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thingsgoneby
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posted January 07, 2017 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this prejudice that Moon Square Saturn people are stern and not the kind of people who’d show their emotions overtly.

What are your emotional life like if you’ve got Moon Square Saturn in your chart?

Generally speaking: Do you often express your emotions through crying? Do you bottle it up? Are you easily frazzled? How do you deal with heartache? Do you let others see your emotions or are you uncomfortable with emotional displays coming from yourself or others?

I want to stress the fact that this is a prejudice, so I might be totally off the mark. I'm just trying to get a better understanding of this aspect.

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posted January 07, 2017 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great question, Thing. I am awaiting answers, too!

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posted January 07, 2017 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes! I don't have this aspect but an ex had it, and he would cry a lot, it would start suddenly and I didn't know what to do. Lots of tears, for the smallest reasons.

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posted January 07, 2017 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know someone with SUN sq Saturn-exact. She cries all the freakin time over the most pathetic things. It's hard to be around her :-/

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posted January 07, 2017 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would think with the square, that the person may bottle it up. Not so?

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posted January 07, 2017 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vegasdlt36     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Stern and not the kind of people who’d show their emotions overtly." Sounds like me. I try to deal with my problems internally. However, when I do feel like I need to share I'm pretty intense.

I have Capricorn moon in 3rd square Virgo Saturn in 11th.

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posted January 07, 2017 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Vegasdlt36:
"Stern and not the kind of people who’d show their emotions overtly." Sounds like me. I try to deal with my problems internally. However, when I do feel like I need to share I'm pretty intense.

I have Capricorn moon in 3rd square Virgo Saturn in 11th.


This is what I would think it would be.

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posted January 07, 2017 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vegasdlt36     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is what I would think it would be.


When I share deep stuff I usually get responses like this "What did you just drop on me? Let me process what you just told me and get back to you. " I am not a crier. If I cry there was a lot of build-up leading to it. "Stuff" kills me inside-I just try to help myself before I unload on someone.

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posted January 07, 2017 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea, V

I don't have it but I was picturing it like that.

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posted January 07, 2017 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are your emotional life like if you’ve got Moon Square Saturn in your chart?

Pretty normal I'd say. There are ups and downs and everything in between.

Generally speaking: Do you often express your emotions through crying?

Depends on the situation. I cry if I feel like it.

Do you bottle it up?

Depends on the situation. Sometimes it's better to keep it in until whatever problem is resolved.

Are you easily frazzled?

Depends. I'm sensitive to certain things, so when it comes to those things, it's harder to remain collected.

How do you deal with heartache?

I break things in the shed.

Do you let others see your emotions or are you uncomfortable with emotional displays coming from yourself or others?

I'm not uncomfortable with either. I get annoyed, grumpy or happy...etc... about stuff that are pretty trivial. And don't really mind it. In many ways, I go kinda easy on myself. So I go pretty easy on others too. People get upset and happy n whatever, it's fine. As long as it's not outrageously offensive.

*Strong* displays of emotions are another matter. Coming from my s.o, strong emotional displays are welcomed, encouraged, handled with a great deal of care n effort, and answered with strong displays from my end. It helps us to get closer.

With other people, often I try to accommodate. I strongly dislike when others make it my responsibility to handle their emotional displays, or try to manipulate/guilt trip me. God if I have a cent for every "Oh but if you love/care/etc.. about me you would <enter demand> I'd be a rich person. Selling me sob stories - no. Tears, snot - no.


I'm saturn dominated, and my moon receives quite a few squares. Emotionally, I don't think I'm wired differently from others (well at least not from most of the people I know). I like some degree of responsibility. Kinda like "I'm happy to listen/help, but don't make your problem mine."

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posted January 08, 2017 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My brother has moon square saturn and I can't remember him ever crying. He would hold in all of his pain.

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posted January 09, 2017 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for coffeetime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i consider myself to be emotional masochist. lots of toxic, negative past memories, torture and feelings of always punching your head into the wall.

about crying - i can cry easily when disturbed. when emotions are pent up, i try to make myself cry everything out because tears come harder when once held in.

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posted January 09, 2017 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:

How do you deal with heartache?

