posted January 17, 2017 12:37 PM            

I was walking with a friend of mine to class and she talked to me about the first time she met me. I asked her what her first impression of me was and she said that she thought that I was a mean person at first glance. I was surprised, since people don't particularly tell me that when they first meet me. She also has Mars conjunct Ascendant (in Capricorn), and I got a somewhat similar vibe from her upon first meeting. I can see how Mars-Ascendant can give off that kind of vibe, but Saturn probably amplified it.

It makes me feel more in touch with my ascendant, and it explains why people usually aren't the first to approach me. I usually find that if I want to talk to people, I have to be the one to engage, no one ever engages in a conversation with me, unless they're that confident or believe that I am alone and living in a world of dreaded isolation. I might be putting off these vibes that drive people away, when in reality I don't have anything against certain people in particular. Saturn and Mars at work, with a Scorpio Ascendant.

What about you?

posted January 17, 2017 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Lerena:
Scorpio Ascendant
Moon quincunx Ascendant - orb under 30 minutes
Mars trine Ascendant - orb of 2 degrees
Pluto conjunct Ascendant - orb of 6 degrees

I'm sure I have been perceived as mean. This is less the case now, but when I was younger, I was probably less approachable. On the other hand, I am usually very honest, which I'm sure can be intimidating to people that are more socially pleasant. I tend to prefer honesty over lies so I'm a bit of a blunt person.

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Interesting. Thanks for sharing!

posted January 17, 2017 08:33 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
If you're known to scream at people in the middle of school halls and shout at people who tell you to calm down that you don't give a **** (I'm referring to your post here ) then people have reasons to think you're mean, or at least hesitant to approach you. Even if this is rare, if you get a reputation for it then it's not just your ASC (though that might contribute to it).

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That was back in middle school, in 7th grade. On top of that, I was ****** off because of this whole shenanigan where this group of people was calling me a "lying son of a ***** " (exact words) because some girl that asked me if I wanted to date her wasn't really dating me and I thought she was. I starting screaming at them because they kept calling me a "lying son of a ***** " and wouldn't stop, and that's when the other girl told me to calm down and I screamed back at her. She was completely unaware of what was going on and I was fuming at that point anyways, so I really didn't care about how she took my response. I posted that specifically for Mars in the first house in that thread because that thread was about Mars in the houses, and Mars in the first house literally is: the aggressive DGAF.

If you push me to that point then I will become very aggressive like this. I will say that I was a lot younger and had difficulties with controlling my anger, but now I am better able to execute my anger and better able to control it. Generally I am a nice person and am pretty calm about a lot of things; there's not a lot that bothers me tbh.

As for your second post, thanks for the info. It's interesting how you say "signals" because in my previous experience people have noted the same. A friend (Libra Ascendant with Mars in first) once told me that I put up these invisible barriers around myself and make it hard for people to approach me because I block them all out from seeing the real me. It's interesting, because it's not like I'm consciously trying to drive people away, but people seem to get that impression. Perhaps it's because I'm not the type of person to put myself into their lives like others would.

posted January 17, 2017 08:38 PM            

Moon square MC (1)
Moon conjunct ASC (wide)
Moon quincux pluto (1)
And some wide trines

posted January 17, 2017 08:42 PM            

I have an Aquarius Ascendant and it is square the Moon. People usually say that they think I am really nice and/or friendly, when they first meet me. I think that when you just observe me and aren't speaking to me, I appear more aloof or distant. But, I'm very easy to talk to once you do talk to me.

Also, squares to the Ascendant can act as a barrier and ward people off. In the negative manifestation, planets squaring the Ascendant make a person really tense up, especially with new people, and that can give off the wrong impression, including a certain "meanness", depending on the planet involved. With the Moon square Asc energy, I had to learn, many years ago, to stop being so self-protective and defensive because it would give the wrong impression of me. Now, as an adult, having worked through that and let go of that, I feel like I'm able to give off the really friendly vibes that I want to give off, especially with new people, because you gain a pretty awesome command over your squares once you work through that inner conflict.

posted January 20, 2017 12:42 PM            

In my opinion,it may work more from the inside out in a way that is so unconscious, that it goes missed.

