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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted January 24, 2017 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Capricorn Sun conjunct Neptune. So very much like Piscean Capricorn, a watered down one

Would like to know if the square does the same to Sun. For example, if you have Sun square Saturn, do you feel like Capricorn a bit? Thanks

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posted January 24, 2017 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Usually conjunctions are the energies that make the planet's energy most altered. Having Sun conjunct Neptune would be a more raw influence of Neptunian energy than Sun square Neptune, but they still can be felt.

You can feel similar to a sign placement but it will not be the same as actually being that sign placement. A double dose though would be a sign placement conjunct the ruler of that sign. For example, I have Sun in Aquarius conjunct Uranus in Aquarius, so I am very Aquarian in that regard. However, my Mercury makes an exact conjunction to Neptune. It has that Aquarian expression but is significantly different thanks to Neptune. Kind of like a Pisces Mercury, but not the same.

The sign placement is how that planet functions, the house is how it's expressed, and the aspects are how that expression is modified. It's more complicated than that of course, but that's just a general discriptor for how I see it.

It's interesting because with my Moon in the 8th house and with an exact opposition to Pluto, it was no wonder why I felt like such a Scorpio Moon. I can see how the Gemini Moon manifests, but it wasn't easy to pick up on thanks to all that Pluto on my Moon.
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posted January 24, 2017 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun square Saturn.
Hmm.. Maybe I do behave like one in real life. Didn't think about it that way before.

Now that you mention it - lemme think about the "Saturnian" characteristics that modify the flavour of my Sun.
I'm a lot more taciturn then your average Libra. The Saturn square adds a lot of seriousness, and insecurity too. But the upshot is that it makes one responsible - not prone to rash decisions. Restrained expression of self, particularly "in company". Tend to be the "grownup" of the group.

Downside, I might take things (such as sitcoms that are meant to be fun) a tad too seriously and be horrified at them. Although this might be because of my other placements too, dunno.

ETA: The square is more dynamic though. You can feel it as an active influence trying to change the normal expression of your sun. With the conjunction, those energies blend together.

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posted January 24, 2017 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun conjunct Saturn , square Pluto and Jupiter

I act old but don't look like it
Sun in Pisces helps deliver my creativity into responsibilities/career.

Sun square Pluto, Im brooding , but lively (Jupiter)

Sun trine ASC makes me popular and stand out because people can "see" my spiritual light (Sun) physically (ASC)

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posted January 25, 2017 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Planets in aspect to the Sun influence the Sun. But it is the nature of the "influence" that differentiates the experience of each.

Sun- Neptune conjunct people often acquiesce to something or are more willing to just accept things as they are. They don't want to swim upstream

There is a strong "quietness" and unobtrusiveness that is present in many of them- especially when Neptune aspects the Asc by close proximity.

The square aspect is resistance. These people are very much the "blind faith" type.

They can be quick to worship someone and believe in them so greatly(especially when the Sun rules the 7th or is placed there) that when this person eventually show feet of clay, devastation is monumental and they feel betrayed.

The square has a hard time going with the flow and can refuse to accept that they were "mistaken". They are more ready to accept that they were "deceived" or "fooled"- making the other person the offender.

The opposition aspect of Neptune swings back and forth. Sometimes sobriety comes along and then they find themselves knee deep in neverland again.

This person may seem totally capable on one day and very much well put together. But then in the same week(even day),feel like they are falling apart.

On the one hand there is belief in something greater protecting them whilst on the other hand, there is the ever present feeling/nuances of life all around them that is harsh and unpleasant.

There is a tendency to not be able to see grey areas and want to accept the "absolute" of something-which can often inspire unwarranted fears and phobias in many.

But it must be borne in mind that Sun/Neptune may experience a "wipe out" in their ego in a eerily similar way that Sun/Neptune square and opposition do.

So it is likely that the attraction to each other will be very great indeed as they will feel resonance and much in common with each other.

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posted January 28, 2017 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, the square from sun to saturn gives same saturnian flavor. all people i have met with aspect to saturn (regardless it is square, trine, conjunction) are saturnian. no exeption.. lol

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posted January 28, 2017 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The square makes for a STRUGGLE. Hence, the square is very different than the trine. With certain planets, the conjunction is an easy aspect. With others, it is not. With Saturn, the conjunction is a struggle but the square can be more of a "buried" kind of struggle, like harder to access, my Friend.

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posted January 28, 2017 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
For example, if you have Sun square Saturn, do you feel like Capricorn a bit? Thanks

I'm a mutt. Capricorn sun:

sextile Pisces moon (less than 2° orb)
novile Sag Venus (less than 1°)
quincunx Gem Mars (0.14°)
square Aries Jupiter (0.14°)
quindecile Leo Saturn (0.12°) and they're in mutual reception
square Libra Pluto (4°)
trine/sextile Taurus/Scorpio nodes (4°)

My brother says I have the unique ability to seem like I am coming from all directions at once; he likens it to surround sound. I have a splash chart, so that just figures.

But I do seem like a Capricorn, mainly.

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posted January 28, 2017 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^Ain't that the truth.

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yes, the square from sun to saturn gives same saturnian flavor. all people i have met with aspect to saturn (regardless it is square, trine, conjunction) are saturnian. no exeption.. lol

NS,

Surely the effects will vary depending on the aspect. No? Eg. Trine/Sextile will exhibit the more healthy side of Saturn. While the hard aspects will show the not so fun side.

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posted January 28, 2017 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
^^Ain't that the truth.

NS,

Surely the effects will vary depending on the aspect. No? Eg. Trine/Sextile will exhibit the more healthy side of Saturn. While the hard aspects will show the not so fun side.


well to be honest, I have not seen that. I know that the book says that sextile and trine are easier and square and opposition and sometimes conjunction are hard aspects. I guess everybody is familiar with the basics, but what I have observed and also I was reinforced in my belief by Liz Greene is that certain planets together no matter the aspect are less friendly than other. sun saturn is one of these aspects that are not easy to deal with no matter if you is in sextile or trine. The sun goes after an ideal or potential inside that needs to develop throughout this lifetime and saturn is not very friendly with that. Saturns aspecting the sun is telling that little sunny that his dreams needs to be developed within a frame called limited reality in the saturnian-earthy way. how easy is for a person to go along that influence will depend more on the rest of the chart more than the fact that the aspect is sextile or square. a person with strong cappricorn will have a tendency to submit the sun to saturn rule and it is not easy for them to develop their uniqueness. a strong aries-leo will try to rebel and always against a wall until they learn how to use saturn to their own solar purpose...

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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted January 28, 2017 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for all your answers guys.

I can't know what it's like because I don't have anything squaring my Sun but I think there's something in it. My ex has his Leo Sun square Pluto and yes, I can see the intense Scorpionic Leo in him. But yeah, it's probably nothing like conjunction. My Sun Neptune conjunction is attracting a lot of people with Pisces in their chart into my life. That must be because they must sense some Pisces in me as well (by placements I only have Mars in Pisces).

Faith,

on this forum you come across as Libra to me (all the good traits of Libra!) Not like Capricorn at all. But that's just internet.

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