I break things in the shed.


Aries moon poster girl.

It makes sense, with all your 12th House stuff, that people treat you like their therapist. Happens to me all the time. But yo, with a better handle on your own Saturn, are able to set better boundaries. I admire that.

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posted January 09, 2017 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Vegasdlt36:
When I share deep stuff I usually get responses like this "What did you just drop on me? Let me process what you just told me and get back to you. " I am not a crier. If I cry there was a lot of build-up leading to it. "Stuff" kills me inside-I just try to help myself before I unload on someone.


That's awful.. But yeah, people usually can't handle things that are too visceral, too real or too deep. If they're not used to processing it, can feel like some heavy psychic load just dropped on their heads. Safer to deal with it yourself (as you do), or it makes things uncomfortable.
Although it'd be nice for you to get rid of the build-up by confiding in a friend, someone you know won't hold it against you.. I hope you find that outlet somehow, whether it's by talking to someone, writing, or music or painting, or just coming to an online board to talk about stuff.

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posted January 10, 2017 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vegasdlt36     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
That's awful.. But yeah, people usually can't handle things that are too visceral, too real or too deep. If they're not used to processing it, can feel like some heavy psychic load just dropped on their heads. Safer to deal with it yourself (as you do), or it makes things uncomfortable.
Although it'd be nice for you to get rid of the build-up by confiding in a friend, someone you know won't hold it against you.. I hope you find that outlet somehow, whether it's by talking to someone, writing, or music or painting, or just coming to an online board to talk about stuff.

Thank you.

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posted January 10, 2017 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
Aries moon poster girl.

It makes sense, with all your 12th House stuff, that people treat you like their therapist. Happens to me all the time. But yo, with a better handle on your own Saturn, are able to set better boundaries. I admire that.


Without the 12th house influence, I'd probably break stuff in public lol. Think I should make it my new year resolution.

I'd like to think that I have a good grip on saturn like you said. But truth is I don't think I do. Most of the time I manage ok-ish. The giving-receiving thing has always been something I struggle with. I grew up with two *burning* people, so there's an urge to always try to give more water to ease the fire. There's some kind of give-all-that-I-have-and-more tendency (boosted by jupiter in the 7th). But at the same time, self-preservation, selfishness...etc.... make me not want to give. So I get particularly irritated and in some occasions, resentful, when I'm in a situation where I have to say no, coz in truth I don't like not wanting to give.

I remember that when I was much younger, dealing with emotional needs of others was quite difficult, mainly because I felt like there isn't "enough" to give, like I didn't have what they needed/asked for.

Oh yes, you have 8th house placements, hah. I imagine that you're the unofficial therapist in your circles

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posted January 10, 2017 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Without the 12th house influence, I'd probably break stuff in public lol. Think I should make it my new year resolution.

I'd like to think that I have a good grip on saturn like you said. But truth is I don't think I do. Most of the time I manage ok-ish. The giving-receiving thing has always been something I struggle with. I grew up with two *burning* people, so there's an urge to always try to give more water to ease the fire. There's some kind of give-all-that-I-have-and-more tendency (boosted by jupiter in the 7th). But at the same time, self-preservation, selfishness...etc.... make me not want to give. So I get particularly irritated and in some occasions, resentful, when I'm in a situation where I have to say no, coz in truth I don't like not wanting to give.

I remember that when I was much younger, dealing with emotional needs of others was quite difficult, mainly because I felt like there isn't "enough" to give, like I didn't have what they needed/asked for.

Oh yes, you have 8th house placements, hah. I imagine that you're the unofficial therapist in your circles


I know exactly what you mean..about *burning* people. I think that's why Saturn plays a role in how we deal with it? Over time, it gets a teensy bit easier to stand your ground. At the very least we begin to recognise our energy is being sucked dry by these people (I've a 12th H moon too, can relate). As we grow older, come to realize the need to take care of our own selves before giving to others.
Coz how can we give if we're depleted beings ourselves? That's where the "not enough" part comes in, I suppose. We're programmed to respond to those stimuli (the people that need us, the circumstances that demand our attention) on a knee-jerk basis. Eventually it's like trying to draw water out of an empty well. We didn't stop to "nourish" ourselves, so now we're starving on the inside.

