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Ami Anne
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posted January 05, 2017 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dave asked me about this. I appreciate the article requests because your desire for them gets me more excited. So, lets see what the MC has to say. The MC is one’s public face. It is one’s face in one’s career and one’s face to society One’s face in one’s daily life may be quite different. This would be shown by the Ascendent.

The Sun’s Aspects to the MC

The Sun conjunct the MC is the sign of a superstar. It is rare but if you have it, you are destined to greatness.A conjunction is always the most powerful aspect, so keep that in mind. If one thinks of a fire, the conjunction is sitting right next to the fire. You feel the heat. You feel the warmth. It is very up close and personal. Hence, when looking at aspects, in general, scope out the conjunctions first. Degrees always matter and matter a great deal. The closer the degree, the more powerful the conjunction.

Lets look at the other aspects.

Sun Trine or Sextile the MC

The Trine is an effortless gift. One is graced by the gods. The sextile is a buried trine. It is a gift but must have effort to unearth. Both of these aspects grace the native with the self confidence to succeed in his career and to have an honorable place in society.

Sun Square or Oppose the MC

The square is a locked position, in my opinion. It cannot be changed but it can be worked around. Hence, the Sun square the MC would make for a difficult time putting forth one’s ego in a career. One may fight authority. One may not get along with bosses. One may leave job after job. The opposition is not locked in like the square. It is a swinging back and forth between opposite sides. Hence, this native may be confident, at times, and insecure and unsure at others.


Moon Aspects

Moon conjunct the MC will show his heart to the world. He will be an open book in the area of career and public image. He may not be so in his daily life. This would be the domain of Moon conjunct the ASC.

Moon trine or Sextile the MC

This aspect allows the native to use his heart in his career. He will be gifted in this way. I don’t know if Mr. Rogers had this but he could have. This native may write or speak from his heart. At any rate, one would see his heart.

Moon Square or Oppose the MC

Moon square the MC may not be able to show his heart to the world. He may be the cold, grouch in his career. He may be very different in his daily life but in his career, he may appear heartless. I think of Donald Trump, whom I love, by the way, but he seems like he is all head and no heart when it comes to work. With his family, he seems loving. This would be a good example of Moon square the MC.

Moon oppose the MC

This native may show his heart and then pull back and be cold. He may not ever be able to find middle ground balance. This is typical of any opposition.

Mercury ‘s Aspects

Mercury conjunct the MC will show his intellect and/or communication abilities to the world. He may be a speaker, actor or a writer. He will be a natural in the realm of communication

Mercury Trine or Sextile the MC

This native could use his mind in an effortless way to reach his goals. He would have good communication skills which he could use in his career.


Mercury Square or Oppose the MC

This person may feel that he cannot communicate well and this may be a stumbling block to his career.

Venus Aspects

Venus conjunct the MC may be beautiful and/or have a career in beauty such as a model or a clothes designer.

Venus trine the MC

This native could use his sense of beauty to help him in his career. He may be an art critic or a music critic. He could use his sensitivity to beauty in his career, in a variety of ways from hair stylist to photographer.

Venus Square or Oppose the MC

This native may feel blocked in applying his sense of aesthetics to his career. He may not have an eye for beauty and this may hold him back in his chosen career. He may listen to the music, but not feel the beat, so to speak.

Mars Aspects

Mars conjunct the MC is a super goal oriented person. When one looks at him, one would see drive, drive, drive.

Mars Trine or Sextile the MC

This native can set a career goal and go after it, as easy as pie( or almost)

Mars Square or Oppose the MC

This native may feel blocked in his goals. He may feel as if he just cannot figure out how to get from Point A to Point B. He may feel as if his goals are always blocked or there is always an inordinate struggle.

Saturn Aspects

Saturn Conj the MC is an unfortunate position. The native feels a sense of insecurity, as if he can never measure up. He tries to do well and he may do well, but inside he drives himself and is insecure in the process.

Saturn Trine or Sextile the MC

The Saturn trine is quite different than the Saturn conjunction to the MC. With the trine, the native can discipline himself to reach his goals. He can climb the mountain, slow and steady. In time, he will get to the top and look back with pride at how far he has come. This native will mature as he ages and as he experiences life.

