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Topic: @Soren AC Challenge
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5791 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 31, 2016 11:27 AM
Hi, I don't have the birth time of this person but have my suspicions of what his AC may be and was wondering what you think. Thank you Pic edited out. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2618 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 31, 2016 11:34 AM
at first i thought virgo reminded me of them but actually seems to fit more with positive signs, most likely not cardinal, and surprisingly has a pretty fixed glance. leo stuck out more , perhaps likely gemini as well, but i still will try to verify use the tooli am trying to figure out between taurus and aqua for him, but he probably has something in virgo/pisces well im still checking through all 12 IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2618 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 31, 2016 12:21 PM
ok the flashy tool said taurus or pisces but i was thinking maybe aqua (just to be safe). but mostly strong for taurus & pisces but he doesnt seem like a taurus to me, and now that i looked at him with pisceans he is pretty similar. probably not aqua but leave it in there to be safe. Bump for Gw/tRS i think its 1 of those 3 i'm gonna keep checking between them. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5791 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 31, 2016 12:26 PM
He has moon in Virgo and mercury, venus and Jupiter in Aquarius . Knowing that what are your top 3? Would you still consider his AC is in Aquarius? With Leo on the AC he would have Pluto in the 1H. I would add that he looks serious in this pic but he is not, he smiles a lot and is very positive. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2618 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 31, 2016 12:35 PM
well by comparing him right with some i felt:definitely not aries rising maybe taurus rising but not sure maybe gemini now that i rethink not leo i dont think now not really virgo maybe libra not scorp not sag not really cap very much but a lil not aqua now that he looks almost identical to pisces riser yes i am sure he is a pisces riser. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5791 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 31, 2016 12:42 PM
I agree that I don't think he is a Taurus based on his personality, I don't see it. I suspect Leo but I see what you mean about Pisces or Aquarius but with all the Aquarius in his chart odds are he does not also have AC in Aquarius which leads us to the top two been Leo and Pisces. He doesn't have anything in Pisces so if you see Pisces then maybe it's that. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5791 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 31, 2016 12:48 PM
He has sun in Capricorn, Moon and Saturn in Virgo, mercury, venus and Jupiter in Aquarius, Mars and Neptune in libra not conjuncting, Pluto in Leo, Uranus in cancer. Pisces riser is your guess, thank you!!! Really appreciate it Soren IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2618 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 31, 2016 12:48 PM
hm well usually when they have moon or sun in say scorpio, not only scorpio they seem similar to but both taurus and scorpio rising, this is because scorpio dsc imo is equal in strength so they have that energy in them. that's how it often is that both sides of the horizon energy will stick out. if they have a palcement. anyway yeah virgo for the tthing doesnt stick out when it should. try comparing him to some pisceans. for the other thread that a guy asked about a girl i thought virog but then turned out probly pisces. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2618 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 31, 2016 12:51 PM
and well look here http://gifmaker.cc/PlayGIFAnimation.php?folder=2016123104ZJkSanDkMayAvm15cvgq4K&file=output_KTJwgC.gif they come in sets of 2 from the beginning 2 aries-> 2 taurus then wraps around at each row start of next row is 2 leo. look at the ones flashing at the end. seem different then all the rest, no? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5791 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 31, 2016 12:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: and well look here http://gifmaker.cc/PlayGIFAnimation.php?folder=2016123104ZJkSanDkMayAvm1 5cvgq4K&file=output_KTJwgC.gif they come in sets of 2 from the beginning 2 aries-> 2 taurus then wraps around at each row start of next row is 2 leo. look at the ones flashing at the end. seem different then all the rest, no?
What ascendants are the last row?? I feel he matches some of the faces in the last row maybe, I am bad at this stuff. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2618 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 31, 2016 12:58 PM
2 sag, 2 cap, 2 aqua, 2 pisces. he blends well with the 2nd sag but i think they have the same sun or sun house or something. that's why there is 2 to compare with. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5791 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 31, 2016 01:02 PM
LMAO my partner just said that the picture of my dad that I posted makes him look like a cop hahahhahahabut my partner knows him now and that image of him does not fit him now. I would say even as I child I dont remember him like this. He is very warm, friendly and positive but everyone tells me when he was young he was intense and trouble which totally does not fit him now and the dad I know, he had a big transformation at some point it sounds like in his personality. They said after he studied psychology he calmed down. I should post a more recent pic and you tell me what you think, pisces would fit probably still but maybe you will change your mind and lean towards another sign more. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2618 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 31, 2016 01:03 PM
well i'm sure he will be different its up to you i dont think it changes much (asc persona)IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5791 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 31, 2016 01:09 PM
My guess is Leo in the second decan of jupiter with pluto in the 1H based on his personality and what I know about him but I will also consider pisces and see how the rest of his chart looks with pisces rising.IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5791 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 31, 2016 01:13 PM
with Leo rising, his IC would be Scorpio and DC Aquarius and IC in scorpio with DC in Aquarius fits how his family viewed him growing up. It would also explain why you picked up Taurus as it would put Taurus on his MC.You mentioned Leo at first and Taurus and Aquarius and with Leo rising all those would be in his angles. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2618 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 31, 2016 01:17 PM
well with leo rising his family would view him as a generous leo, or enthusiastic warm leo, and he would view the outer world as kind of cool and collected aquarians. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5791 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 31, 2016 01:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: well with leo rising his family would view him as a generous leo, or enthusiastic warm leo, and he would view the outer world as kind of cool and collected aquarians.