Having said that - knowing it consciously is not enough. I'm sure you still have to struggle against those instincts (as I do), and remind yourself to re-prioritize.

And yeah, lotsa 8th house stuff. The combined 8th/12th thing - yeah, a lot of interesting experiences. Not necessarily mine.

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posted January 11, 2017 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can be stern and cold on the outside but completely mush-mash inside. I cry when no one is around, usually in bed at night. I sob quietly.

I'm okay to show anger and happiness but not so much with sadness. I internalize sadness and pain. I don't like to cry in front of people.

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posted January 11, 2017 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much everyone for contributing!

Seems like my prejudice is somewhat accurate, yet, the situation with Moon square Saturn is possibly a bit more nuanced than my prejudice gave it credit for. I’m glad to hear that there's still room for emotional displays, even if it’s in the quiet of your room. Bottled up tears are such a burden.

@YellowGerbera, you say that you internalize your pain, but do you let your closest family/friends/lovers access your emotions or do you always try to keep up a detached exterior even when it comes to them?

Again, thank you everyone. I really enjoyed reading your responses. I think I might have a better grip of this aspect now.

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posted January 11, 2017 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by thingsgoneby:
Thank you so much everyone for contributing!

Seems like my prejudice is somewhat accurate, yet, the situation with Moon square Saturn is possibly a bit more nuanced than my prejudice gave it credit for. I’m glad to hear that there's still room for emotional displays, even if it’s in the quiet of your room. Bottled up tears are such a burden.

@YellowGerbera, you say that you internalize your pain, but do you let your closest family/friends/lovers access your emotions or do you always try to keep up a detached exterior even when it comes to them?

Again, thank you everyone. I really enjoyed reading your responses. I think I might have a better grip of this aspect now.


Hello thingsgoneby!

It's hard for me to let anyone access my emotions actually...

I may allow a little more than say regular friends but I guard my pain and suffering a lot. The only person I allow the most is whoever becomes my SO. So this becomes one of the most important quality I look for in terms of compatibility. He has to know and understand my emotions and how I handle them.

Happy to help!

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posted January 11, 2017 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by thingsgoneby:
Thank you so much everyone for contributing!
Seems like my prejudice is somewhat accurate, yet, the situation with Moon square Saturn is possibly a bit more nuanced than my prejudice gave it credit for. I’m glad to hear that there's still room for emotional displays, even if it’s in the quiet of your room. Bottled up tears are such a burden.


You're welcome.

Moon - saturn on its own would show some tendency to control emotion displays. Whether that results in the native being stern and not showing their emotions overtly, that depends on the position of the moon n saturn, the rest of the chart and upbringing, I think.

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Originally posted by Elysia:
I know exactly what you mean..about *burning* people. I think that's why Saturn plays a role in how we deal with it? Over time, it gets a teensy bit easier to stand your ground. At the very least we begin to recognise our energy is being sucked dry by these people (I've a 12th H moon too, can relate). As we grow older, come to realize the need to take care of our own selves before giving to others.

Coz how can we give if we're depleted beings ourselves? That's where the "not enough" part comes in, I suppose. We're programmed to respond to those stimuli (the people that need us, the circumstances that demand our attention) on a knee-jerk basis. Eventually it's like trying to draw water out of an empty well. We didn't stop to "nourish" ourselves, so now we're starving on the inside.

Having said that - knowing it consciously is not enough. I'm sure you still have to struggle against those instincts (as I do), and remind yourself to re-prioritize.

And yeah, lotsa 8th house stuff. The combined 8th/12th thing - yeah, a lot of interesting experiences. Not necessarily mine.


Beautiful post. I relate with everything you said.

Having issues with giving means that I have issues with receiving as well. It took a while to find balance. And it takes effort to maintain that balance. Am I giving enough, is this person sucking me dry or am I just paranoid? Am I being too much? How to deal with this much attention?

Lol I'm curious about your experiences. I have the 12th house stellium, my s.o has an 8th house one, it's interesting, yeah. But a person who have both 8th house and 12th house influence, I'm thinking of something even more wonderful and insane.

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posted January 11, 2017 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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