posted January 05, 2017 12:48 PM            

What could this mean?
Should I be concerned?? (Virgo Moon!!)

Transits to natal on 10th Feb 2017:

posted January 05, 2017 01:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Wow!

can you upload the image Natal with Solar return houses outside?

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posted January 05, 2017 01:44 PM            

And I just noticed t.Jupiter on Asc. and t.Pluto is heading for n.Venus and n.South Node!

Here is the Natal with Solar return Houses:

posted January 05, 2017 10:15 PM            

That is a technical term, matchy matchy...

posted January 05, 2017 11:46 PM            

On a lighter side... (dreaming up a story here)

Eclipses can be good too??

Maybe you finally get news of a job offer that will bring you into a public sector or limelight.

You'll need an outlay of finances for relo and/or set-up associated with it. You might finding yourself having to spend (or lose) money you weren't expecting... but then, it can come back to you in another way. You make adjustments again (monetarily, or in self-esteem), re-prioritize your plans, adjusting your values...

Could lead to new beginnings (NM eclipse Pisces in 4th house Real Estate sector); or new profound and psychologically deep insights about yourself you didn't see before that could really open things up for you.

Could involve one of your parents in some way? .. either them personally, or, your needing to ask them something significant.. especially over something from your past. You find a resolution for something that haunted you for a while.

Keep track of your health, keep your thoughts going more to the positive when/if you feel mental attitude getting depressive. Keep your nerves nourished (worry kinds, and physical nerve system health support).

A new relationship can enter your life that could sweep you off your feet, make you want to move in with them, but, it could become unstable and erratic, or have a higher edginess to the relationship or circumstance than you're used to. (This could be the stress and draw on your nerves?) It's all higher stress energy (even if it's good), so keep track and balance yourself.

posted January 06, 2017 03:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
The Sun will always return to the natal position on or near your birthday . I also have a Mercury return on my next SR. Besides planning to go back to school, I think it means that there will be some emphasis on 12th house issues, as Mercury rules my 12th house. Mercury rules your 9th and 11th houses, so expect those to play some type of role in your coming year.

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Oh yes, I am aware that is what the solar return is. I do not often pay attention to transits though and hadn't noticed two planets returning at the same time before.

Once I started looking at this, I noticed other transiting planets hitting other key areas in the chart, so I do think this year will be significant when all are put together.

Earlier I had also been checking out my Davison with my partner, which is getting hits around the same time as my (and his) solar return, probably why I got so excited ans felt that I *must* notice something this time!

The reason I have rarely looked at transits is my reluctance to accept that we can predict anything with any tool. I've read tarot for 21 years and it's never felt right to me to offer predictions. However, were I to come across personal evidence of the ability to predict, I would be pleasantly surprised (although, I may still chose not to do it).

I have applied for a doctorate which I should hear back from early this year (9th house) which would lead to a totally different environment for me, I would have to leave my job and work in another area (it's a waged course with placement). This would fit with 11th house hopes and dreams as it is the last big step on my career path.

posted January 06, 2017 03:50 AM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I see Mercury returns coinciding with solar returns pretty near exact very often actually; they do travel together after all, Mercury and the Sun. Nothing to be concerned about but can be significant I think in terms of synching the year's energy with your understanding of the year's energy, and having the way you connect with your experience be more or less matchy matchy...

That is a technical term, matchy matchy...

lol... sorry I don't have more on this right now!

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Yeah, I need to pay more attention to transits Yung!
Glad it's nothing to worry about. You know, I think this will be like a consolidation of the longer-term Saturn return graft. Some work I began then is not complete yet. But I do think I am far enough from it to have a clear picture of my direction now, and like you say, understand the experiences of the previous years.

posted January 06, 2017 03:59 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Voix...

On a lighter side... (dreaming up a story here)

Eclipses can be good too??

Maybe you finally get news of a job offer that will bring you into a public sector or limelight.