It involves the body,quirks and mannerisms of hand expression/voice tone/facial features, to the way we walk and our external interaction with others.

Planets on the Asc, affect the individual from the inside/out. So much of how they behave or act is very "unconscious" and "off the cuff".

Many never really understand how they come across or why they are perceived in a certain way because they can't help it.

It is not a "mask". As a mask is something conscious that one wears and can "take off" at will. But this is not the Asc nature.

Asc in Capricorn people often appear quite tough and serious. This despite the Sun being in Gemini,Pisces or Sag.

The "meanness" that you are referring to may come from Saturn's influence as it slows down the body,can make one rigid and "fixed".

So many are often considered for positions of authority or seen as "the one most likely to be in charge" because they seem so "in control" of their body(rarely fidgety or nervous),trustworthy,consistent and their responses on most things sound so well thought out(Saturn).

These guys can say a speech that seems prepared even though it was not.And
although Saturn can feel self-conscious whilst saying this speech,it also endows one with the ability to put all that aside and get the job done. Often appearing more confident to others than one thinks they are.

Now Mars conjunct the Asc may negate that a lot.Mars is action and is -like Mercury-a "busy" planet that wants to "do" ,"do" and "do".

So the nervous system may not be stable and may be prone to exhaustion and over exertion -due to constant energy supplies. One may need to learn to rest and take it easy.

Anxiety, restlessness and a tendency to fidget a lot may plague the person. There could be a struggle to maintain a steadiness/consistency in approach, troubles with "settling down" and a life that is characterized by someone who is constantly "on the move" is also likely.

posted January 20, 2017 01:16 PM            

I've met Capricorn ASC people that were so sweet and warm - they had exact Jupiter sextile ASC, and I think their Moon square Neptune added to their receptiveness.

I have Sag ASC and Jupiter loosely trine ASC, so by textbook I should be outgoing - but I've been told by one person that they thought I was stuck up at first. I've been asked why I look like I'm not having fun in the club. Friends say I have resting b*tch face all the time. Lol.

The only thing I can think of is my Moon square MC.

posted January 21, 2017 12:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
Most than one person told me:
"I thought you were someone else with that stuck up -don't touch me- attitude."

Moon square MC (1)
Moon conjunct ASC (wide)
Moon quincux pluto (1)
And some wide trines

Please don't quote.

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posted January 21, 2017 01:32 PM            

Have I ever been perceived as mean? Yes. Does it happen often? No.

I have met, encountered, worked...etc...with a lot of different people of different personalities, values n struggles. Plus, I am quite *colourful* myself. Hence, people's perception of me varies. "Mean" is just one of the many, many things that have been said about me. High maintenant, prude, slutty, whorish, better-than-you arrogant, sweet and kind, smart, dumb ...etc...

I definitely am not, and don't come off as a big shining ball of positive energy n angelic aura. Nope. Laugh easily n giggle a lot though.

I'm in the health industry (mainly mental health and children's ward) and involved with social work. Patients like me, ask for me and generally behave well with me. I'm often asked to take care of the more difficult ones. I attribute it to saturn influence (saturn dominated chart, saturn in the 1st house). In my experiences, it gives a quiet, solid, grounded energy that often is very helpful in dealing with stressed and/or panicked patients. My patience for them is pretty daamn near infinite.

Other people are a different story. Still, while I am not as patient, and not the kind that lights up people's life, generally most are at ease around me. Strangers approach me very often (for better or worse). I conclude that I must not seem that mean. At least not constantly haha.

posted January 21, 2017 02:58 PM            

i do not think it is only the mars-ac although that explains a lot. mars in scopio on the AC can be intimidating. I suspect people may feel a little afraid of apporaching you. if you add your saturn to the mix.... they may feel there is a boiling container ready to explode... and that may feel that way sometimes..