Saturn Square or Oppose the MC

This native doubts his abilities. He may be the proverbial Pigpen who has a cloud of gloom around him. He may doubt he will every achieve his goals. He may feel that one stumbling block after another is thrown in his path.

Jupiter Aspects

Jupiter conjunct the MC gives wonderful luck in career. It, also, confers an optimism and joy that makes the native well liked. Hence, he would rise his his chosen career.

Jupiter Trine or Sextile the MC

The native uses his wonderful personality and inner light to help him in his career. He will be a natural people person and naturally popular

Jupiter Square or Oppose the MC

The native may have bad timing. He may apply for the job the day after it is filled. He may give too much or give too little but he seems to not be able to find the balance.


Neptune Aspects

Neptune conjunct the MC may be a great artist or musician. He may be a spiritual leader. However, he may be lost in his own dreams and do little, as well.

Neptune trine the MC

The Neptune trine is quite different than the Neptune conjunction. The trine offers the best use of Neptune’s gifts without the downside. The trine allows creativity to flow. The native may have a wonderful imagination and be a creative genius. He could have a career in the arts, writing, interior design or any career where creative gifts are needed.

Neptune Square or Oppose the MC

Neptune squares are not easy. The native may get lost in illusions. This native may dream about a career but not have the wherewithal to go about actually getting one. On the other hand, his creativity may make it hard for him to be linear to have a job with it’s daily exigencies.

Uranus Aspects

Uranus conjunct the MC would confer a unique, out of the box quality on the native. He would find it very hard to be a nine to five person in a corporate setting. He would need to define his own career and do it his own way.

Uranus Trine or Sextile the MC

This native could use his ingenuity to make fantastic out of the box contributions to any job. He would be known as the person who could think outside the box.

Uranus Square or Oppose the MC

This native may be too weird to hold a job. I am exaggerating, a bit. However, he may find it very hard to channel his weirdness( and we all have it) to his everyday work life.

Pluto Aspects

Pluto conjunct the MC is a power position. One does not mess with this native because this native personifies personal power.

Pluto Trine or Sextile the MC

This native can take his immense personal power and channel it into a career. He has an inherent strength which he can use for his own good and that of others. Think of a Ted Cruz.

Pluto Square or Oppose the MC

This native may be too belligerent to hold a job. I exaggerate for artistic license. However, he may be the type to act rashly and punch out the boss instead of quietly leaving the room. His primal power may work against him because it is not channeled as is the Trine. Hence, he may lose job after job for anger displays.

Chiron Aspects

Chiron conjunct the MC is one of the hardest Chiron positions, second only to Chiron conjunct the ASC. Chiron conjunct the MC shows his pain to the world. One does not have much choice in any MC planet showing itself to the world. However, the last thing anyone wants is his pain on display. I think Casey Anthony had this. I am not commenting on her case, just saying that her pain was shown to the world and this placement fits.

Chiron Trine or Sextile the MC

This native can use his pain in his career. He may be a therapist or a writer of self help books such as a Wayne Dyer. The trine allows positive use of the planet, which is pain, in this case

Chiron Square or Oppose the MC

This native may be held back from a career or the career of his choice, by pain. He may not be able to get beyond his pain in order to succeed in a career.

Note--Famous people mentioned are illustrative of aspects, not necessarily having the actual aspects, unless specifically indicated

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posted January 05, 2017 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces MC trine venus, jupiter, chiron and pluto. Sextile neptune and saturn I love my MC its the only good thing about my chart :P And my career is nice thank god <3

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posted January 05, 2017 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Pisces MC trine venus, jupiter, chiron and pluto. Sextile neptune and saturn I love my MC its the only good thing about my chart :P And my career is nice thank god <3


Those seem really nice, N!

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posted January 05, 2017 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love my MC too, in Gemini. Doesn't really come accross on LL I think. It's conjunct Mercury, trine Uranus, trine Moon and sextile Venus.