You'll need an outlay of finances for relo and/or set-up associated with it. You might finding yourself having to spend (or lose) money you weren't expecting... but then, it can come back to you in another way. You make adjustments again (monetarily, or in self-esteem), re-prioritize your plans, adjusting your values...

Could lead to new beginnings (NM eclipse Pisces in 4th house Real Estate sector); or new profound and psychologically deep insights about yourself you didn't see before that could really open things up for you.

Could involve one of your parents in some way? .. either them personally, or, your needing to ask them something significant.. especially over something from your past. You find a resolution for something that haunted you for a while.

Keep track of your health, keep your thoughts going more to the positive when/if you feel mental attitude getting depressive. Keep your nerves nourished (worry kinds, and physical nerve system health support).

A new relationship can enter your life that could sweep you off your feet, make you want to move in with them, but, it could become unstable and erratic, or have a higher edginess to the relationship or circumstance than you're used to. (This could be the stress and draw on your nerves?) It's all higher stress energy (even if it's good), so keep track and balance yourself.

(Just guessing with all that..)

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Hi Mirage, good to see you
An offer of a place on the course would be similar to a job offer, as you are technically working while studying, so this would be great!

I wouldn't be relocating, however that will bring increased travel expenses. I have really been hoping for some more stability in finances this year (Saturn has just exited my 2nd house). We do actually want to move house, but financially, it's not the best time.

posted January 06, 2017 04:23 AM            

Mercury and Sun never move far from each other but having the return on the Same day (or even within 3 days) is absolutely important and brings Mercur matters to the forefront, too. Your exact Mercury return would be interesting to check, too (in terms of the angles, Vertex and Moon position mostly - the others will be the same as the Solar).

for example natally I have Sun conjunct Mercury in natal, but in Solar Returns?
Well cannot remember them happening simultaneously (I had a Venus Return within 3 days of my Solar Return some years ago though).

okay, I was checking now

I was having my Mercury return on the day or one day off Solar Return

2008 - which was maybe one of the most lifechanging years in my life, esp. in terms of meeting P, which really became a catalyst to a profound personal evolvement (even though I was disappearing from view for a few years after we met).

well Mercury rules my natal DESC, maybe that is the reason from me it seemed to relate to encounters and other people.

and that was it (the next time will be in 2021)

for this and the last year my Mercury is firmly placed in Capricorn conjunct Pluto - quite a new experience for a natal Sag-Mercury.

posted January 06, 2017 04:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No need to worry, it just looks quite significant,the SR Jupiter on your n ASC really got my attention, plus SR Vertex is there as well, so you might get some surprises during the year, with Jupiter, seems to be quite expansive.

Mercury and Sun never move far from each other but having the return on the Same day (or even within 3 days) is absolutely important and brings Mercur matters to the forefront, too. Your exact Mercury return would be interesting to check, too (in terms of the angles, Vertex and Moon position mostly - the others will be the same as the Solar).

for example natally I have Sun conjunct Mercury in natal, but in Solar Returns?
Well cannot remember them happening simultaneously (I had a Venus Return within 3 days of my Solar Return some years ago though).

okay, I was checking now

I was having my Mercury return on the day or one day off Solar Return

2008 - which was maybe one of the most lifechanging years in my life, esp. in terms of meeting P, which really became a catalyst to a profound personal evolvement (even though I was disappearing from view for a few years after we met).

well Mercury rules my natal DESC, maybe that is the reason from me it seemed to relate to encounters and other people.

and that was it (the next time will be in 2021)

for this and the last year my Mercury is firmly placed in Capricorn conjunct Pluto - quite a new experience for a natal Sag-Mercury.

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Thank you for this Ceridwen.

Your personal evolution in relation to other people, was this at both a perceptual and self-concept level then with Sun and Mercury? Have those changes remained with you until now and led to more effectiveness in your dealings with other people?

