posted January 21, 2017 09:52 PM            

How did you overcome this to have a happy relationship? Is it hard for you to love or be loved?

For people with Venus opposite Saturn in their natal charts, time plays a big role in love and relationships. Saturn things take time, but are built to last. Was it this way for you?

I know someone with this aspect exactly, and they find it almost impossible to give compliments. They are extreme in love, and not in a good way, but in a difficult way. They can be incredibly flip - casual sex that means nothing, be affectionate with people they hardly know or care about... But in relationships they are constantly doubting whether their own love is true or whether the other person's love is true.

In a funny way Venus opposite Saturn for this person meant that they experienced love (venus) when there were a lot of obstacles (saturn). Like a huge distance or language barrier, or someone cheated, or there was a built-in expiry. Is that the only way Saturn opposite Venus can work, if there's an obstacle or blocking already in place?

It seems that if love is healthy and emotionally available and accessible and present, then Venus opposite Saturn won't want it.

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Some people who wrote about Saturn opposite Venus natally said this:

"Part of me likes the idea of having an open-relationship.Rather than risk feeling uneasy about whether or not I will be cheated on, I think that it would just be simpler to treat sex intellectually. Yet the other part of me also knows that I am a very emotional lover, underneath, and I am unconsciously searching for someone to break my hard shell."

"I find that I am completely myself with people that are unavailable. With someone I am really interested in, I am completely controlled and closed down - not helpful! I am attracted to the idea of a part-time relationship - with someone who doesn't live where I live. That way I can let go, but still keep an element of control? I am sure it wouldn't work that way in practice. I feel I have 2 distinct 'states' - either controlled or uncontrolled - and I can choose which one I employ. There are no real shades of grey between the 2 states."

"The challenging side of Saturn is its tendency to restrict, block and test. In a stressful aspect like the opposition (a 180-degree angle), Venus’ needs to express affection and feel attractive and loved are hindered. The opposition aspect especially manifests in relationships, so you may continually confront harsh authority figures who withdraw their approval. Saturn is the archetype of the father — which some astrologers correlate with the father — it is likely that you repeat a rejecting relational pattern that started with him." (If your father was withholding, you are drawn to people who seem familiar, and who also give you the cold shoulder. Venus-Saturn correlates with an attraction to older partners or age differences in relationships or relationships where authority comes into play.)"

"I have Saturn opposing Venus, and my relationships are never. In other words, I never had a relationship and I am 42.. As I write this, my heart is bleeding. I have never been lucky in love, never. It ends before it starts."

posted January 22, 2017 02:03 AM            

you have to use a lot discrimination with venus-saturn before chosing a partner and not let your heart being rule by desire, be patient, leanr to watch carefully your partner before make any commitment or goes further, i will say wait weeks to see who he or she is, no, wait several months, no, sorry, wait many years and live a lot of things with that guy or girl to see who he really is...but there is poeple who manage to keep their shadow for years i know some people....

finally, i don't know what to tell you...proceed with caution etc...as much as you can...

posted January 22, 2017 02:12 AM            

The way I tackle this position is to understand that Saturn needs to first feel "deserving" before giving up the love or feeling it.

Saturn also wants to define the lines that love/pleasure should abound. If not, guilt sets in as an indicator of "excess". As Saturn is also the minimalist.

So in the case of feeling deserving, I notice that when I hold out for a long time on pleasure(Venus) and do eventually "get it", I go all out. Its like I am making love for the very 1st times.

In the case of loving within boundaries, I notice that when I draw up a budget (Saturn)and spend only within that budget(Venus), I feel good.

I also notice that when I get to see my lover/partner 3 times a week or even less, I am more loving than when I see them every day. This is the love restriction part.

Saturn wants "purpose" - even if that purpose is frivolity, it must have its time limit.

So if you have Venus-Saturn conjunct and Venus is the ruler of the 7th(like me), you may see friends, relationships and even family associations as only useful, when there is a "purpose" to them.

You don't do stuff "just because". And when things cease to have a purpose in this area of life that Saturn affects, you cut them off or minimize your involvement with them.

posted January 23, 2017 07:16 PM            

I can see the Venus in Taurus being a generational thing for all Saturn in Scorpio's with Venus opposite Saturn.

I'm interested to hear how this plays out for you with the following Venusian / Taurean ways:

- possessiveness
- food (do you have diet restrictions or weird ways to relate to food as gluttony?)
- touch, affection, massages
- body types that you are attracted to

I've found a pattern of age differences to be true for Saturn opposite Venus.

And for this one person I know with Venus in Taurus in the 9th, and Saturn in Scorpio in the 3rd, love happened long distance with language barriers to overcome. What else do you notice Venus in Tauruses with this aspect?

posted January 25, 2017 03:47 AM            

I found this video very interesting about love vs desire, relationship and responsabilities

Hope it will interest other fellow venus saturn people

posted January 25, 2017 04:09 AM            

do you ever find yourself going back to people from your past? Or the other way around, like people from your past stepping back into your life (at certain transits for instance)?

posted January 25, 2017 05:09 AM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
I have a question for you venus/saturn (conjunction, opposition) people.

do you ever find yourself going back to people from your past? Or the other way around, like people from your past stepping back into your life (at certain transits for instance)?

in this particular case, do you like/prefer such situation?

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Having Saturn opposite Venus implies an almost karmic debt (I have this natally), but when I feel a relationship is over, it is over and I usually don't speak to that person again for many years.

Speaking of transits, I'm going through Saturn return and natal Saturn is in the 1st opposite Venus in 7th, so I'm going through the double whammy of having this natally and the transit.

But I feel I'm leaving the cycle of not feeling loved and confronting my hot and cold aloofness.