The IC rules family and he has pluto in the 1H if he is a Leo riser, you have to look at the planets in the first house too when interpreting a rising sign as it will without a doubt make an important impact. I dont know if I agree with that theory that the DC is how you view the world. He is a therapist and with Leo rising Jupiter in aquarius would conjunct his DC and he is all about energy psychology and taught me emotional freedom techniques which is a very Uranian approach to therapy. He also taught me about flower essences... IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2618 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 31, 2016 01:22 PM
if you go to the second picture part below the first pic on here http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236853.html go to the section that compares ASC's to MH's. as you can compare libra ascs to libra mhs, or scorp ascs to scorp mhs, the asc is really the thing that "meets who they are" just the cutting degree angle shapes their identity. now compare the MH, they are less aware of their MH, it is like a light projection unconscious (not aware of it) projection. the ASC is like they are aware that they are like that. the MH is more like a background energy like a guy glances over from 35 feet away and says oh she is cute and notices the MH IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2618 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 31, 2016 01:25 PM
the MH looks like it is "one" with everything, the ASC looks like it is an individual different idenditiy, but the MH is like it is one with the whole world, inseparateIP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5791 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 31, 2016 01:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: well with leo rising his family would view him as a generous leo, or enthusiastic warm leo, and he would view the outer world as kind of cool and collected aquarians.
He is indeed very warm, generous and positive and that is how I view him and his family also sees that in him no doubt but when they talk about him in his early years (IC territory as well) he sounds plutonic in combo with Aquarius. Also my mom has venus and mars in aquarius so it makes sense in that regard too that he has DC in aquarius. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5791 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 31, 2016 01:34 PM
Based on the pics you have showed me I still feel the same as before that is too vague and subjective to rectify a chart on looks. I am looking at all those faces and dont see much of a common ground between the two caps, two sags, two pisces ect that you posted. My partner saw it too and finds it too subjective. Thanks anyways, I do think you have good instincts and one of the first signs you mentioned was Leo coincidentally. Regardless I truly appreciate you looking into it and like I said will consider Pisces and compare to Leo rising and see which chart as a whole fits more.IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2618 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 31, 2016 01:38 PM
well the face expresses what's inside, and what is inside is certain signs, so there is a link. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5791 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 31, 2016 01:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: well the face expresses what's inside, and what is inside is certain signs, so there is a link.
The angles all aspect each other after all and your deepest self is your IC, the AC is how you react automatically to the environment which in his case is in a warm and positive way but the IC is our deepest self and we don't show it to everyone but only to very close ones like our family and who we marry. Unless you are like me and maybe my dad which I have the IC ruler falling in my 1H conjuncting Jupiter so my deepest self is there for everyone to see. Its interesting bc he is social, warm and open but also reserved and mysterious at the same time. Like you can tell he keeps a lot to himself and takes his time to tell you what he thinks, again fits with sun in cap, moon in virgo and Leo rising with pluto in the 1H. I am not sure what you mean by the MH been a part of us we cannot see, that sounds more like the 12H but I dont know if agree anyways that we are not in touch with our 12H planets, I feel is more complex than that. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2618 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 31, 2016 01:53 PM
when my sun p. to 12th, i did find it accurate that i preffered to not be seen, to be invisible. that is the description of the 12th house, "working behind the scenes" and hidden unconcious feelings that we arent aware of. but i think it really is just the same as pisces, mutable spiritual, kind and understanding. anyway i only based my MH description from lookign at the picture. without it, i would have said it is yoru stance in the world.
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5791 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 31, 2016 02:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: when my sun p. to 12th, i did find it accurate that i preffered to not be seen, to be invisible. that is the description of the 12th house, "working behind the scenes" and hidden unconcious feelings that we arent aware of. but i think it really is just the same as pisces, mutable spiritual, kind and understanding. anyway i only based my MH description from lookign at the picture. without it, i would have said it is yoru stance in the world.
But plenty of people work on themselves and been in touch with their subconscious so this idea that you are not in touch with your 12H is fatalistic, if you have capacity for insight you should be able to tap into the power of the planets that fall in the 12H. Some astrologers see the 12H as your hidden gifts for good reason and the 12H is connected to past lives so it could be gifts you bring over from previous life or that are passed down to you. Also having planets in the 12H do give you a strong desire for solitude and alone time but that does not mean you are not in touch with that planet and that this planet is a total mystery to you. If you are like me and planet feels mysterious to you then you became obsessed with it till you master it! and that is why 12H planets are hidden talents that are there waiting for you to discover and use. In my case I have used my "hidden talent" to make a living since Pluto in the 12H conjuncts my Saturn. If anything 12H planets tend to lead to a lot of self reflection and when people reflect they learn a lot about themselves so if anything I would argue that people with planets in the 12H have more capacity for insight and are more self-aware than people that don't. Honestly everyone I know that has planets int he 12H tends to be very in touch with themselves as far as their flaws and life ect bc they are always int their head exploring themselves and reflecting while people who don't have anything in their 12H tend to not be as in touch with themselves.
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