Mercury in Capricorn cj. Pluto sounds very powerful, albeit potentially heavy at times. Depth, precision and progress all rolled into one!

posted January 06, 2017 06:16 AM            

"Your personal evolution in relation to other people, was this at both a perceptual and self-concept level then with Sun and Mercury?"
Yes. Absolutely.
I was not used to be looked at as if I was a woman (had resigned myself to be just a mind on legs and a good friend/ sister/daughter/teacher/colleague), but being treated like that, like I was even remotely intresting in a social sense? even attractive or at least intriguing? No, absolutely not.

I couldn`t deal with that though, as he brought a tarot Tower-experience to my previous self-conception, but then again ever since I met him he was constantly pushing me to question and modify and reevaluate myself (esp. in terms of other people, or selfpresentantion or whatever).

" Have those changes remained with you until now and led to more effectiveness in your dealings with other people?"
Yes, even though there ws a long slumbering period, some years actually, in which the changes took place underneath so to speak, since 2012 however they have become more and more manifest.

Well on a physical level I shed 50 kilos for example, I still am chubby and overweight, but am pretty comfortable with how I look nowadays (at least with clothes on. lol), and I guess am more confident than ever, which implies that I am able to deal with both, male appreciation as well as some female hostility towards me (just a certain type of women, who seem to hate me without even knowing me, but I`ve started to realize what the reason could be )

I am a bit more aware of my surroundings in this regard.

I also made some aquaintances esp. over the last 2 years and just get out more often, socializing, and P is still pushing me to the end of my comfortzone now and then, but every stepping out of there seems to show me that I have not reached my REAL limits by a long shot. There is still more to go. LOL
No clue why HE knows me better than I do, or maybe just senses that about me, but I accept and welcome that slight pushing.
Not to mention that our interaction completely changed, probably mostly due to me stopping so ultra-defensive.
I mean from the beginning it has been weird to think he even wanted to interact with me, after all he is a performer, and I am jsut audience. But by now it`s become abundantly clear that obviously he always wanted to and enjoys our interactions and is really amazingly attentive towards and appreciative of me, something he`s probably always been but I was too blind or stuck up in myself to either notice or accept it.
But well, things have changed, and while I still think it is a bit unusual/ crazy, I guess it`s just what it is. And when you strip all the social ideas/ conceptions away, we are just people anyway.
(well he is of course not a big celebrity or something, just a local performer and curiously we have quite a bit in common in terms of family background and past).

But it`s not just him, my relating to others in many ways has changed and branched out, becoming more open.

"Mercury in Capricorn cj. Pluto sounds very powerful, albeit potentially heavy at times. Depth, precision and progress all rolled into one!"
Yes, last year it was in 2nd house of the Solar, now it is in 11th house (but still 2nd house in natal). has a lot to do with values, of myself but also from others, and i guess I am going to have an interesting time in groups and social areas.
Well, it already started I guess, I`ve never before really gotten into a fight on LL before, and now it seems almost all threads I am on turn to fights. It`s not what I want, but I guess I am less yielding when it comes to my opinions, beliefs, thoughts, expressions whatever than I used to come across (I really never were, I just wasn`t more in-expressive).

I am sure SR Mars on SR ASC in Aquarius on my 3rd house cusp in natal does not help there either. lol

"These changes to my perception and sense of who I am may help me address a weakness of mine - interviews - which could result in a place being offered. "
Yes, I think it could. Your Saturn-Pluto on the ASC tends to coming across as reserved and possibly closed off or too focused/intense/ internalizing, even shy on a first glance.
With Jupiter on this ASC it should help you to constructively though proably gradually work on that and getting more expansive. Esp. since Jupiter rules your natal 3rd house.

Sun is in the 10th house conjunct cusp 11th, so I am thinking, there will be a connection between your job/ career and social groups/ gatherings, maybe socializing with bosses and colleagues.