They state that love affairs tend to go more smoothly post Saturn return for Venus-Saturn opposition natives.

posted January 26, 2017 08:22 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
I have a question for you venus/saturn (conjunction, opposition) people.

do you ever find yourself going back to people from your past? Or the other way around, like people from your past stepping back into your life (at certain transits for instance)?

in this particular case, do you like/prefer such situation?

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No, not really, once a relationship is finished I take steps to make sure the person don't try returning such as going cold communication wise after agreeing to breakup, blocking numbers or even changing numbers completely. I even block them from my social media accounts. Of course I'm not returning, I'll think about the person but will not reach out. This all happens once the relationship has been severed via some kind of betrayal such as cheating etc, total block of the person from my life happens. So I've had several relationships and I'll be 34 in March. During mercury retrograde I think of my ex love, but thats it. So no exes popping back up for me.

posted January 26, 2017 11:28 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
I have a question for you venus/saturn (conjunction, opposition) people.

do you ever find yourself going back to people from your past? Or the other way around, like people from your past stepping back into your life (at certain transits for instance)?

in this particular case, do you like/prefer such situation?

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I have the conjunction.

Heh there is this song I like. A few lines from it translate roughly to "You pass through my life, don't you remember anything. The days when we still are together, please let them be long. The day when we cease to have each other, please feel the pain".

Quite sentimental, kinda fits how I feel.

Dunno if I ever leave hah. I like them as people, so there is always some affection left. They remain special to me. It doesn't mean I still see them in the same way, however. When it's over, it's over. They have a place in my heart, but my heart is not set on them anymore. If there is badblood or unresolved feelings on their part, I stay away.

Yes I like it. I think this is saturn doing. Over the year I have found that time doesn't really erode my affection, in the same way it does little in healing my pain (I'm talking about pain in in general, not just the kind that comes from inter-personal relationship).

I'm like that with friendship as well. I usually "break up" if they crowd me or interfere too much. But I still often hover in the background.

posted January 28, 2017 02:31 PM            

Personally, I'm not aware of having had old loves come back?

It takes A LOT!!! for someone to get 'cut' from my list. I'm basically a Long-Term kind of friend. I could back away for a bit, but it doesn't mean I rejected outrightly. Just took a perspective-break?

When I love someone, it's like they hold a piece of me for Life.

There CAN be 'the deal-breaker' with me. (It's been a really long time since I thought about anything like that.)

IF that happens, You're definitely OUT of here!, the Saturnine-umpire said! Boundaries are actually necessary, for some people can abuse someone else with a good-hearted and compassionate nature.

When I make a Commitment, I am Loyal to them.... Deal is 'set' in Living-stone. I tend to think of Covenant, rather than temporary contracts... I prize Loyalty. And apologies with a Truly Sincere heart are forgiven liberally.

(music) Rise Up (Andra Day) [4:56] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwgr_IMeEgA

You want to lovingly bring down the walls of a Saturn Scorp opp Venus Taurus (of my type)?

Just Love and Accept them (with Open Heart) UNCONDITIONALLY... Give them the Gift of Time and Patience.

Let her feel her feelings, and express herself.
If you Be There still.... you'll melt down every seeming Wall. You'll see The Best Arise, and you'll receive ALL the Treasures therein.

You want to get into the inner-core world of Saturn opp 'Venus-TAURUS? ... 'Tangibly Hug' her. LOL

Hold and Embrace her, with soft strength. Not a prison-trap, but allow freedom IN it. Let YOUR body become her walls, and you'll feel you are Holding your own Heart submitted inside your ribcage.

(humor)
Oh! And a Box of Chocolates, Glass of Chardonnay goes cool with that too... Don't forget the Cashmere?
*twists a lock of hair*
Afterall, it's almost Valentine's????
(omg, j/k!!!!.... omg, *rolllll* ROFLMAO)

My Venus is OPP Saturn, and the other aspect is
Venus Quintile Uranus Cancer H8

(music) I'll Stand By You (Shakira) [4:12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDrx9KP8a1w

Love the penetrating deep Understanding of my Billy Joel!!!

(music) She's Always A Woman (Billy Joel, Live at Shea Stadium) [3:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjv1gSPktdU

posted January 28, 2017 03:38 PM            

thank you very much for taking time to write about this aspect. Wow! I'd already sensed that venus/saturn people love the hardest and the most sincerely; especially with your Taurus venus, it must be so pure and tender

So much beautiful feelings in one human heart indeed!

posted December 28, 2022 02:20 PM            

to find love seems like a neverending puzzle that i'm trying to finish, but the pieces are missing. i give too much of myself or not at all, and i usually give my all to the wrong people.

i realized my self worth was very low just recently. i was shocked by the realization. and whenever i fall in love, it's like the voice in my head is telling me "nope. don't get your hopes up. there's no love for you. anyone else can have it, but not you. don't even bother. something will go wrong before you even know it and you'll be alone all over again."

it's a hell of an aspect to have.

posted December 28, 2022 09:13 PM            

I'm 30 and turning 31 next year, currently going through my Saturn Return. I had 2 serious relationships and met one guy during Saturn return, really like this guy and thought he was the one, turned out he didn't want something exclusive.

My past experiences of love have never been good. I didn't know what was wrong until now. I used to ask myself why do I only meet sh-itty people. And the answer is because I never set boundaries, I overlooked all the red flags, I was the one who allowed them in my life. I was the one who allowed them to mistreat me. I allowed them in just because I like them, I just followed my heart. Lessons learned and never again!

Personally, I take love very seriously, I don't talk or flirt with anyone unless I like them and want something serious with them. I don't do casual stuffs. I am a giver, will do and give anything I can for someone I love, but be careful cause some people will not care how nice you are they just here to take advantage of you.