Communication 1000x, my job is talking, listening, short appointments, phoning, emailing, talking ... speaking from the heart, listening with my heart and out of the box and very authentic. All ring true.

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posted January 05, 2017 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Pisces MC trine venus, jupiter, chiron and pluto. Sextile neptune and saturn I love my MC its the only good thing about my chart :P And my career is nice thank god <3

Blessed! Nice aspects!!!

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posted January 05, 2017 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonsai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a very badly aspected MC. Venus square (albeit a wide orb of just over 5), Jupiter square (orb of around 3.5), Uranus opposite (very tight orb of 11 minutes) and chiron conjunct (less than 1 orb) and I wouldn't say my career is going badly. In fact it's going quite well and I don't have a problem with the way I appear to society either. When I just started my career, I'll admit that I had greatly difficulty getting my foot in the door, but now things are OK.

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posted January 05, 2017 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sylven:
I love my MC too, in Gemini. Doesn't really come accross on LL I think. It's conjunct Mercury, trine Uranus, trine Moon and sextile Venus.

Communication 1000x, my job is talking, listening, short appointments, phoning, emailing, talking ... speaking from the heart, listening with my heart and out of the box and very authentic. All ring true.



Very nice, S!

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posted January 05, 2017 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bonsai:
I have a very badly aspected MC. Venus square (albeit a wide orb of just over 5), Jupiter square (orb of around 3.5), Uranus opposite (very tight orb of 11 minutes) and chiron conjunct (less than 1 orb) and I wouldn't say my career is going badly. In fact it's going quite well and I don't have a problem with the way I appear to society either. When I just started my career, I'll admit that I had greatly difficulty getting my foot in the door, but now things are OK.


Yea, the angles and their aspects will come to pass but so glad you are good now, B!

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posted January 06, 2017 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ari-Sco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My MC is the easiest in the whole chart

in leo trine sun and venus and sextile jupiter

although I have sun and venus in the 6th square uranus which is brining chaos and problems sometimes but they can't get me the MC is always wining and solving things keeping me shining

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posted January 06, 2017 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Ari-Scorp

Great post

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posted January 06, 2017 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On astroclick (Astro.com) It shows I've more aspects than I think appears on the extended chart selection so I often forget I've got them I.e didn't know about sun or maybe they are too wide on there

Saturn conjunct
Venus square
Sun trine
Moon trine
Neptune trine
Jupiter sextile

Sort of the opposite to bonsai, I feel I've got pretty nice aspects here but that it's not representative of how it is. I've had so many career frustrations and even though have skills / experience / education, it never amounts to much. This could be Venus square as it does feel to do with low confidence. I'm not very charismatic either but I do make some impression when it matters, in certain settings.

When I reflect though, there's ups and downs but there's some cushioning and luck I do have. I possibly need to work harder but not in the fearful oppressing way Saturn aspects act which is counter productive.

I think I should write somehow professionally and then those aspects would unfold more

Eta I've low confidence in some ways, high confidence in other ways which i think reflects the Saturn and Jupiter. It's the distance between my inner confidence and the world that seems big which is why I want to work so I can bring those closer I.e. Less filter between the actual work & the world.

Also Saturn falls in my 10th in equal house system. I'm much better in an academic setting than workplace. Even though academic obstacles too I can overcome more easily

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posted January 06, 2017 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptunicity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn in the 10th and Pluto in the 9th and 10th conjunct midheaven. Let's say the negative aspects of these placements are the ones manifesting in my life. I think Pluto is the greatest shake-up planet that clobbers you to the core. Their negative transits and progressions will leave you powerless and defeated! With that said, I have moon trine midheaven though.

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posted January 06, 2017 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sylven:
Blessed! Nice aspects!!!

Thanks, yours too

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posted January 06, 2017 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I have Gemini Sun (in the 10th) conjunct MC and I am definitely not a star... lol I'm still trying to understand how this aspect applies to me. Or maybe I just haven't hit it big yet...

