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Topic: A Need to Dominate?
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Electro DGX
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From: Plutanus
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posted January 09, 2017 12:15 PM
  
What aspects and/or placements would you think add up to a need to dominate others and/or their surroundings? What aspects would lead someone to feeling inferior about themselves against the world and build up an inner need to dominate everyone around them in order to feel superior vs everyone else? ------------------
Scorpio Ascendant
Aquarius Sun in 4th
Gemini Moon in 8th
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yota13
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posted January 09, 2017 12:57 PM
Hard pluto aspects. Unevolved scorpio thinking. From that perspective it's not really "I have to dominate the external" modus operandi, more like the internal struggle for purification that is reflected outward.IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted January 09, 2017 01:02 PM
Leo MC conj Pluto (if not other aspects milden it). It think this is one ardent indicator.IP: Logged |
Bearee
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posted January 09, 2017 01:30 PM
Not really DOMINATING (well i guess it's kind of dominating) others but more like to want to have the power to control how other people think about you --> Leo Ascendant.
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meyray
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posted January 09, 2017 01:33 PM
I agree with with Scorpio and Pluto but I would also like to add Saturn and the earth signs. Also one very unlikely influence - Sagittarius/Jupiter.Some time ago out of curiosity I decided to check out the charts of various dictators and just from memory I remember what kept popping up - Mars and/or Venus in aspect to Saturn (both hard and soft aspects) Taurus, Capricorn and Sagittarius placements, some Pluto and Jupiter.. Capricorn and Saturn can be horribly dictatorial and not just psychologically like Scorpio/Pluto but in an externalized way where they want to bend reality for everyone to fit their own principles. Taurus by itself probably not so much but combined with factors it can give you the resolve to dominate and stick with it. Vigro, although not know for its dominance, can fall in that direction because of the sign's obsession with "planning" and perfection. Virgo does not like the unknown, and again if combined with factors, can try to dominate the environment to avoid anxiety. The perfectionist quality can also get very ugly if it gets applied to people and relationships. This kind of Virgo influence can make a person see others as "dirty" or "flawed" and can make them feel the need to dominate and control people in order to "fix them" or worse to punish them. Sagittarius is a sign connected to fanaticism and under certain circumstances this influence can also cause a person to impose their views and beliefs onto others. Also Mars/Jupiter can be notorious. IP: Logged |
Nine
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From: The Cusp of Love
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posted January 09, 2017 04:36 PM
I don't believe the need to dominate others comes from inner insecurity. In numerology 8 (17, 26) and 1(10, 28, 19, 11) are also very dominant numbers. IP: Logged |
soren
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posted January 09, 2017 04:42 PM
^I disagree. Why does anyone eat? Because they lack energy. Why does someone try to get stronger? Because they are weak or unhealthy. You try to get something to fill a void IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted January 09, 2017 04:44 PM
Agree with the earth signs.Taurus & Capricorn are very tyrannical. For me, Capricorns are the easier of the two to maneuver because there is a purpose to their madness. Also, Capricorn believes in rewarding effort. Taurus, otoh is impossible, with virtually no let up. I cannot deal with unreasonable people. Leo, imo, is the boss and wants to be recognized as such. Of all the dictators I've worked under, Leo was the most benevolent.  IP: Logged |
soren
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posted January 09, 2017 04:46 PM
Nine when you state opinions, you should say they are opinions. Like I do not say all Pisceans are really foolish. I agree about scorpios and Pisces are foolish, although pisces is the one that generally doesn't fix it I think it would be safer to say, the relationship you had with your parents was like a comparison to being tyrannical, over-controlling. I think you have not discussed these things with people, and therefore you bring it up here.` It is unfortunate if you do share a poor relationship with your parents, but as astrology goes, it is mutual, they are a reaction to your attitudes, but naturally some people don't get along. That is how astrology works, having an over controlling mother with Moon square pluto or something, is a result of your own personality and i am not saying it is your fault i am just keeping true to the topic of astrology. Feel free to discuss your personal feelings here, about how you feel ab out your Cap& Taurus parents, like saying "my mom was a cap and she always did this '..."" is good, and helps you get your feelings out, but just know that just because those 2 were like that, doesn't mean all caps and taureans are. You aren't connecting the right info together, it's not because they are a cap&taurus that you didn't get along with them, the reason you didn't get along is from much deeper reasons, that those sun signs can not show us. What those reasons are, i do not know, other than some people naturally have a component that does not mix well with certain people, as to why sometimes you have best friends (your components mix well) yeah. So i dont know why, but feel free to keep bringing up that so and so was a cap and she behaved like this, but to understand a sign, you should base it on 3+ caps, not only 1 IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher
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posted January 09, 2017 04:50 PM
Lots of Leo.IP: Logged |
GrandFireT
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posted January 09, 2017 05:42 PM
This is straying from the natal chart, but nonetheless sheds interesting light on the question of dominating personalities. The following quote comes from Linda LaZar's Chinese Astrology website. "Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, Machiavelli, Malcolm X, and the Duke of Wellington: What do these men have in common? They were all relentless and charismatic leaders, they would stop at nothing to win, and they were all born under the sign Taurus during the Chinese lunar year of the Ox. The chances of a person being born under the same Western sign and Chinese (Eastern) sign is 1/144. This is not a coincidence, it is a pattern. The exact birth date of Idi Amin, who was born in the 1925 Ox year, cannot be verified. Nevertheless, Amin displayed characteristics of other Ox dictators; and Joseph Kony — a Ugandan known for his crimes against humanity is a 1961-born Ox"
Those interested in this angle will want to read LL's website and learn about all the Leo Ox power figures.
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soren
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posted January 09, 2017 05:44 PM
that is only 6 people and there has been thousands of dictators, i didnt even know 2/3rds of them. and it is also something to be noted those were in another age, a cap does not have the same role in the age of aqua/leo as it did in virgo/pisces, the energy of the planet change, along with how the signs interact in said world. stay on the look out to see, in the new age we just entered, if sag& aries seem, particularily power hungry. IP: Logged |
soren
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posted January 09, 2017 06:23 PM
with that age astro age in mind, i wouldnt be surprised if sag/aries (upper hemisphere = aqua, sextiles, as opposed to those mentions in the above example) were the ones who instead, became power dominated strength. they are flawed away from the perspective of fixivity, so they arent strong enough to not need others, (unlike an aqua/leo in this age who would be so strong with their opinion on what needs to be done, unlike the majority, therefore they could not gain popular opinion because they are too "good" for everyone, thus everyone does not like them as much, can not gain a popular opinion.) yet that flaw also makes them blend with the majority who aren't ultra compatible, but they are similar enough to the age's energy to use the majority's mind to do something that would be compatible
(talking about their compatibility with the age) so stay on the look out for it. IP: Logged |
Elysia
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From: Gotham
Registered: Aug 2015
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posted January 10, 2017 12:18 AM
quote:
Originally posted by GrandFireT:
This is straying from the natal chart, but nonetheless sheds interesting light on the question of dominating personalities. The following quote comes from Linda LaZar's Chinese Astrology website. "Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, Machiavelli, Malcolm X, and the Duke of Wellington: What do these men have in common? They were all relentless and charismatic leaders, they would stop at nothing to win, and they were all born under the sign Taurus during the Chinese lunar year of the Ox. The chances of a person being born under the same Western sign and Chinese (Eastern) sign is 1/144. This is not a coincidence, it is a pattern. The exact birth date of Idi Amin, who was born in the 1925 Ox year, cannot be verified. Nevertheless, Amin displayed characteristics of other Ox dictators; and Joseph Kony — a Ugandan known for his crimes against humanity is a 1961-born Ox"
Those interested in this angle will want to read LL's website and learn about all the Leo Ox power figures.
That is very interesting..Same Western & Chinese sign reinforcing certain traits.
Never thought of it that way. Actually, haven't looked much into the Chinese zodiac at all. I tend to treat it rather like Pluto or Neptune - a somewhat generational, "collective" effect that is not as concentrated as one's sun sign & other natal aspects.
Worth looking into though.  IP: Logged |
Electro DGX
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From: Plutanus
Registered: Jul 2015
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posted January 11, 2017 01:54 PM
Thanks for all the responses! I can definitely agree with certain Scorpio and Leo influences as dominating. ------------------
Scorpio Ascendant
Aquarius Sun in 4th
Gemini Moon in 8th
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