua, my pr sun when we got married 9 Aqua, tr Uranus when we got engaged after one date Got married five months later, but by then Uranus had moved beyond our angles and my pr sun.
Of course that doesn`t tell us about your individual marriage progression that time, but it makes abundantly clear that you were marrying EACH OTHER: IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30484 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 01, 2017 08:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: True story:17.56 Virgo, his progressed sun @ wedding 17.56 Virgo, my progressed Juno @ wedding Also at that time: 26 Libra, his progressed Venus 26 Libra, his progressed IC 26 Libra, my natal rectified IC 26 Libra, our composite sun I didn't know real astrology back then and none of this was intentional.
This is just so amazing, I never get tired marvelling at looking at this!
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 20754 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 01, 2017 12:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Of course that doesn`t tell us about your individual marriage progression that time, but it makes abundantly clear that you were marrying EACH OTHER:
My progressed Aqua sun = my natal DSC = his pr DSC = transiting Uranus when we got engaged All this opposing his natal sun-Uranus conjunction, squaring my Uranus. Yeah we were totally up to mischief. Also, if my chart is right, I had a pr IC-NN conjunction when I got married: 18.12 Scorpio pr NN 19.31 Scorpio pr IC 20.00 Scorpio NN 21.38 Leo tr NN IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20754 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 01, 2017 12:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: This is just so amazing, I never get tired marvelling at looking at this!
The sun-Juno thing is sooooooo weird. I have checked it several times because I cannot believe my eyes. I checked it again last night before posting. It's true. IP: Logged |
Beautiful_Light Knowflake Posts: 88 From: Registered: Nov 2016
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posted January 01, 2017 06:46 PM
Progressions are interesting. I'm not quite sure how to use them yet. I've been using Solar Returns and I heard it's unfavorable for relationships for a planet like Uranus to be in SR 7th house.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30484 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 02, 2017 09:03 AM
Sun-Juno just sounds really great for a marriage to take place. I am never going to have that though. lol I did - interestingly enough have - pJupiter conjunct n Juno on 16°58 Pisces exact, when I first met P. Of course we are not married, but still found that kinda funny. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30484 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 02, 2017 09:04 AM
Nah, Uranus does not need to be unfavourable in SR 7th house, just means there will be change and possibly surprising one. That is really all it sais. Sudden surprising relationship developments and/ or meeting people in surprising ways, maybe highly Uranian people etc. IP: Logged |
DannyCappy Knowflake Posts: 402 From: Registered: Jan 2016
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posted January 02, 2017 09:07 AM
What about uranus in 10H or 4H Ceridwen what do you think?what happens?IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 6204 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted January 02, 2017 09:09 AM
Faith,was your progressed Juno near your natal JUno and was there anything happening when his progressed Sun conjunct your natal Juno ( not the progressed Juno) if you knew each other at that time. i just checked our progressions with my lunatic and his prog Sun was conjunct my natal Juno when we met, and then his prog Sun will conjunct my progressed Juno in about 3 years from now. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30484 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 02, 2017 10:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by DannyCappy: What about uranus in 10H or 4H Ceridwen what do you think?what happens?
Changes/ sudden developments in your social status or work/ career or your homebasis/ family life. Could mean a lot of things, depending on aspects to Uranus. Marriage/ divorce a new phase in a career or even marriage birth of a baby promotion or loss of job getting suddenly famous chaos and disruption in the family life a move shakin up of your roots and foundations to jolt you into a happier life etc. etc. IP: Logged |
DannyCappy Knowflake Posts: 402 From: Registered: Jan 2016
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posted January 02, 2017 10:11 AM
Wow so many options.Thanks a lot for the answer Ceriwen! I get confused when I read big explanations about SR but you were straight to the point.I love it.IP: Logged |