Mercury is pretty close to the MC, though on natal IC, so a good chance that you will be able to verbalize what is going on inside of you and it will be publicly heard.

The ASC falls into your natal 8th house - so there probably will some transformations taking place, the profound kind, and with Mercury chartruler on the MC and natal IC it will be simultaneously become very visible (well you and your communications) but also will affect your homebase and how you feel inside deeply.

Another thing I noticed was how Venus and Mars are in 12th house - hmm, planning to have a secret or clandestine relationship?
just kidding, but sometimes it can mean that.

With Uranus on your natal DESC, there could be sudden, surprising events connected to a relationship, some change taking place, either a break up, or an unforeseen relationship suddenly happening, or even making an ongoing relationship official (Uranus rules 10th and 11th house in SR after all), even starting an affair with a colleague would be possible, but of course just one of many manifestations.

Could just mean that an existing relationship will enter into a new stage.

You have a Leo Moon in SR (like me. lol) but in 4th house. and in SR 10th, ruler of your 3rd house and Sr 9th house.

That is all very interesting as the combinations of 4th, 10th, 3rd and 9th are coming up again and again, therefore some linked developments concerning home/ family, career/social status, communications/neighbourhood and expansion/ travel/ university etc. should happen.

posted January 06, 2017 07:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
The reason I have rarely looked at transits is my reluctance to accept that we can predict anything with any tool. I've read tarot for 21 years and it's never felt right to me to offer predictions. However, were I to come across personal evidence of the ability to predict, I would be pleasantly surprised (although, I may still chose not to do it).

I have applied for a doctorate which I should hear back from early this year (9th house) which would lead to a totally different environment for me, I would have to leave my job and work in another area (it's a waged course with placement). This would fit with 11th house hopes and dreams as it is the last big step on my career path.

Thank you for responding Beautiful Light. When is your return and have you been accepted for school already?

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posted January 09, 2017 10:39 AM            

many thanks for explaining how this felt for you, I need all the help I can get to get to grips with transits.

Thank you also for the pointers on my own transits, I agree with your interpretation that these are the likely manifestations.
Not a clandestine relationship though haha. I know Venus/Mars 12th *can* mean this, but that's not something I would chose - I am a reformed character in this regard

Uranus has been nudging my DC for a while. I've been in a relationship with prominent Uranus aspects for 5 years now. We have been having discussions about doing something that some may regard as "officialising" the relationship, however, it's really just a wee celebration of our relationship in our opinion, and not a legal document in sight!

posted January 09, 2017 10:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
[b] The reason I have rarely looked at transits is my reluctance to accept that we can predict anything with any tool. I've read tarot for 21 years and it's never felt right to me to offer predictions. However, were I to come across personal evidence of the ability to predict, I would be pleasantly surprised (although, I may still chose not to do it).

I have applied for a doctorate which I should hear back from early this year (9th house) which would lead to a totally different environment for me, I would have to leave my job and work in another area (it's a waged course with placement). This would fit with 11th house hopes and dreams as it is the last big step on my career path.

Thank you for responding Beautiful Light. When is your return and have you been accepted for school already?

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Oh, that is very cool about your higher education (9th house) and gains (11th house). I actually don't know what I'll be studying yet, as I feel like I could be called to so many different areas. But with the asteroids Academia and Educatio passing over my Mercury as well (in the Solar Arc), I figured now is a good time to go back and learn something. Educatio, Aesculapia and Panacea will be in my SR 12th house, so it might be healing related. My next SR is in May and I plan to continue to travel a lot, too (12th/9th house natal Sun). Oh and I'm also a Virgo Moon and will have SR Vertex conjunct my natal Jupiter [/B][/QUOTE]

Well, I don't really believe anything is set in stone, and all is energy that we can direct to what we wish, so I see astrology and tarot as similar in this respect.

If I am ever confronted with evidence to the contrary however, I will gladly eat my hat!