In addition, I have:
Jupiter sq. MC
Uranus opp. MC.
Neptune opp. MC

I don't know if these aspects are responsible for this mentality, but I've always felt like sort of blase about my jobs throughout my life. Maybe it's because I've never had a problem finding a job when I needed one (Jupiter in 6th) but I think also I've fallen into a career I'm not totally satisfied with, and therefore I don't apply myself 100%. I definitely feel like I should have chosen a different path.

It's also sort of a dichotomy because I accept my station and work very hard to do my job well, but I challenge authority because I feel very independently capable. I would rather do things my way or "be my own boss." I get very defensive when someone disagrees with my way of doing something and this is something I need to work on because I clearly don't have all of the answers.

However, because of this mindset, I rarely ask for help and am told I have an air of maturity and competence about me in the office. I think my employer puts a lot of faith in my abilities for this reason.

I think I just answered a lot of my own questions about my MC by talking this out... lol

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posted January 06, 2017 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love the comments.

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posted January 07, 2017 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mymeyou     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have sun loosly conjunct mc (8 degree). Do you think it still count? I am rather shy and dibt expect to become famous or sonethibg like that.

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posted January 07, 2017 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mymeyou:
I have sun loosly conjunct mc (8 degree). Do you think it still count? I am rather shy and dibt expect to become famous or sonethibg like that.


I would say that 8 degree is probably too wide, my Friend.

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posted January 08, 2017 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So i guess the entry is prepared,

Sun cnj. MC by 1 degree

"destined to greatness" , i see..

funny that my Sun stands on the 11th. degree of Cancer, a Shipwrek on a desert beach, something like that, stands for the sabian symbol

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Sun and Jupiter conjunct MC. MC square Neptune, trine Chiron, sextile Uranus, semisextile Pluto and Moon, semisquare Mars. Picky about what I do. Haven't been career oriented thus far. More soul searching and seeking experience. A chapter has closed. Time to get real.

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posted January 09, 2017 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Thanks, yours too


I knooooow!!! Aren't we the MC Rockers!! [insert head banger]

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posted January 09, 2017 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieMG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also love my MC:

Pisces MC in the 9th house
- conjunct Jupiter in the 9th.
- trine Sun and Mercury in the 2nd.
- trine Saturn in the 6th.
- sextile Moon in the 8th.
- square Neptune in the 7th (bummer).

I feel really blessed with all these aspects, I don't have a great career (yet), but I love my job and I love to be my own boss. I accomplished more than I ever dreamed of and didn't have to sell my kidney in the black market.

There are some things that I hope to achieve in the future, like travel the world, and I feel confident that I will be able to do that when the right time comes.

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Cancer Sun.
Capricorn Moon.
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posted January 09, 2017 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loving the amazing comments on this thread

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posted January 09, 2017 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieMG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by margym0o:
I challenge authority because I feel very independently capable. I would rather do things my way or "be my own boss." I get very defensive when someone disagrees with my way of doing something and this is something I need to work on because I clearly don't have all of the answers.

However, because of this mindset, I rarely ask for help and am told I have an air of maturity and competence about me in the office. I think my employer puts a lot of faith in my abilities for this reason.

I think I just answered a lot of my own questions about my MC by talking this out... lol


We don't share MC aspects, but I totally get what you mean.

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posted January 09, 2017 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Chiron Aspects

Chiron conjunct the MC is one of the hardest Chiron positions, second only to Chiron conjunct the ASC. Chiron conjunct the MC shows his pain to the world. One does not have much choice in any MC planet showing itself to the world. However, the last thing anyone wants is his pain on display. I think Casey Anthony had this. I am not commenting on her case, just saying that her pain was shown to the world and this placement fits.


Anyone ever see Casey Anthony in pain? Usually she just looks stony faced.

Ami,

It's not hard to look up charts. If you decide at some point that you are interested in actually looking at charts, you'll find your understanding of actual placements will increase and you will better inform the people you've taken it upon yourself to teach. And this way, you are not associating an innocent placement with a murderer, for no good reason, you know?

11° Taurus, her MC
9° Gemini, her Chiron

http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Casey_Anthony
http://www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/1900/ae_1986.pdf

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posted January 09, 2017 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Cancer Moon conjunct the MC. I am dearly loved and not loved but you will know me and I will share my heart.

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